Re: Official: Sony A7C II, A7CR and FE 16-35mm f/2.8 GM II
JustAnother wrote: joychris wrote:
They both use the same shutter. EFCS off is just the electronic shutter.
Chris
I thought the same, but the full specs of the shutter for the A7CR and A7CII are different, with the A7CR matching those of the A7RV or A7IV, and the A7CII matching the A7C.
A7CR and A7CR:
Shutter Type: Mechanical shutter / Electronic shutter
Electronic Front Curtain Shutter: Yes (ON/OFF)
A7C and A7CII
Shutter Type: Mechanical shutter / Electronic shutter
Electronic Front Curtain Shutter: Yes
The full electronic shutter includes an EFCS, so I don't think that functionality is called EFCS off. For example, in the A7C manual you have the option of just select a silent shutter (i.e. full electronic). But in the E7RV you have a separate option to turn EFCS on-off. I think this matches the specs sheet for the A7CR
I hope you are correct as previously when this was brought up here on FM about over a week ago, it was posted that the US specs saying it had a mechanical shutter and EVCS that could be turned On/Off were an incorrect listing, and Sony Asia's website did not say this. But I just went to the Sony Asia website (I am in Thailand right now) and it now matches what you posted per below. Very Confusing!!
Sony Asia Website Copy & Paste on Sept 9 5:21 PM (GMT +7)
A7CR Shutter
SHUTTER TYPE
Mechanical shutter / Electronic shutter
SHUTTER SPEED
Still images (Mechanical shutter): 1/4000 to 30 s, Bulb, Still images (Electronic shutter): 1/8000 to 30 s, Movies: 1/8000 to 1 s
FLASH SYNC. SPEED
1/160 s (35mm full frame), 1/200 s (APS-C)
ELECTRONIC FRONT CURTAIN SHUTTER
Yes (ON/OFF)
Below is the A7RV shutter listing from the same Sony Asia website, you will notice that that the specific shutter type is indicated and the A7CR type is not, it just says "Mechanical shutter / Electronic shutter".
A7RV Shutter TYPE
Electronically-controlled, vertical-traverse, focal-plane type
SHUTTER TYPE
Mechanical shutter / Electronic shutter
SHUTTER SPEED
Still images: 1/8000 to 30 s, Bulb, Movies (NTSC mode): 1/8000 to 1/4 (1/3 steps), up to 1/60 in AUTO mode (up to 1/30 in Auto slow shutter mode), Movies (PAL mode): 1/8000 to 1/4 (1/3 steps), up to 1/50 in AUTO mode (up to 1/25 in Auto slow shutter mode)
FLASH SYNC. SPEED
1/250 s (35 mm full frame), 1/320 s (APS-C)
ELECTRONIC FRONT CURTAIN SHUTTER
Yes (ON/OFF)
SILENT SHOOTING
Yes (ON/OFF)
Re: Official: Sony A7C II, A7CR and FE 16-35mm f/2.8 GM II
JustAnother wrote: joychris wrote:
They both use the same shutter. EFCS off is just the electronic shutter.
Chris
I thought the same, but the full specs of the shutter for the A7CR and A7CII are different, with the A7CR matching those of the A7RV or A7IV, and the A7CII matching the A7C.
A7CR and A7CR:
Shutter Type: Mechanical shutter / Electronic shutter
Electronic Front Curtain Shutter: Yes (ON/OFF)
A7C and A7CII
Shutter Type: Mechanical shutter / Electronic shutter
Electronic Front Curtain Shutter: Yes
The full electronic shutter includes an EFCS, so I don't think that functionality is called EFCS off. For example, in the A7C manual you have the option of just select a silent shutter (i.e. full electronic). But in the E7RV you have a separate option to turn EFCS on-off. I think this matches the specs sheet for the A7CR
I hope you are correct as previously when this was brought up here on FM about over a week ago, it was posted that the US specs saying it had a mechanical shutter and EVCS that could be turned On/Off were an incorrect listing, and Sony Asia's website did not say this. But I just went to the Sony Asia website (I am in Thailand right now) and it now matches what you posted per below. Very Confusing!!
Sony Asia Website Copy & Paste on Sept 9 5:21 PM (GMT +7)
A7CR Shutter
SHUTTER TYPE
Mechanical shutter / Electronic shutter
SHUTTER SPEED
Still images (Mechanical shutter): 1/4000 to 30 s, Bulb, Still images (Electronic shutter): 1/8000 to 30 s, Movies: 1/8000 to 1 s
FLASH SYNC. SPEED
1/160 s (35mm full frame), 1/200 s (APS-C)
ELECTRONIC FRONT CURTAIN SHUTTER
Yes (ON/OFF)
Sep 06, 2023 at 05:27 AM
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