dalegaspi wrote: 1bwana1 wrote:
Just for the sake of the discussion, no lense could have added as much to the shaping of this image as five minutes of dodging and burning. Just put them side by side and compare.
i'm sorry..what?
that's not dodging and burning; that's literally applying a new light source that wasn't there. was this edited with AI with a prompt "add side lighting on camera right and reflector on camera left"?
Ansel Adams will not approve.
Here are a couple of Adams direct quotes for you to think about.
“Dodging and burning are steps to take care of mistakes God made in establishing tonal relationships.”
“In the darkroom, I can experiment, enhance, embellish.”
Adams also often wrote about his view that photography is a creative art, not merely a means of communicating reality.
He absolutely added light in many of his images. In Moonrise, Hernandez, New Mexico the entire city was in shadow in the negative. In the finished print it was bathed in light that Adams added.
Yes, I created the effects of three strobes that were not there. But my example was not made to suggest a proper way to edit. It was only to show that in my opinion the impact of light has a bigger potential in creating depth in an image . Possibly more that the impact of the different lenses being discussed.
No lens would have added more perception of depth to that flat lit images as adding light did. That was the point, nothing more.
dalegaspi wrote: 1bwana1 wrote:
Just for the sake of the discussion, no lense could have added as much to the shaping of this image as five minutes of dodging and burning. Just put them side by side and compare.
i'm sorry..what?
that's not dodging and burning; that's literally applying a new light source that wasn't there. was this edited with AI with a prompt "add side lighting on camera right and reflector on camera left"?
Ansel Adams will not approve.
Here are a couple of Adams direct quotes for you to think about.
“Dodging and burning are steps to take care of mistakes God made in establishing tonal relationships.”
“In the darkroom, I can experiment, enhance, embellish.”
Adams also often wrote about his view that photography is a creative art, not merely a means of communicating reality.
He absolutely added light in many of his images. In Moonrise, Hernandez, New Mexico the entire city was in shadow in the negative. In the finished print it was bathed in light that Adams added.
Yes, I created the effects of three strobes that were not there. But my example was not made to suggest a proper way to edit. It was only to show that in my opinion the impact of light has a bigger potential in creating depth in an image . Possibly more that the impact of the different lenses being discussed. Nothing more.
dalegaspi wrote: 1bwana1 wrote:
Just for the sake of the discussion, no lense could have added as much to the shaping of this image as five minutes of dodging and burning. Just put them side by side and compare.
i'm sorry..what?
that's not dodging and burning; that's literally applying a new light source that wasn't there. was this edited with AI with a prompt "add side lighting on camera right and reflector on camera left"?
Ansel Adams will not approve.
Here are a couple of Adams direct quotes for you to think about.
“Dodging and burning are steps to take care of mistakes God made in establishing tonal relationships.”
“In the darkroom, I can experiment, enhance, embellish.”
He absolutely added light in many of his images. In Moonrise, Hernandez, New Mexico the entire city was in shadow in the negative. In the finished print it was bathed in light that Adams added.
Yes, I created the effects of three strobes that were not there. But my example was not made to suggest a proper way to edit. It was only to show that in my opinion the impact of light has a bigger potential in creating depth in an image . Possibly more that the impact of the different lenses being discussed. Nothing more.
Nov 03, 2026 at 06:24 AM
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