I also think the m12, or m13 will have a built in EVF. Then everyone will say the m11 was the last true M. 😂
I don't think this will happen. Leica will not abandon digital rangefinder cameras. The hybrid EVF-based M will be in parallel to the existing rangefinder M series. Biggest threat of such hybrid EVF-based M is the Q-series with fixed lens, but it might also compete in-house with the traditional M-series. But I don't think Leica can drag their feet further to avoid making such EVF-based camera to stay competitive in the market.
I think an EVF Leica is becoming less likely as time goes on. The main problem is that Leica has some pretty stiff competition for such a camera from Sony and now Nikon. With CV making a pretty wide set of quality manual focus lenses for Sony and looking like they are going to do so for Nikon those cameras provide pretty compelling options for people who want an EVF/manual focus combination. If that is what you want very soon the question will become what Leica can provide that Sony or Nikon cannot.
Nikon I think is going to provide an especially compelling alternative to a Leica EVF based camera. If Voigtlander builds a nice set of manual focus lenses for Nikon Z mount, which it looks like they will, that together with some interesting Chinese manual focus lenses, and a huge catalog of Nikon manual focus lenses will make Nikon a pretty compelling option for shooters who want an EVF and manual focus lenses. Nikon will also have the advantage that Voigtlander lenses and many of the Nikon manual focus lenses will have a extra focus mode with a box at the focus point that turns from red to green when what is on that focus point is in focus. I find this focus aid to be among the best for manual focus on an EVF camera. Nikon may even build a FF camera geared toward manual focus lenses (the Zfc is almost this type of camera but is APS-C). Together these developments suggest that Nikon can provide a pretty compelling alternative to a Leica EVF manual focus camera. I think enough of an alternative, that I don't think Leica will want to compete.
In contrast, a Leica M rangefinder really has no competition. If you want such a camera Leica is really your only choice and this puts Leica M cameras and lenses in a special place that can easily maintained without having to compete. I can't see why Leica would want to start what is fairly significant change only to face pretty stiff competition.
I also think the m12, or m13 will have a built in EVF. Then everyone will say the m11 was the last true M. 😂
I don't think this will happen. Leica will not abandon digital rangefinder cameras. The hybrid EVF-based M will be in parallel to the existing rangefinder M series. Biggest threat of such hybrid EVF-based M is the Q-series with fixed lens, but it might also compete in-house with the traditional M-series. But I don't think Leica can drag their feet further to avoid making such EVF-based camera to stay competitive in the market.
I think an EVF Leica is becoming less likely as time goes on. The main problem is that Leica has some pretty stiff competition for such a camera from Sony and now Nikon. With CV making a pretty wide set of quality manual focus lenses for Sony and looking like they are going to do so for Nikon those cameras provide pretty compelling options for people who want an EVF/manual focus combination. If that is what you want very soon the question will become what Leica can provide that Sony or Nikon cannot.
Nikon I think is going to provide an especially compelling alternative to a Leica EVF based camera. If Voigtlander builds a nice set of manual focus lenses for Nikon Z mount, which it looks like they will, that together with some interesting Chinese manual focus lenses, and a huge catalog of Nikon manual focus lenses will make Nikon a pretty compelling option for shooters who want an EVF and manual focus lenses. Nikon will also have the advantage that Voigtlander lenses and many of the Nikon manual focus lenses will have a extra focus mode with a box at the focus point that turns from red to green when what is on that focus point is in focus. I find this focus aid to be among the best for manual focus on an EVF camera. Nikon may even build a FF camera geared toward manual focus lenses (the Zfc is almost this type of camera but is APS-C). Together these developments suggest that Nikon can provide a pretty compelling alternative to a Leica EVF manual focus camera. I think enough of an alternative, that I don't think Leica will want to compete.
In contrast, a Leica M rangefinder really has no competition. If you want such a camera Leica is really your only choice and this put Leica M cameras and lenses in a special place that can easily maintained without having to compete. I can't see why Leica would want to start what is fairly significant change only to face pretty stiff competition.
Jan 25, 2023 at 06:07 PM
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