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 Re: Pre-order: Zeiss Batis 40mm f/2 CF ($1,299) | |
Steve Spencer wrote:
nhsonyshooter wrote:
For UW I prefer the Lawoa 15mmf2. Small,sharp,fast, regular screw on filter, great close focusing etc... Cant really see Sony improving on it. But wouldn't mind them trying: )
Steve Spencer wrote:
Justin Stone wrote:
Sony has pursued a maximum Batis devaluation strategy and Zeiss hasn’t helped.
And I t goes a little something like this: 1) Sony allows Zeiss to fill an unfilled gap in the native lens lineup. 2) Zeiss creates an overpriced lens of moderate aperture and good to great performance 3) lots of people buy said lens 4) Sony releases a direct competitor and improves on it in some combination of the following (price, Max aperture, bokeh, aperture ring, etc) 5) lots of people want to buy the new Sony lens and sell the now redundant Zeiss Batis lens 6) resale plummets on a lens that seems even more overpriced than it originally did because of the glut of sellers and a dearth of new buyers because there’s an (at worse) arguably better lens (or, at best, vastly superior lens) at a better value from Sony.
eyal wrote:
This lens is becoming less and less appealing to me which is unfortunate because I was really interested in it as a great one lens walk-about option.
The EyeAF is one (major) issue as I would be relying on it for portraits of my kids when the 85 was too long.
The new rumors of a Sony 35 G is another hurdle and, though a rumor, seems to be more probable than not.
Plus the resale values of the Batis line as noted by another user on the forum is of concern with prices for the 'equivalent' Batis 25/2 hovering in the $7-800 range.
Only the 25 and the 85 have Sony competitors at the moment and they do in very different ways. The Batis 18 has no real competitor and I really wish somebody would make a pretty small MF alternative, but so far nothing. Similarly the Batis 135 has no Sony competitor and is a fantastic lens. Sure it is expensive, but it is a fine lens. Now it does look like the Batis 25 has been outclasses by the GM 24, but at least the Batis is a bit cheaper and lighter. The Batis 85, in contrast gets beat for price and size by the Sony FE 85 f/1.8. So those two Batis lenses are beat (if you consider them beat) by Sony in very different ways.
I have the Laowa 15 f/2 and yes it is a very nice lens (but I do wish it had electronic contact for EXIF). Still I would really like an 18mm. For sets of primes I like to have 15, 21, & 28 or 18, 24/25, and 35/40. I can't quite get either set with the MF primes I would like. I could go with the Laowa 15 f/2, Loxia 21 but then there is no great option at 28. Or I could go with the Batis 18, Loxia 25, and CV 40, which is the set I use most, but I still wish I could replace the Batis 18 with a good MF prime.
I agree with you Steve. I'm hoping that a good 28mm MF will plug the gap. I'm using 15, 21, 40, 65, 110.
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