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johntodd wrote:
The Arsat 35mm is actually a tilt/shift - I've just received my second one. It's limited in that the tilt and shift are fixed to the same plane, unlike the Hartblei, but it does have both. I see them branded as Arax and Photex as well.

Thanks, this is good to know! I assumed that this Arsat lens is only the shift one which is shown by Peire in the post above. Yes, I found pics of this lens online. Where did you get your lens(es) from? Checking online, I saw that this kind or Arsat/Arax lens is currently not available.

Dec 06, 2010 at 07:49 AM

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Retro,

My source is Kremlin Optics in Toronto: http://www.kremlinoptics.com/catalog/item/mc_35_mm_tilt_&_shift_m42_lens.html . Although they're here in Canada, the lens was dispatched directly from Kiev - I didn't even get stung for extra duty! (YMMV)

Dec 06, 2010 at 11:36 AM

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Oh, and I received my second copy of this lens as recently as two weeks ago. (Note to self - maybe Hartbleis bounce off concrete, but Arsats don't :-( )

Dec 06, 2010 at 11:38 AM

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p.2 #4 · p.2 #4 · cheapest tilt/shift lens?

Nikon made 2 different PC (Perspective control) lenses back in manual focus era in 35mm and 28mm flavors.

The 28mm f/4 and f/3.5 range in price between upper $200s to lower $600s.
The 35 f/2.8 ranges in price between upper $100s to lower $400s (depending on age).

There's an arsat 80 f/2.8 tilt/shift lens in the mid-$300s. Reports on the internet suggest that its optics are OK, with some softness at wider apertures. Here's a review (in non-english) with pictures that show performance at various apertures:
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I've, personally, been considering a Pentacon 6 lens and the Arsat/Arax tilt adapter. Namely, a CZ Jena 50 f/4 or CZ Jena 80 f/2.8. I just haven't taken the plunge because of the holidays (and my own, recent, purchases)

Dec 06, 2010 at 11:49 AM

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p.2 #5 · p.2 #5 · cheapest tilt/shift lens?

Build a Tilt-Shift Camera Lens for Peanuts (from creative pro)
http://www.creativepro.com/article/build-a-tilt-shift-camera-lens-peanuts

aznkidd55 wrote:
anyone know whats the cheapest tilt shift lens out there? I want to experiment with it but dont want to spend that much money on one right now.

thanks!

Dec 06, 2010 at 11:54 AM

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johntodd wrote:
Retro,

My source is Kremlin Optics in Toronto: http://www.kremlinoptics.com/catalog/item/mc_35_mm_tilt_&_shift_m42_lens.html . Although they're here in Canada, the lens was dispatched directly from Kiev - I didn't even get stung for extra duty! (YMMV)

Thanks for the link! Including the $60 for shipping and handling, the price comes fairly close to a used Canon T/S lens, version I. Looks like they realized that their Arsat T/S lenses are the only suitable alternative to the higher priced Canon/Nikon ones. Formerly on older websites the Arsat lenses were offered for much less when Hartblei T/S lenses were still independent from Zeiss!

Dec 06, 2010 at 12:29 PM

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kakomu wrote:
There's an arsat 80 f/2.8 tilt/shift lens in the mid-$300s. Reports on the internet suggest that its optics are OK, with some softness at wider apertures. Here's a review (in non-english) with pictures that show performance at various apertures:
link

Yeps, the arsat 80 f2.8 T/S lens existed to this price formerly.....now you can't get it for this price anymore! The weblink given by johntodd above is the most actual so far I have seen to purchase it directly as new copy. The lens more than doubled in price....

Dec 06, 2010 at 12:35 PM

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p.2 #8 · p.2 #8 · cheapest tilt/shift lens?

hmm, this is an interesting post. Do you guys know how good the ARSAT(Arax/Photex) 35 2.8 . Could any of you that actually have owned (or do own) this lens post some material. Preferably on a Nikon FF but any images and I'm glad!
Thanks

Dec 06, 2010 at 01:10 PM

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kakomu wrote:
Nikon made 2 different PC (Perspective control) lenses back in manual focus era in 35mm and 28mm flavors.

The 28mm f/4 and f/3.5 range in price between upper $200s to lower $600s.
The 35 f/2.8 ranges in price between upper $100s to lower $400s (depending on age).

There's an arsat 80 f/2.8 tilt/shift lens in the mid-$300s. Reports on the internet suggest that its optics are OK, with some softness at wider apertures. Here's a review (in non-english) with pictures that show performance at various apertures:
link

I've, personally, been considering a Pentacon 6 lens and the Arsat/Arax tilt adapter. Namely, a CZ Jena 50...Show more →

is the f/4 more highly regarded in general as a better performer?

Dec 06, 2010 at 01:59 PM

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retrofocus wrote:
Yeps, the arsat 80 f2.8 T/S lens existed to this price formerly.....now you can't get it for this price anymore! The weblink given by johntodd above is the most actual so far I have seen to purchase it directly as new copy. The lens more than doubled in price....

I checked ebay right before I made my post. Buy it now prices were at $370 for Arsat 80mm f/2.8 T/S lenses.

drdrew wrote:
is the f/4 more highly regarded in general as a better performer?

I think the f/3.5 is thought of as better/sharper (albeit to a small degree). Bear in mind that the f/3.5 is also newer, so in all likelihood improved upon the design of the f/4 version. Also, note that Nikon PC lenses are shift only. They don't have tilt functionality.

Dec 06, 2010 at 02:53 PM

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AH...well tanks for that info, but was looking for both so i guess i need to save more pennies for the pc-e...

Dec 06, 2010 at 04:28 PM

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p.2 #12 · p.2 #12 · cheapest tilt/shift lens?

Here're a couple from the Arsat 35mm:

1 min exposure, swing to get the wall and distant buildings in focus:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4147/4988439536_b5cf26191f_z.jpg

Slight rise for framing and tilt for depth-of-field - corners of the roof aren't great at 100%:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/4988432888_411a64bfc5_z.jpg

Hand held, no tilt or shift:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4103/4987833235_0316ff2150_z.jpg

Dec 06, 2010 at 05:47 PM

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