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Phillip Reeve wrote:
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saxguy wroteThis is a great test, thanks!

I feel kind of bad for you...

...you're going to have to repeat it in a couple of weeks when the 35 1.4 GM is released
Lol, no, go away!

I am only interested in doing a GM 35/35i/RX1/GF 45/2.8 comparison. And I don’t own a GFX yet, so probably not even close.

At this point, I have tested every 35mm option that is viable and interesting to my preferences!

Though I would like to get my hands on a R 35 Summicron after Steve mentioned it, and it’s been of loose interest to me for years.
How would the CV 1.2/35 fit into the picture in your experience?

In my experience bokeh deteriorates towards the corners at longer distances but I would rate it as smoother than any 35mm I have reviewed (which excludes the RX1 and Bigma f/1.2).


My experience mirrors yours on the CV 35/1.2iii corners. Fred found that the VM 35/1.2v3 performed quite well on either sensor (stock or leica) by design, but even if you look at the central portions, I found the CV bokeh and rendering good, but not as good as the 31 ltd, but largely comparable. Near bokeh I liked the CV 35/1.2iii (it's longer and seem to have relatively fast-focus fall off for more separation and softer abstraction of OOF whereas the 31 ltd is appreciably wider a hair harsher) but mid and distance I prefer the 31 ltd. Despite some swirl, I think the new 35i is better than both the 31tld and CV 35/1i2iii for smooth rendering. All easily fall short of RX1 to my eyes. The attraction of the CV 35/1.2iii is pleasant draw, small size, excellent ergo, moderate price and great technical IQ slightly stopped down. The Pentax has better rendering and gorgeous colors/contrast, but it's bigger, slower has worst flare resistance and slightly worse CA but also has very strong IQ stopped down. So, it's much of a portrait, near focus lens but can do well in most applications, not unlike the CV 35 1.2 as well. It really gets down to a preferences between those two--I really like the files from the 31 better--there's some magic in it and prefer the wider FL, so sold my CV 35/1.2iii

In a blind test, a great majority (myself included) preferred the RX1 most, then the 31 limited as an easy second, then the CV 35/1.2iii as a distant 3rd when all shot at comparable apertures for bokeh. See this: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1652099/1

For mid-distance bokeh and transition, see this:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1639692/4



Feb 02, 2021 at 05:36 PM
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35mm blind test p.2


Phillip Reeve wrote:
nehemiahphoto wrote
saxguy wroteThis is a great test, thanks!

I feel kind of bad for you...

...you're going to have to repeat it in a couple of weeks when the 35 1.4 GM is released
Lol, no, go away!

I am only interested in doing a GM 35/35i/RX1/GF 45/2.8 comparison. And I don’t own a GFX yet, so probably not even close.

At this point, I have tested every 35mm option that is viable and interesting to my preferences!

Though I would like to get my hands on a R 35 Summicron after Steve mentioned it, and it’s been of loose interest to me for years.
How would the CV 1.2/35 fit into the picture in your experience?

In my experience bokeh deteriorates towards the corners at longer distances but I would rate it as smoother than any 35mm I have reviewed (which excludes the RX1 and Bigma f/1.2).


My experience mirrors yours on the CV 35/1.2iii corners. Fred found that the VM 35/1.2v3 performed quite well on either sensor (stock or leica) by design, but even if you look at the central portions, I found the CV bokeh and rendering good, but not as good as the 31 ltd, but largely comparable. Near bokeh I liked the CV 35/1.2iii (it's longer and seem to have relatively fast-focus fall off for more separation and softer abstraction of OOF whereas the 31 ltd is appreciably wider a hair harsher) but mid and distance I prefer the 31 ltd. Despite some swirl, I think the new 35i is better than both the 31tld and CV 35/1i2iii for smooth rendering. All easily fall short of RX1 to my eyes. The attraction of the CV 35/1.2iii is pleasant draw, small size, excellent ergo, moderate price and great technical IQ slightly stopped down. The Pentax has better rendering and gorgeous colors/contrast, but it's bigger, slower has worst flare resistance and slightly worse CA but also has very strong IQ stopped down. So, it's much of a portrait, near focus lens but can do well in all applications. It really gets down to a preferences between those two--I really like the files from the 31 better--there's some magic in it and prefer the wider FL, so sold my CV 35/1.2iii

In a blind test, a great majority (myself included) preferred the RX1 most, then the 31 limited as an easy second, then the CV 35/1.2iii as a distant 3rd when all shot at comparable apertures for bokeh. See this: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1652099/1

For mid-distance bokeh and transition, see this:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1639692/4



Feb 02, 2021 at 05:35 PM
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Phillip Reeve wrote:
nehemiahphoto wrote
saxguy wroteThis is a great test, thanks!

I feel kind of bad for you...

...you're going to have to repeat it in a couple of weeks when the 35 1.4 GM is released
Lol, no, go away!

I am only interested in doing a GM 35/35i/RX1/GF 45/2.8 comparison. And I don’t own a GFX yet, so probably not even close.

At this point, I have tested every 35mm option that is viable and interesting to my preferences!

Though I would like to get my hands on a R 35 Summicron after Steve mentioned it, and it’s been of loose interest to me for years.
How would the CV 1.2/35 fit into the picture in your experience?

In my experience bokeh deteriorates towards the corners at longer distances but I would rate it as smoother than any 35mm I have reviewed (which excludes the RX1 and Bigma f/1.2).


My experience mirrors yours on the CV 35/1.2iii corners. Fred found that the VM 35/1.2v3 performed quite well on either sensor (stock or leica) by design, but even if you look at the central portions, I found the CV bokeh and rendering good, but not as good as the 31 ltd, but largely comparable. Near bokeh I liked the CV 35/1.2iii (it's longer and seem to have relatively fast-focus fall off for more separation and softer abstraction of OOF whereas the 31 ltd is appreciably wider a hair harsher) but mid and distance I prefer the 31 ltd. Despite some swirl, I think the new 35i is better than both the 31tld and CV 35/1i2iii for smooth rendering. All easily fall short of RX1 to my eyes. The attraction of the CV 35/1.2iii is pleasant draw, small size, excellent ergo, moderate price and great technical IQ slightly stopped down. The Pentax has better rendering and gorgeous colors/contrast, but it's bigger, slower has worst flare resistance and slightly worse CA. So, it's much of a portrait, near focus lens but can do well in all applications. It really gets down to a preferences between those two--I really like the files from the 31 better--there's some magic in it and prefer the wider FL, so sold my CV 35/1.2iii

In a blind test, a great majority (myself included) preferred the RX1 most, then the 31 limited as an easy second, then the CV 35/1.2iii as a distant 3rd when all shot at comparable apertures for bokeh. See this: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1652099/1

For mid-distance bokeh and transition, see this:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1639692/4



Feb 02, 2021 at 05:30 PM
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35mm blind test p.2


Phillip Reeve wrote:
nehemiahphoto wrote
saxguy wroteThis is a great test, thanks!

I feel kind of bad for you...

...you're going to have to repeat it in a couple of weeks when the 35 1.4 GM is released
Lol, no, go away!

I am only interested in doing a GM 35/35i/RX1/GF 45/2.8 comparison. And I don’t own a GFX yet, so probably not even close.

At this point, I have tested every 35mm option that is viable and interesting to my preferences!

Though I would like to get my hands on a R 35 Summicron after Steve mentioned it, and it’s been of loose interest to me for years.
How would the CV 1.2/35 fit into the picture in your experience?

In my experience bokeh deteriorates towards the corners at longer distances but I would rate it as smoother than any 35mm I have reviewed (which excludes the RX1 and Bigma f/1.2).


My experience mirrors yours on the CV 35/1.2iii corners. Fred found that the VM 35/1.2v3 performed quite well on either sensor (stock or leica) by design, but even if you look at the central portions, I found the CV bokeh and rendering good, but not as good as the 31 ltd, but largely comparable. Near bokeh I liked the CV 35/1.2iii (it's longer and seem to have relatively fast-focus fall off for more separation and softer abstraction of OOF whereas the 31 ltd is appreciably wider a hair harsher) but mid and distance I prefer the 31 ltd. Despite some swirl, I think the new 35i is better than both the 31tld and CV 35/1i2iii for smooth rendering. All easily fall short of RX1 to my eyes. The attraction of the CV 35/1.2iii is pleasant draw, small size, excellent ergo, moderate price and great technical IQ slightly stopped down. The Pentax has better rendering and gorgeous colors/contrast, but it's bigger, slower has worst flare resistance and slightly worse CA. So, it's much of a portrait, near focus lens but can do well in all applications. It really gets down to a preference things between those two--I really like the files from the 31 better--there's some magic in it, so sold my CV 35/1.2iii

In a blind test, a great majority (myself included) preferred the RX1 most, then the 31 limited as an easy second, then the CV 35/1.2iii as a distant 3rd when all shot at comparable apertures for bokeh. See this: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1652099/1

For mid-distance bokeh and transition, see this:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1639692/4



Feb 02, 2021 at 05:29 PM
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35mm blind test p.2


Phillip Reeve wrote:
nehemiahphoto wrote
saxguy wroteThis is a great test, thanks!

I feel kind of bad for you...

...you're going to have to repeat it in a couple of weeks when the 35 1.4 GM is released
Lol, no, go away!

I am only interested in doing a GM 35/35i/RX1/GF 45/2.8 comparison. And I don’t own a GFX yet, so probably not even close.

At this point, I have tested every 35mm option that is viable and interesting to my preferences!

Though I would like to get my hands on a R 35 Summicron after Steve mentioned it, and it’s been of loose interest to me for years.
How would the CV 1.2/35 fit into the picture in your experience?

In my experience bokeh deteriorates towards the corners at longer distances but I would rate it as smoother than any 35mm I have reviewed (which excludes the RX1 and Bigma f/1.2).


My experience mirrors yours on the CV 35/1.2iii corners. Fred found that the VM 35/1.2v3 performed quite well on either sensor (stock or leica) by design, but even if you look at the central portions, I found the CV bokeh and rendering good, but not as good as the 31 ltd, but largely comparable. Near bokeh I liked the CV 35/1.2iii (it's longer and seem to have relatively fast-focus fall off for more separation and softer abstraction of OOF whereas the 31 ltd is appreciably wider a hair harsher) but mid and distance I prefer the 31 ltd. Despite some swirl, I think the new 35i is better than both the 31tld and CV 35/1i2iii for smooth rendering. All fall short the easily RX1 to my eyes. The attraction of the CV 35/1.2iii is pleasant draw, small size, excellent ergo, moderate price and great technical IQ slightly stopped down. The Pentax has better rendering and gorgeous colors/contrast, but it's bigger, slower has worst flare resistance and slightly worse CA. So, it's much of a portrait, near focus lens but can do well in all applications. It really gets down to a preference things between those two--I really like the files from the 31 better--there's some magic in it, so sold my CV 35/1.2iii

In a blind test, a great majority (myself included) preferred the RX1 most, then the 31 limited as an easy second, then the CV 35/1.2iii as a distant 3rd when all shot at comparable apertures for bokeh. See this: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1652099/1

For mid-distance bokeh and transition, see this:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1639692/4



Feb 02, 2021 at 05:20 PM





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