skibum5 wrote:
Yes an $8000 1DsX would also be a niche too, so either they have to make it like 12fps fast like the 1DX or maybe just forget it and make a reasonably priced, smaller 5D4 thing instead.
No one knows what the next Canon bodies will look like. Some on this board make bold proclamations, but are constantly proven wrong. Others on this thread are making comparisons to a mythical camera and trashing it while at the same time chastising people for making up claims about a current camera that is being reviewed.
\"How could a 2K body not have an impact on Canon\'s plan to gouge for an 8K high MP 1DS brick that can\'t match the DR of a 2K body that\'s less than half the size/weight and 1/4th the cost? You will see these little \"disposable\" A7r in many LS\'ers bags until Canon responds, IF they are even able to catch up some day.\"
Somehow, this poster knows what Canon\'s plans are, knows how the technology will perform and has already made his conclusions. Somehow, 5 people \'like\' that comment (the usual groupies). Somehow, no one challenges this ridiculous statement of utter BS. EDIT: forgot to add that the poster is making blatant mis-representations of the prices to suit his jaded view of the world.
skibum5 wrote:
Yes an $8000 1DsX would also be a niche too, so either they have to make it like 12fps fast like the 1DX or maybe just forget it and make a reasonably priced, smaller 5D4 thing instead.
No one knows what the next Canon bodies will look like. Some on this board make bold proclamations, but are constantly proven wrong. Others on this thread are making comparisons to a mythical camera and trashing it while at the same time chastising people for making up claims about a current camera that is being reviewed.
\"How could a 2K body not have an impact on Canon\'s plan to gouge for an 8K high MP 1DS brick that can\'t match the DR of a 2K body that\'s less than half the size/weight and 1/4th the cost? You will see these little \"disposable\" A7r in many LS\'ers bags until Canon responds, IF they are even able to catch up some day.\"
Somehow, this poster knows what Canon\'s plans are, knows how the technology will perform and has already made his conclusions. Somehow, 5 people \'like\' that comment (the usual groupies). Somehow, no one challenges this ridiculous statement of utter BS.
skibum5 wrote: jctriguy wrote: artd wrote:
No, we are not all at all about hyperbole here. If you want to feed into that, that\'s your choice. I will not. Reading the scores to me, the difference looks so small as to be within a margin of error. Trying to take the miniscule difference displayed in DxO scores and say that it\'s \"worse\" is basically just trying to fan the flames.
As far as AF being slower, it very well may be, but exactly \"how much\" slower is not yet known and will likely be a subjective topic. Battery life.... 340 shots seems pretty good for a mirrorless full frame camera. How is that great? I would ask the reverse. How is that shitty?
So to put things in context, since it might be getting muddied here with so many different tangents going. This is the original point in a string of posts that I replied to:
David Baldwin wrote:
Bottom line: Sony have effectively lowered the market price for a top of the line FF sensor. Canon\'s future releases need to reflect this new reality. A month ago I would have to accept whatever Canon asked for a full frame body, now I can opt to go Sony. Real choice, and I fully expect Canon will rise to the challenge, perhaps late 2014
In this context, AF speed, battery life and cost are all relevant factors. For the new Sony to cause a downward trend in the FF market, it needs to have mass market appeal. Right now, it appears to have a strong niche appeal. Cameras are so much more than sensors, they are tools that fit into a system. Sony has no system in place and even the positive reviews have raised serious reservations for certain groups of users.
If this A7r was $1000 I would jump on it immediately, as would countless other people. At nearly $2800, I won\'t even look twice. I\'d rather wait for Canon to come with something even if it was 4k for a body.
Yes an $8000 1DsX would also be a niche too, so either they have to make it like 12fps fast like the 1DX or maybe just forget it and make a reasonably priced, smaller 5D4 thing instead.
No one knows what the next Canon bodies will look like. Some on this board make bold proclamations, but are constantly proven wrong. Others on this thread are making comparisons to a mythical camera and trashing it while at the same time chastising people for making up claims about a current camera that is being reviewed.
Nov 02, 2013 at 01:34 AM
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