Chaemono wrote: snapsy wrote: Chaemono wrote: snapsy wrote: Chaemono wrote: snapsy wrote: Chaemono wrote: snapsy wrote: saxguy wrote:
I had the original SL and then moved to the A7r iii and now the iv.
I also had the Q2 for a bit. The Q2 was an amazing little camera, but the one thing I couldn't get past was the noise from the sensor in low light and the dynamic range. The SL2 has the same sensor. I like shooting in low light and the ability to pull from shadows with Sony's sensors and the fact that noise doesn't begin to become an issue until higher ISOs keeps me in the Sony camp.
Also, the focus of the Q2 wasn't as good as my a7r iii/iv.
Don't get me wrong, I have some images from my Q2 that I love (and from my original SL), but I'm not migrating back to Leica.
Dpreview just posted a sample gallery from the SL2 including low-light base ISO raws. I processed one with +5EV in PS and the DR looks excellent. Here's a link if you'd like to process one yourself:
The SL2 has better DR than the α7R III because it produces very clean files with no pushed shadows banding. The α7R III easily shows banding in pushed shadows and limits therefore one in one's ability to decrease exposure so as to not blow highlights in high contrast scenes, because one will be limited in one's ability to correct (brighten) dark tones in post-processing.
These here were inadvertently not framed equally but exposed equally. The tonal adjustments in LR are Exposure +2, Highlights -64, Shadows +100 for both. See the pushed shadows banding in the upper left corner in the Sony picture? Also, see this thread here: https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/303206-sl2-vs-s1r-difference-in-iq-image-thread-or-is-the-s1r-a-good-back-up-for-the-sl2-iq-wise/#comments. It includes links to download the RAW files.
Can you point me to where I should look for the banding in the upper-left portion of the A7rIII image? I'm not seeing it at first glance.
I've already downloaded the raws. What I need is to know what part of the image you're seeing the banding on in the A7rIII files and please be specific.
That's not banding. And whatever it is I don't see it when I process the A7R3 raw in ACR/PS. Those green outlines look like improper application of CA correction in how the file was processed. Or some alternate color PP.
A7R3 raw I processed on left, your marked-up image on the right:
Sony should talk Adobe to fix the issue in LR then. I'm not going to learn another workflow because they haven't done so, yet. The SL2 files look much cleaner and nicer when shadows are pushed, exposure is lifted, and highlights are pulled back. I'll do more comparisons, also with the Z7. From what I've seen so far in LR, in high contrast scenes the SL2 will beat the other two by a mile.
Glad you two went through the followup scrutiny/further analysis. I didn't see any banding in your original test images either. What do you think caused the aberrations in your original images? I see the settings and lenses you used as posted in the other Leica Forum? BTW, What version of LR did you use?
"And now the crops of the upper right corner. Again, the adjustments are Exposure +2.8, Shadows +100, Highlights -100, Sharpening +40, NR +60. :α7R III + Planar FE 50/1.4 crop from the above 😂"
