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dhphoto Offline Image Upload: Off 20D/400D or compact ? Guys, I'm looking for a really compact and light combo for travelling (as I'm right up against it weight-of-hand-luggage wise) Up till now I've been using my 20D with a 24-85 as a travel kit (although I am a pro I'm not too bothered about ultimate quality here, I can shoot RAW and sharpen in PP) but it is quite a heavy combo for what it is - 8 meg and a short zoom Would I be better off with a 400D/XTi with a different lens? In which case which lens? Or perhaps I should look at a compact digicam, is there one out there that comes close to a basic dslr these days? Thanks David Jan 10, 2007 at 02:39 PM

cogitech Online Buy and Sell: On 20D/400D or compact ? G7 ? http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canong7/ Although, upon reading the review I see that the G6 might be a better choice. What about an M8 ? Jan 10, 2007 at 02:43 PM

gfiksel Offline Image Upload: On 20D/400D or compact ? cogitech wrote: G7 ? http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canong7/ Although, upon reading the review I see that the G6 might be a better choice. What about an M8 ? Agree, G6 is a great camera. I plan to own it until it falls apart. It has about the same range as the 24-85 on a crop camera. Jan 10, 2007 at 02:55 PM

dhphoto Offline Image Upload: Off 20D/400D or compact ? gfiksel wrote: cogitech wrote: G7 ? http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canong7/ Although, upon reading the review I see that the G6 might be a better choice. What about an M8 ? Agree, G6 is a great camera. I plan to own it until it falls apart. It has about the same range as the 24-85 on a crop camera. G6 isn't available new now is it? I note the G7 doesn't have RAW, I'm a believer that I can correct a little for the size of the sensor in RAW rather better than without RAW Is the G6 as fast in operation as the G7? David Jan 10, 2007 at 03:18 PM

gfiksel Offline Image Upload: On 20D/400D or compact ? dhphoto wrote: G6 isn't available new now is it? I note the G7 doesn't have RAW, I'm a believer that I can correct a little for the size of the sensor in RAW rather better than without RAW Is the G6 as fast in operation as the G7? David G6 is still available from ebay. It has RAW, very sharp f/2 lens, articulated screen and remote contral. Uses the same battery as 20D/30D/5D and CF flashes. I don't think it is as fast as G7 and it has DIGIC I processor. However, it's fast enough and images developed in RAW are very decent. Great travel camera. Jan 10, 2007 at 03:44 PM

gfiksel Offline Image Upload: On 20D/400D or compact ? Here is when a SLR would be indeed too bulky and heavy Jan 10, 2007 at 03:45 PM

dhphoto Offline Image Upload: Off 20D/400D or compact ? Thanks, it seems to be pretty much what I'm looking for. I'm really not happy buying a digicam without RAW. Anyone want to sell me one? (I've put a wtb on the buy&sell board) David Jan 10, 2007 at 03:52 PM

nathanlake Offline Image Upload: On 20D/400D or compact ? dhphoto wrote: Guys, I'm looking for a really compact and light combo for travelling (as I'm right up against it weight-of-hand-luggage wise) Up till now I've been using my 20D with a 24-85 as a travel kit (although I am a pro I'm not too bothered about ultimate quality here, I can shoot RAW and sharpen in PP) but it is quite a heavy combo for what it is - 8 meg and a short zoom Would I be better off with a 400D/XTi with a different lens? In which case which lens? Or perhaps I should look at a compact digicam, is there one out there that comes close to a basic dslr these days? Thanks David If you don't mind moving away from Canon, I might suggest some of the Panasonic digicams. They are using some really nice Zeiss lenses now and I have been impressed. Jan 10, 2007 at 04:20 PM

dhphoto Offline Image Upload: Off 20D/400D or compact ? nathanlake wrote: If you don't mind moving away from Canon, I might suggest some of the Panasonic digicams. They are using some really nice Zeiss lenses now and I have been impressed. Don't mind at all but RAW? David Jan 10, 2007 at 04:26 PM

Nill Toulme Offline Buy and Sell: On 20D/400D or compact ? The 400D is usefully smaller and lighter (and quieter) than the 20D. I traded out for exactly those reasons. I use the 17-85 IS and 70-300 IS as my travel kit with it, but for something even smaller and lighter I would go (and in fact did for a while, quite happily) with the Sigma 18-125 or 18-200. Note that Sigma has announced an OS (that's what they call IS) version of the 18-200, but no news on when it will actually become available. There's no digicam that will come anywhere close to the low light performance of the 400D. Nill ~~ www.toulme.net Jan 10, 2007 at 04:43 PM

dhphoto Offline Image Upload: Off 20D/400D or compact ? Nill Toulme wrote: The 400D is usefully smaller and lighter (and quieter) than the 20D. I traded out for exactly those reasons. I use the 17-85 IS and 70-300 IS as my travel kit with it, but for something even smaller and lighter I would go (and in fact did for a while, quite happily) with the Sigma 18-125 or 18-200. Note that Sigma has announced an OS (that's what they call IS) version of the 18-200, but no news on when it will actually become available. There's no digicam that will come anywhere close to the low light performance of the 400D. Nill ~~ www.toulme.net Thats the thing really, as I'm so used to dslr's I'm rather loathe to be without one. I had a 350D/XT for a bit last year and I thought it was really quite good except I didn't like the focusing, which I understand to have been improved on the 400D. The IQ on the 350D was on a par with all my other 8 meg cams no question and I do have all the lenses so I would only need the body. However the G6 is a lot smaller and lighter even than a 400D and my problem is my new (lovely) HP laptop is much bigger than my old one and eating up my cabin baggage allowance, hence the problem. I do have an S70 (which of course has RAW), but I just find it too small and fiddly for my old eyes. It takes good shots but I'm not getting on well with it, so that'll go David Jan 10, 2007 at 05:15 PM

Nill Toulme Offline Buy and Sell: On 20D/400D or compact ? Smaller maybe, but how much lighter? I was astonished at the weight of the G6 when I picked one up in a store. Life is compromise. Sometimes you just have to make up your mind. ;-) Would a Leica M8 fill the bill? Nill ~~ www.toulme.net Jan 10, 2007 at 05:43 PM

gfiksel Offline Image Upload: On 20D/400D or compact ? Nill Toulme wrote: Smaller maybe, but how much lighter? I was astonished at the weight of the G6 when I picked one up in a store. Life is compromise. Sometimes you just have to make up your mind. ;-) Would a Leica M8 fill the bill? Nill ~~ www.toulme.net G6 ---- 467g (incl batt) 400D+sigma 18-125 = 556g + 385 g = 941 g. Jan 10, 2007 at 05:59 PM

dhphoto Offline Image Upload: Off 20D/400D or compact ? Nill Toulme wrote: Would a Leica M8 fill the bill? I'm sure they are very nice, but too expensive and no short zoom (I've never been much of a Leica fan really) David Jan 10, 2007 at 06:11 PM

Nill Toulme Offline Buy and Sell: On 20D/400D or compact ? Well FWIW, I continue to be very happy indeed with the 400D and 17-85 IS as a travel/knockaround combo. Nill ~~ www.toulme.net Jan 10, 2007 at 06:15 PM

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