fredmiranda.com
Login
Edit history

Official: Sony A7C II, A7CR and FE 16-35mm f/2.8 GM II

Message #16328432 by GHarris · 2 earlier versions stored · newest first

Back to the post
Current versionSaved Aug 29, 2023 at 11:34 AMTitle changed
Official: Sony A7C II, A7CR and FE 16-35mm f/2.8 GM II
GMPhotography wrote:
Well it’s other things as well that count. I’m nervous about no mechanical shutter. I shoot a lot of flash/LED light and fluorescent stuff. Not sure if there is a drop off on that. Getting rid of my A7RV is not making sense now.

Sometimes going smaller may not add up


I think there is a mechanical shutter. Just not a "full mechanical" shutter.

i.e. you can either use full-electronic shutter, with weird high-speed motion effects and lighting banding issues,

OR "electronic front curtain shutter" (EFCS) which is mechanical but with mildly degraded bokeh and potentially weird vignetting effects at high shutter speeds. It's not an issue for flash shooting or indoor LED lighting shooting - strobes still work the same. It's an issue (of sorts) for outdoor natural-light shooting in plenty of light where the shutter speeds go very high.

I hope I've understood correctly. Happy to be corrected.

EDIT: Oh, and I assume the maximum shutter speed on EFCS is still only 1/4000th, rather than 1/8000 on some models' mech shutters, or 1/32000 on stacked sensor electronic models like the a9?

Sony have made a nice overall package of improvements with these new A7C models. I am curious why they don't offer a fully-full-actually-full mechanical shutter, though. On the whole, they're a very good product. Things like the single card slot are, I think, how they ought to be in an A7C - an all-out-size-reduction choice. For full-pro oriented features, get the larger bodies. They've improved the weakest points on the a7C without breaking what makes the A7C what it uniquely is.
Version 2Saved Aug 29, 2023 at 11:26 AM
Re: Official: Sony A7C II, A7CR and FE 16-35mm f/2.8 GM II
GMPhotography wrote:
Well it’s other things as well that count. I’m nervous about no mechanical shutter. I shoot a lot of flash/LED light and fluorescent stuff. Not sure if there is a drop off on that. Getting rid of my A7RV is not making sense now.

Sometimes going smaller may not add up


I think there is a mechanical shutter. Just not a "full mechanical" shutter.

i.e. you can either use full-electronic shutter, with weird high-speed motion effects and lighting banding issues,

OR "electronic front curtain shutter" (EFCS) which is mechanical but with mildly degraded bokeh and potentially weird vignetting effects at high shutter speeds. It's not an issue for flash shooting or indoor LED lighting shooting - strobes still work the same. It's an issue (of sorts) for outdoor natural-light shooting in plenty of light where the shutter speeds go very high.

I hope I've understood correctly. Happy to be corrected.

Sony have made a nice overall package of improvements with these new A7C models. I am curious why they don't offer a fully-full-actually-full mechanical shutter, though. On the whole, they're a very good product. Things like the single card slot are, I think, how they ought to be in an A7C - an all-out-size-reduction choice. For full-pro oriented features, get the larger bodies. They've improved the weakest points on the a7C without breaking what makes the A7C what it uniquely is.
Original postPosted Aug 29, 2023 at 11:24 AM
Re: Official: Sony A7C II, A7CR and FE 16-35mm f/2.8 GM II
GMPhotography wrote:
Well it’s other things as well that count. I’m nervous about no mechanical shutter. I shoot a lot of flash/LED light and fluorescent stuff. Not sure if there is a drop off on that. Getting rid of my A7RV is not making sense now.

Sometimes going smaller may not add up


I think there is a mechanical shutter. Just not a "full mechanical" shutter.

i.e. you can either use full-electronic shutter, with weird high-speed motion effects and lighting banding issues,

OR "electronic front curtain shutter" (EFCS) which is mechanical but with mildly degraded bokeh and potentially weird vignetting effects at high shutter speeds. It's not an issue for flash shooting or indoor LED lighting shooting - strobes still work the same. It's an issue (of sorts) for outdoor natural-light shooting in plenty of light where the shutter speeds go very high.

I hope I've understood correctly. Happy to be corrected.

Sony have made a nice overall package of improvements with these new A7Cs. I am curious why they don't offer a fully-full-actually-full mechanical shutter, though.

Back to the post

Switch to mobile view