highdesertmesa wrote: retrofocus wrote: highdesertmesa wrote: retrofocus wrote: highdesertmesa wrote:
I think it may be more likely we get a small, rangefinder-style L-mount before we get an EVF-M. It might end up being a bit M5-ish versus the M9/10/11, but I would be all-in for that. I don't really care if it has the SL top dials or the full-analog M dials, but I think the former would help it not compete against the M11.
For L-mount speaks Leica's commitment to L-mount. But such hybrid EVF-based camera would be the death of the SL series - it might be possible if Leica slops the SL like they did in the past with the R-series (and also TL). The only way out for Leica to continue with the SL but also offer a smaller EVF based exchangeable mount camera is to go with M-mount lenses. If a user wants AF or video, this has to be SL or Leica Q.
Are we both drinking tonight? I can't understand this post, and I don't think it's just the tequila
Thanks for sharing this very insightful post.
What else am I to make of a sentence like, "For L-mount speaks Leica's commitment to L-mount"? That makes no sense. Can you instead clarify what you're trying to say?
I'm not understanding why you're calling what I described a "hybrid EVF-based camera". And what is an "exchangeable mount camera"? I said Leica should make a rangefinder-style L-mount camera. That's not a hybrid of anything. It's an SL with a smaller EVF on the left and no grip. Many manufacturers are adding a smaller body option in their lineup to no detriment of the rest of their model sales (example: GFX 50S and the rangefinder-style 50R coexisted). Did you think I was saying "rangefinder hybrid" like the X100 series instead of what I said, which is "rangefinder-style", which means a regular EVF in a rangefinder placement on the left?
To get to what everyone else is saying about the SL series doom and gloom: The only reason (other than the obvious high prices) the SL2/S sucks is because of the CDAF, which means terrible continuous AF and tracking. Now that Panasonic has demonstrated PDAF at the same level as the other market players, the SL3 will at least be able to keep up. Hopefully they will also add an articulating rear screen.
Please read my earlier comment in this thread where I defined what I refer to as EVF-based hybrid camera. Name it Leica M with EVF instead of OVF-based rangefinder or Leica Q with exchangeable mount - IMO preferably M-mount.
What I refer to "For L-mount speaks Leica's commitment to L-mount" is that Dr. Kaufmann expressed in an interview that Leica is committed to the L-mount. This means that at least under his leadership it is less likely that Leica changes course and deserts the L-mount. It is open if Leica will use the L-mount for all new cameras in the future other than the M-cameras.
Leica SL is a lackluster due to its market pricing compared to other available MLCs out there and its bulky size which is less attractive for many M shooters. The SL can be an addition for a very different need where the M cameras are no fit: for AF and video stuff. Personally I am not interested in either and therefore have zero interest in the L-mount (don't even follow the lens options there etc). The above mentioned EVF-based hybrid M camera would instead fit the need for small size manual lenses and smaller camera size. Leica Q comes closest here - but its lens is not exchangeable (all mentioned/discussed in earlier posts here)
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