Samureye wrote:
Hmmh, over at cnet.com the cite a price of about 9'500US$ (I don't know if this will be true), but hey, it looks like this one - for once - comes with the tripod collar included.
Andy Biggs wrote:
Guys, this is exactly the lens I wanted before I switched over to Nikon 2 years ago. With the built-in 1.4x TC, and better video from the Canon camp, I am likely going to move back to Canon when this lens starts to ship. It's a great day!
I wonder... does this lens have the new 3-way AF that the new super-tele primes have, where you twist the focus preset ring to focus? I can't tell from the photos that have been posted, and the press releases don't mention it.
I agree ... but we don't want to get carried away either. Canon made this early announcement maybe because they want to see people's reaction to this lens and gauge what we are willing to pay for it.
I will be quite happy if they priced it "competitively" i.e. comparable to the Nikon equivalent.
Canongarcon wrote:
I just have to laugh at people who think they can get this lens for $4,000 or less. Brah hah hah. Are you serious or delirious?
PetKal wrote:
Gary, I am busy now making the inventory of all personal possessions and kitchen appliances I'd have to sell in order to get enough money to buy this new lens.
So, what appliances are you willing to sell? Might be willing to pick up a food processor of some sort.
PetKal wrote:
Seriously though, I ain't selling 400DO to get 200-400L.
400DO is light and small, agile enough, IQ is OK and it has been paid for.
If I need/want top notch IQ, then I just have to grab 500 f/4 (or 500 f/4.5L).
The purpose if for the versatility, not for the top-notch IQ. I think it must be excellent without the TC, but the question is how well the TC works. The more I think about it the more the 200-400 and 600/4 IS II make a great pair. The latter weighs the same as the 500/4 IS and though bulky, it will be hand holdable for brief periods.
PetKal wrote:
Gary, I am busy now making the inventory of all personal possessions and kitchen appliances I'd have to sell in order to get enough money to buy this new lens.
Seriously though, I ain't selling 400DO to get 200-400L.
400DO is light and small, agile enough, IQ is OK and it has been paid for.
If I need/want top notch IQ, then I just have to grab 500 f/4 (or 500 f/4.5L).
but what about the lack of mode 3 on the 400 DO? what will you of all people do without mode 3? it seems like you are the target market for mode 3. oh and also apparently the mode will also help for bird photography
Indeed, I think that molson guy nailed it on the head!
He even mentioned a special new technology for a Canon lens would appear.
Sadly, he was a little off on the special part, suggesting a Direct Print Button instead of the less useful flip in TC we will actually get, but good call all the same. We can't fault him for being a hopelessly delusional optimist and sometimes getting a little too carried away. Yeah, no doubts, the DPB would've been sweet but hey, was it really realistic to expect that in this price segment? And we did get the next best thing.
garyvot wrote:
There'll always be a market for the primes. Leaving out the 400 DO (which will likely remain at least a pound lighter and quite a bit more compact), you still gain one f/stop at the long end and up to two f/stops at the short end.
Plus almost certainly the primes will work better with the TCs, if the zoom even accepts TCs. (I strongly supect this lens will be like the 70-300L, and not take Canon's teleconverters. Canon has never officially supported the stacking of its teleconverters, and I rather doubt we'll see it now.)
I'd guess the primes will retain a slight optical edge, plus, some will always have a need for a faster, f/2.8 lens.
Now that this lens has been announced, I wonder if the pricing for the new super teles somewhat reflects how the zoom could affect demand for the primes. If Canon anticipates selling fewer of the primes, partly due to a shrinking pro market, partly due to significant numbers of 'Mark I' IS lenses and pre-IS lenses still in use, partly due to the weakness of the USD, but also partly due to the zoom, it could explain the very high prices for the primes. Fewer orders will make them more costly to manufacture, but I don't think Canon can eliminate them either. Therefore the prime prices will be quite dear.
skibum5 wrote:
but what about the lack of mode 3 on the 400 DO? what will you of all people do without mode 3? it seems like you are the target market for mode 3. oh and also apparently the mode will also help for bird photography
I do not have the faintest idea what that Mode 3 is supposed to do, how it does it and to whom it is meant for.
In fact, I can not remember if I ever used the mode 2 either other than in some exploratory testing when I just got my first 300 f/4 IS.
I will use the Mode 1 on 300mm and longer lenses for AF steadines when tracking moving targets with the duration of at least 3-4 seconds.
RazorTM wrote:
I wonder... does this lens have the new 3-way AF that the new super-tele primes have, where you twist the focus preset ring to focus? I can't tell from the photos that have been posted, and the press releases don't mention it.
It looks to be that way given that all of the other switches appear to be in the same place as the 500/4 IS II, etc.
EB-1 wrote:
It looks to be that way given that all of the other switches appear to be in the same place as the 500/4 IS II, etc.
EBH
hmm how could the focus preset ring be used for focusing
That doesn't seem to make sense and I can't imagine they'd have you using that skinny, knobby little ring as the focusing ring.
