Coupla issues with the external battery, the RavPower PD pack and using the USB C port on the R5/R6:
1 - The USB C port on the R5/R6 appears to be Power Delivery (PD) compliant. PD is a protocol that, according to Wikipedia: "USB Power Delivery introduces commands for altering a port's power or data role after the roles have been established when a connection is made." Both sides, the battery and the camera need to be PD to work. I have not hooked up a non-PD battery to the R5... so I have no idea if that would damage or even charge the internal battery. Further, the AC power adapter sold by Canon, the PD-E1 appears to be PD compliant by virtue of the model name... but that is my conjecture. See page 845 in the R5 manual "USB Power Delivery introduces commands for altering a port's power or data role after the roles have been established when a connection is made."
2 - Canon does not officially support driving the camera by a battery... I called CPS and they said something like "we do no support third party stuff" or something like that... I don't blame them given the tons of crap out there. However, the camera does not know the power source, only the protocol and power delivered to it... and these capabilities are all purposefully engineered into the camera.
3 - If you connect a PD battery to this camera, the operation may or may not power the camera... it will, however charge the NH battery. The delivery capability of the PD battery determines the functional capabilities. Below a particular threshold of wattage (), the battery will only charge the battery..... above which the camera can be powered directly with no usage of the NH battery... this is cool. The PD battery in the link is strong enough to power the camera fine.
4 - The battery will either run the camera or charge but not both at the same time. The camera will only charge the NH battery when asleep or turned off.
5- The above PD battery will power the R5 forever. I shot for 7 hours with the camera on the whole time... I turned off all power saving functions so the camera was awake the whole time and the rear screen on the whole time... and burned less than 1/2 of that batteries capabilities. Unbelievable. This was my objective... NOT buy more expensive batteries... and shut down all that power saving crap that slows down activation... I found the auto focus system to take a moment to wake up and then a moment further to not be stupid. This is very important if a bird shoots out from a tree line.
6- For tripod use, I strap the battery on to the tripod or hang it by a velcro strap. For driving around a nature refuge, I plug the PD battery in with the camera next to me and off.. thus charging the internal battery. Unplug, lift the camera and start to shoot. It charges the NH battery at least as fast as it drains from use.
7- So far I did not find a need to buy a 2nd NH battery, nor a battery grip, nor any of the simulated NH internal batteries. None.
8 - That PD battery is less than $50. Yes, please re-read that.
9 - There is another option I have not tried, but may consider: Buying an NH battery charger with a USB port and a 2nd NH battery. So, in my bag, I could have this PD battery charging a 2nd NH battery. Then I can just flip NH batteries. But I haven't had a need for a 2nd NH battery yet... nor can I recommend such a charger but I see there are many of them on Amazon.
10 - I find the R5 ridiculously battery hungry. To be clear, I don't want any power saving modes turned on... I want this camera awake and at the ready as long as possible and I want the rear screen on (actually I want a firmware update to turn it off/on with the info button). I also find the battery grip and extra NH batteries too expensive and, frankly, unnecessary with this PD battery option.
Coupla issues with the external battery, the RavPower PD pack and using the USB C port on the R5/R6:
1 - The USB C port on the R5/R6 appears to be Power Delivery (PD) compliant. PD is a protocol that, according to Wikipedia: "USB Power Delivery introduces commands for altering a port's power or data role after the roles have been established when a connection is made." Both sides, the battery and the camera need to be PD to work. I have not hooked up a non-PD battery to the R5... so I have no idea if that would damage or even charge the internal battery. Further, the AC power adapter sold by Canon, the PD-E1 appears to be PD compliant by virtue of the model name... but that is my conjecture. See page 845 in the R5 manual "USB Power Delivery introduces commands for altering a port's power or data role after the roles have been established when a connection is made."
2 - Canon does not officially support driving the camera by a battery... I called CPS and they said something like "we do no support third party stuff" or something like that... I don't blame them given the tons of crap out there. However, the camera does not know the power source, only the protocol and power delivered to it... and these capabilities are all purposefully engineered into the camera.
3 - If you connect a PD battery to this camera, the operation may or may not power the camera... it will, however charge the NH battery. The delivery capability of the PD battery determines the functional capabilities. Below a particular threshold of wattage (), the battery will only charge the battery..... above which the camera can be powered directly with no usage of the NH battery... this is cool. The PD battery in the link is strong enough to power the camera fine.
4 - The battery will either run the camera or charge but not both at the same time. The camera will only charge the NH battery when asleep or turned off.
5- The above PD battery will power the R5 forever. I shot for 7 hours with the camera on the whole time... I turned off all power saving functions so the camera was awake the whole time and the rear screen on the whole time... and burned less than 1/2 of that batteries capabilities. Unbelievable. This was my objective... NOT buy more expensive batteries... and shut down all that power saving crap that slows down activation... I found the auto focus system to take a moment to wake up and then a moment further to not be stupid. This is very important if a bird shoots out from a tree line.
6- For tripod use, I strap the battery on to the tripod or hang it by a velcro strap. For driving around a nature refuge, I plug the PD battery in with the camera next to me and off.. thus charging the internal battery. Unplug, lift the camera and start to shoot. It charges the NH battery at least as fast as it drains from use.
7- So far I did not find a need to buy a 2nd NH battery, nor a battery grip, nor any of the simulated NH internal batteries. None.
8 - That PD battery is less than $50. Yes, please re-read that.
9 - There is another option I have not tried, but may consider: Buying an NH battery charger with a USB port. So, in my bag, I could have this PD battery charging a 2nd NH battery. Then I can just flip NH batteries. But I haven't had a need for a 2nd NH battery yet... nor can I recommend such a charger but I see there are many of them on Amazon.
10 - I find the R5 ridiculously battery hungry. To be clear, I don't want any power saving modes turned on... I want this camera awake and at the ready as long as possible and I want the rear screen on (actually I want a firmware update to turn it off/on with the info button). I also find the battery grip and extra NH batteries too expensive and, frankly, unnecessary with this PD battery option.
Coupla issues with the external battery, the RavPower PD pack and using the USB C port on the R5/R6:
1 - The USB C port on the R5/R6 appears to be Power Delivery (PD) compliant. PD is a protocol that, according to Wikipedia: "USB Power Delivery introduces commands for altering a port's power or data role after the roles have been established when a connection is made." Both sides, the battery and the camera need to be PD to work. I have not hooked up a non-PD battery to the R5... so I have no idea if that would damage or even charge the internal battery. Further, the AC power adapter sold by Canon, the PD-E1 appears to be PD compliant by virtue of the model name... but that is my conjecture. See page 845 in the R5 manual "USB Power Delivery introduces commands for altering a port's power or data role after the roles have been established when a connection is made."
2 - Canon does not officially support driving the camera by a battery... I called CPS and they said something like "we do no support third party stuff" or something like that... I don't blame them given the tons of crap out there. However, the camera does not know the power source, only the protocol and power delivered to it... and these capabilities are all purposefully engineered into the camera.
3 - If you connect a PD battery to this camera, the operation may or may not power the camera... it will, however charge the NH battery. The delivery capability of the PD battery determines the functional capabilities. Below a particular threshold of wattage (), the battery will only charge the battery..... above which the camera can be powered directly with no usage of the NH battery... this is cool. The PD battery in the link is strong enough to power the camera fine.
4 - The battery will either run the camera or charge but not both at the same time. The camera will only charge the NH battery when asleep or turned off.
5- The above PD battery will power the R5 forever. I shot for 7 hours with the camera on the whole time... I turned off all power saving functions so the camera was awake the whole time and the rear screen on the whole time... and burned less than 1/2 of that batteries capabilities. Unbelievable. This was my objective... NOT buy more expensive batteries... and shut down all that power saving crap that slows down activation... I found the auto focus system to take a moment to wake up and then a moment further to not be stupid. This is very important if a bird shoots out from a tree line.
6- For tripod use, I strap the battery on to the tripod or hang it by a velcro strap. For driving around a nature refuge, I plug the PD battery in with the camera next to me and off.. thus charging the internal battery. Unplug, lift the camera and start to shoot. It charges the NH battery at least as fast as it drains from use.
7- So far I did not find a need to buy a 2nd NH battery, nor a battery grip, nor any of the simulated NH internal batteries. None.
8 - That PD battery is less than $50. Yes, please re-read that.
9 - There is another option I have not tried, but may consider: Buying an NH battery charger with a USB port. So, in my bag, I could have this PD battery charging a 2nd NH battery. Then I can just flip NH batteries. But I haven't had a need for a 2nd NH battery yet... nor can I recommend such a charger but I see there are many of them on Amazon.
10 - I find the R5 ridiculously battery hungry. To be clear, I don't want any power saving modes turned on... I want this camera awake and at the ready as long as possible and I want the rear screen on (actually I want a firmware update to turn it off/on with the info button).
Coupla issues with the external battery, the RavPower PD pack and using the USB C port on the R5/R6:
1 - The USB C port on the R5/R6 appears to be Power Delivery (PD) compliant. PD is a protocol that, according to Wikipedia: "USB Power Delivery introduces commands for altering a port's power or data role after the roles have been established when a connection is made." Both sides, the battery and the camera need to be PD to work. I have not hooked up a non-PD battery to the R5... so I have no idea if that would damage or even charge the internal battery. Further, the AC power adapter sold by Canon, the PD-E1 appears to be PD compliant by virtue of the model name... but that is my conjecture. See page 845 in the R5 manual "USB Power Delivery introduces commands for altering a port's power or data role after the roles have been established when a connection is made."
2 - Canon does not officially support driving the camera by a battery... I called CPS and they said something like "we do no support third party stuff" or something like that... I don't blame them given the tons of crap out there. However, the camera does not know the power source, only the protocol and power delivered to it... and these capabilities are all purposefully engineered into the camera.
3 - If you connect a PD battery to this camera, the operation may or may not power the camera... it will, however charge the NH battery. The delivery capability of the PD battery determines the functional capabilities. Below a particular threshold of wattage (), the battery will only charge the battery..... above which the camera can be powered directly with no usage of the NH battery... this is cool. The PD battery in the link is strong enough to power the camera fine.
4 - The battery will either run the camera or charge but not both at the same time. The camera will only charge the NH battery when asleep or turned off.
5- The above PD battery will power the R5 forever. I shot for 7 hours with the camera on the whole time... I turned off all power saving functions so the camera was awake the whole time and the rear screen on the whole time... and burned less than 1/2 of that batteries capabilities. Unbelievable. This was my objective... NOT buy more expensive batteries... and shut down all that power saving crap that slows down activation... I found the auto focus system to take a moment to wake up and then a moment further to not be stupid. This is very important if a bird shoots out from a tree line.
6- For tripod use, I strap the battery on to the tripod or hang it by a velcro strap. For driving around a nature refuge, I plug the PD battery in with the camera next to me and off.. thus charging the internal battery. Unplug, lift the camera and start to shoot. It charges the NH battery at least as fast as it drains from use.
7- So far I did not find a need to buy a 2nd NH battery, nor a battery grip, nor any of the simulated NH internal batteries. None.
8 - That PD battery is less than $50. Yes, please re-read that.
9 - There is another option I have not tried, but may consider: Buying an NH battery charger with a USB port. So, in my bag, I could have this PD battery charging a 2nd NH battery. Then I can just flip NH batteries. But I haven't had a need for a 2nd NH battery yet... nor can I recommend such a charger but I see there are many of them on Amazon.
Coupla issues with the external battery, the RavPower PD pack and using the USB C port on the R5/R6:
1 - The USB C port on the R5/R6 appears to be Power Delivery (PD) compliant. PD is a protocol that, according to Wikipedia: "USB Power Delivery introduces commands for altering a port's power or data role after the roles have been established when a connection is made." Both sides, the battery and the camera need to be PD to work. I have not hooked up a non-PD battery to the R5... so I have no idea if that would damage or even charge the internal battery. Further, the AC power adapter sold by Canon, the PD-E1 appears to be PD compliant by virtue of the model name... but that is my conjecture. See page 845 in the R5 manual "USB Power Delivery introduces commands for altering a port's power or data role after the roles have been established when a connection is made."
2 - Canon does not officially support driving the camera by a battery... I called CPS and they said something like "we do no support third party stuff" or something like that... I don't blame them given the tons of crap out there. However, the camera does not know the power source, only the protocol and power delivered to it... and these capabilities are all purposefully engineered into the camera.
3 - If you connect a PD battery to this camera, the operation may or may not power the camera... it will, however charge the NH battery. The delivery capability of the PD battery determines the functional capabilities. Below a particular threshold of wattage (), the battery will only charge the battery..... above which the camera can be powered directly with no usage of the NH battery... this is cool. The PD battery in the link is strong enough to power the camera fine.
4 - The battery will either run the camera or charge but not both at the same time. The camera will only charge the NH battery when asleep or turned off.
5- The above PD battery will power the R5 forever. I shot for 7 hours with the camera on the whole time... I turned off all power saving functions so the camera was awake the whole time and the rear screen on the whole time... and burned less than 1/2 of that batteries capabilities. Unbelievable. This was my objective... NOT buy more expensive batteries... and shut down all that power saving crap that slows down activation... I found the auto focus system to take a moment to wake up and then a moment further to not be stupid. This is very important if a bird shoots out from a tree line.
6- For tripod use, I strap the battery on to the tripod or hang it by a velcro strap. For driving around a nature refuge, I plug the PD battery in with the camera next to me and off.. thus charging the internal battery. Unplug, lift the camera and start to shoot. It charges the NH battery at least as fast as it drains from use.
7- So far I did not find a need to buy a 2nd NH battery, nor a battery grip, nor any of the simulated NH internal batteries. None.
8 - That PD battery is less than $50. Yes, please re-read that.
Coupla issues with the external battery, the RavPower PD pack and using the USB C port on the R5/R6:
1 - The USB C port on the R5/R6 appears to be Power Delivery (PD) compliant. PD is a protocol that, according to Wikipedia: "USB Power Delivery introduces commands for altering a port's power or data role after the roles have been established when a connection is made." Both sides, the battery and the camera need to be PD to work. I have not hooked up a non-PD battery to the R5... so I have no idea if that would damage or even charge the internal battery. Further, the AC power adapter sold by Canon, the PD-E1 appears to be PD compliant by virtue of the model name... but that is my conjecture. See page 845 in the R5 manual "USB Power Delivery introduces commands for altering a port's power or data role after the roles have been established when a connection is made."
2 - Canon does not officially support driving the camera by a battery... I called CPS and they said something like "we do no support third party stuff" or something like that... I don't blame them given the tons of crap out there. However, the camera does not know the power source, only the protocol and power delivered to it... and these capabilities are all purposefully engineered into the camera.
3 - If you connect a PD battery to this camera, the operation may or may not power the camera... it will, however charge the NH battery. The delivery capability of the PD battery determines the functional capabilities. Below a particular threshold of wattage (), the battery will only charge the battery..... above which the camera can be powered directly with no usage of the NH battery... this is cool. The PD battery in the link is strong enough to power the camera fine.
4 - The battery will either run the camera or charge but not both at the same time. The camera will only charge the NH battery when asleep or turned off.
5- The above PD battery will power the R5 forever. I shot for 7 hours with the camera on the whole time... I turned off all power saving functions so the camera was awake the whole time and the rear screen on the whole time... and burned less than 1/2 of that batteries capabilities. Unbelievable. This was my objective... NOT buy more expensive batteries... and shut down all that power saving crap that slows down activation... I found the auto focus system to take a moment to wake up and then a moment further to not be stupid. This is very important if a bird shoots out from a tree line.
6- For tripod use, I strap the battery on to the tripod or hang it by a velcro strap. For driving around a nature refuge, I plug the PD battery in with the camera next to me and off.. thus charging the internal battery. Unplug, lift the camera and start to shoot. It charges the NH battery at least as fast as it drains from use.
7- So far I did not find a need to buy a 2nd NH battery, nor a battery grip, nor any of the simulated NH internal batteries. None.
8 - That PD battery is less that $50. Yes, please re-read that.
Coupla issues with the external battery, the RavPower PD pack and using the USB C port on the R5/R6:
1 - The USB C port on the R5/R6 appears to be Power Delivery (PD) compliant. PD is a protocol that, according to Wikipedia: "USB Power Delivery introduces commands for altering a port's power or data role after the roles have been established when a connection is made." Both sides, the battery and the camera need to be PD to work. I have not hooked up a non-PD battery to the R5... so I have no idea if that would damage or even charge the internal battery. Further, the AC power adapter sold by Canon, the PD-E1 appears to be PD compliant by virtue of the model name... but that is my conjecture. See page 845 in the R5 manual "USB Power Delivery introduces commands for altering a port's power or data role after the roles have been established when a connection is made."
2 - Canon does not officially support driving the camera by a battery... I called CPS and they said something like "we do no support third party stuff" or something like that... I don't blame them given the tons of crap out there. However, the camera does not know the power source, only the protocol and power delivered to it... and these capabilities are all purposefully engineered into the camera.
3 - If you connect a PD battery to this camera, the operation may or may not power the camera... it will, however charge the NH battery. The delivery capability of the PD battery determines the functional capabilities. Below a particular threshold of wattage (), the battery will only charge the battery..... above which the camera can be powered directly with no usage of the NH battery... this is cool. The PD battery in the link is strong enough to power the camera fine.
4 - The battery will either run the camera or charge but not both at the same time. The camera will only charge the NH battery when asleep or turned off.
5- The above PD battery will power the R5 forever. I shot for 7 hours with the camera on the whole time... I turned off all power saving functions so the camera was awake the whole time and the rear screen on the whole time... and burned less than 1/2 of that batteries capabilities. Unbelievable. This was my objective... NOT buy more expensive batteries... and shut down all that power saving crap that slows down activation... I found the auto focus system to take a moment to wake up and then a moment further to not be stupid. This is very important if a bird shoots out from a tree line.
6- For tripod use, I strap the battery on to the tripod or hang it by a velcro strap. For driving around a nature refuge, I plug the PD battery in with the camera next to me and off.. thus charging the internal battery. Unplug, lift the camera and start to shoot. It charges the NH battery at least as fast as it drains from use.
7- So far I did not find a need to buy a 2nd NH battery, nor a battery grip, nor any of the simulated NH internal batteries. None.
Coupla issues with the external battery, the RavPower PD pack and using the USB C port on the R5/R6:
1 - The USB C port on the R5/R6 appears to be Power Delivery (PD) compliant. PD is a protocol that, according to Wikipedia: "USB Power Delivery introduces commands for altering a port's power or data role after the roles have been established when a connection is made." Both sides, the battery and the camera need to be PD to work. I have not hooked up a non-PD battery to the R5... so I have no idea if that would damage or even charge the internal battery. Further, the AC power adapter sold by Canon, the PD-E1 appears to be PD compliant by virtue of the model name... but that is my conjecture.
2 - Canon does not officially support driving the camera by a battery... I called CPS and they said something like "we do no support third party stuff" or something like that... I don't blame them given the tons of crap out there. However, the camera does not know the power source, only the protocol and power delivered to it... and these capabilities are all purposefully engineered into the camera.
3 - If you connect a PD battery to this camera, the operation may or may not power the camera... it will, however charge the NH battery. The delivery capability of the PD battery determines the functional capabilities. Below a particular threshold of wattage, the battery will only charge the battery..... above which the camera can be powered directly with no usage of the NH battery... this is cool. The PD battery in the link is strong enough to power the camera fine.
4 - The battery will either run the camera or charge but not both at the same time. The camera will only charge the NH battery when asleep or turned off.
5- The above PD battery will power the R5 forever. I shot for 7 hours with the camera on the whole time... I turned off all power saving functions so the camera was awake the whole time and the rear screen on the whole time... and burned less than 1/2 of that batteries capabilities. Unbelievable.
6- For tripod use, I strap the battery on to the tripod or hang it by a velcro strap. For driving around a nature refuge, I plug the PD battery in with the camera next to me and off.. thus charging the internal battery. Unplug, lift the camera and start to shoot. It charges the NH battery at least as fast as it drains from use.
7- So far I did not find a need to buy a 2nd NH battery. None.
Coupla issues with the external battery, the RavPower PD pack and using the USB C port on the R5/R6:
1 - The USB C port on the R5/R6 appears to be Power Delivery (PD) compliant. PD is a protocol that, according to Wikipedia: "USB Power Delivery introduces commands for altering a port's power or data role after the roles have been established when a connection is made." Both sides, the battery and the camera need to be PD to work. I have not hooked up a non-PD battery to the R5... so I have no idea if that would damage or even charge the internal battery. Further, the AC power adapter sold by Canon, the PD-E1 appears to be PD compliant by virtue of the model name... but that is my conjecture.
2 - Canon does not officially support driving the camera by a battery... I called CPS and they said something like "we do no support third party stuff" or something like that... I don't blame them given the tons of crap out there. However, the camera does not know the power source, only the protocol and power delivered to it... and these capabilities are all purposely engineered into the camera.
3 - If you connect a PD battery to this camera, the operation may or may not power the camera... it will, however charge the NH battery. The delivery capability of the PD battery determines the functional capabilities. Below a particular threshold of wattage, the battery will only charge the battery..... above which the camera can be powered directly with no usage of the NH battery... this is cool. The PD battery in the link is strong enough to power the camera fine.
4 - The battery will either run the camera or charge but not both at the same time. The camera will only charge the NH battery when asleep or turned off.
5- The above PD battery will power the R5 forever. I shot for 7 hours with the camera on the whole time... I turned off all power saving functions so the camera was awake the whole time and the rear screen on the whole time... and burned less than 1/2 of that batteries capabilities. Unbelievable.
6- For tripod use, I strap the battery on to the tripod or hang it by a velcro strap. For driving around a nature refuge, I plug the PD battery in with the camera next to me and off.. thus charging the internal battery. Unplug, lift the camera and start to shoot. It charges the NH battery at least as fast as it drains from use.
7- So far I did not find a need to buy a 2nd NH battery. None.
Peace
Bruce in Philly
Dec 21, 2020 at 02:28 PM
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), the battery will only charge the battery..... above which the camera can be powered directly with no usage of the NH battery... this is cool. The PD battery in the link is strong enough to power the camera fine.