Canongarcon wrote:
The price of energy and food have gone up recently as well. You think photographic equipment is suppose to be exempt from price increases? Everyone is going to make adjustments when the price of items go up. There is many reasons for Canon price increases.
See, your response indicates that you simply DID NOT READ or COMPREHEND what I wrote.
NOWHERE did I ever state that Canon or photographic equipment should be exempt from price increases. Show me where I said it. I dare you. Otherwise, just shut up.
Oh, and I might as well point out that energy and food are MUCH more inelastic than camera equipment. Even for a professional whose income relies on buying camera gear, they must EAT first and pay their electricity and gas bills. Thus, when the cost of food and energy goes up, people have little choice but to pay up. When camera gear costs go up, even working photographers have a choice of buying lower-cost models, or just waiting it out. Hobbyists, unless they are wealthy, are even less likely to accommodate price increases for camera equipment, since it is by definition a hobby, and thus a lens is a luxury good, especially compared to basic food and energy.
Just face up to the fact that I completely OWN you in basic economic theory, and every time you accuse someone of being some "leftist" because they don't adhere to what you think are the ways a free market should operate, you expose the fact that you are completely CLUELESS about such things.
There are few things as silly, and amusing, as a bunch of people, most of whom have absolutely no idea what they're talking about, "debating" economic theory (to be nice about it) on a photography board, where it has no place.
Some guy is nice enough to give us warning of an impending price increase, in case we're seriously contemplating a purchase in the near future, and it turns into a mostly-laughable, utterly off topic, debate.
wickerprints wrote:
Just face up to the fact that I completely OWN you....
Gotta be careful with a vernacular of that sort.....if those words are taken out of context, someone might think that you own a chap called "Garcon" in a kinda corporal way.
wickerprints wrote:
See, your response indicates that you simply DID NOT READ or COMPREHEND what I wrote.
NOWHERE did I ever state that Canon or photographic equipment should be exempt from price increases. Show me where I said it. I dare you. Otherwise, just shut up.
Oh, and I might as well point out that energy and food are MUCH more inelastic than camera equipment. Even for a professional whose income relies on buying camera gear, they must EAT first and pay their electricity and gas bills. Thus, when the cost of food and energy goes up, people have little choice but to pay up. When camera gear costs go up, even working photographers have a choice of buying lower-cost models, or just waiting it out. Hobbyists, unless they are wealthy, are even less likely to accommodate price increases for camera equipment, since it is by definition a hobby, and thus a lens is a luxury good, especially compared to basic food and energy.
Just face up to the fact that I completely OWN you in basic economic theory, and every time you accuse someone of being some "leftist" because they don't adhere to what you think are the ways a free market should operate, you expose the fact that you are completely CLUELESS about such things....Show more →
Still sounds like you want photographers to be exempt what almost every other profession has to go through in these times. Mechanics have to pay more for their equipment and parts and pass that on to their costumers, who are not very happy when the labour charge per hour goes up. Both the customers and mechanics have to make adjustments.
So you go by the way you think the free market SHOULD operate while I go by the way the free market REALLY operates. Canon's prices are going up no matter and there is nothing you can really do about it. Only leftists will rant about Canon's "greed" and want some kind of government intervention to stop it.
Photographers have choices to make. Do they really need the newest and greatest equipment that gearheads run out to buy as soon as it becomes available? Can they get by with cheaper 3rd party alternatives or used equioment.
Perhaps these price increased will get people to get to think about personal responsibility (a concept that is foreign to many leftists) and think before they buy or don't buy.
Canongarcon wrote:
Perhaps these price increased will get people to get to think about personal responsibility (a concept that is foreign to many leftists) and think before they buy or don't buy.
I've had enough, really. [Eddie Izzard voice] Oh, do shut up, will you? [/EIV]
Canongarcon wrote:
Still sounds like you want photographers to be exempt what almost every other profession has to go through in these times.
WHERE did I say that? Show me the EXACT phrase or sentence. Don't quote my entire post and claim it's in there somewhere.
Here, let me spell it out for you because you clearly fail basic reading comprehension, and somehow have this crazy idea that anyone who criticizes you for any reason must be a "leftist": Canon has a right to increase their prices due to the falling dollar. Photographers are not exempt from price increases. If consumers cannot afford or don't want to pay the higher price, they don't buy the goods. Is that clear enough for you to understand, or do I need to write it in crayon for you?
M Vers wrote:
Although you're obviously saving some money there, it will most likely go up as well.
If the price of new equipment is going to go up, then the price of used equipment is going up as well, probably a higher % than the new price increases since there is going to be more demand for used equipment.
gfiksel wrote:
The price was going up prior to 2008 as well. It also happens everywhere, not just in US. To relate it to just the currency exchange rate is wrong.
Actually if you relate the prices to the currency exchange, they have gone down. For me and others that don't live in the USA, it's a lot cheaper to buy a lens at B&H today than it was 3-4 years ago