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---XR--- wrote:
yes but historically he is very correct. you can get an old 600mm f4.0 L with AF (EF whatever) for $3000, you get the ai-s MF super tele nikkors for more than that.

Nikon's AF-I supertelephotos are selling for fantastic prices.



Nov 22, 2010 at 02:12 PM
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p.6 #2 · what do you NOT like about nikon??


Gunzorro wrote:
I love the products as far as quality and imaging goes, but it is surprising the company hasn't been losing more market share to Canon than it has.


If your implication is that Canon has been taking market share away from Nikon, then I disagree with you. Everything I've seen indicates that the last three years (or however long it's been since the D3/D300 release) have been a time when Nikon has consistently taken market share away from Canon.



Nov 22, 2010 at 02:24 PM
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p.6 #3 · what do you NOT like about nikon??


Zaitz wrote:
Nikon's AF-I supertelephotos are selling for fantastic prices.


It's my understanding that there's good reason for that, repair parts may be non-existent if your lens should be damaged or die. Not that that makes the prices any less tempting



Nov 22, 2010 at 02:52 PM
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p.6 #4 · what do you NOT like about nikon??


Jammy Straub wrote:
It's my understanding that there's good reason for that, repair parts may be non-existent if your lens should be damaged or die. Not that that makes the prices any less tempting

I took that risk and would again! Sub 1500 for an AF 300mm f2.8 can't be beat.



Nov 22, 2010 at 03:00 PM
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p.6 #5 · what do you NOT like about nikon??


The prices of the newl ens releases (24 1.4, etc.)


Nov 22, 2010 at 03:44 PM
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Jammy Straub wrote:
It's my understanding that there's good reason for that, repair parts may be non-existent if your lens should be damaged or die. Not that that makes the prices any less tempting


jammy is correct, and outside of the 300 2.8 AF-I (great prices), the 400 2.8 is the only AF-I I have really seen for sale, 500 and 600mm AF-I's mabey one each, and the 400mm 2.8 AF-I's i saw were 4800ish, while the AF-S I version is just into the 5000's and will be worked on by nikon if it should be damaged.

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Nov 22, 2010 at 04:05 PM
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p.6 #7 · what do you NOT like about nikon??


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The prices of the newl ens releases (24 1.4, etc.)

+1
I bought a D700 thinking it'd do a lot of manual focusing... but then I ended up picking up the 24G and the 85G... so definitely the only "dislike" is the hurting Nikon's doing to my wallet...



Nov 22, 2010 at 04:05 PM
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p.6 #8 · what do you NOT like about nikon??


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When I started researching better digital cameras, I sought to download and read the camera manuals. Canon makes their manuals (and their drivers, software, tips, etc) all freely available. Not so with Nikon - I was put off that they required "registration" and a serial number to get a PDF of the manual; only a crippled non-printable version is available without registration.

I did buy a Nikon 5000 Film scanner -- and then had to go to a 3rd party software package for it, as the Nikon software is terrible.

So, I guess Nikon loses out -- I ended up buying over
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To be perfectly blunt I wish Nikon lost out a lot more. I liked it here a lot better say 3 to 4 years ago. This is not a personal statement to you just an observation in general. I understand people have their gripes and we are all entitled to them I just never ever felt a particular lens or camera would make or break the photographer that I am or could be.

I liked it better when Nikon was inevitably going under and Canon rules forever ... I liked the humble perspective and the focus of photography in general. I liked the RW input and photos of examples or sometimes just of a dog for no other reason than just because. I felt having a Nikon preference didn't have to have anything to do with MTF charts or boring examples.

So in light of my response I can formulate a gripe, with Nikon's emergence as a contender came along what seemed a paradigm shift towards dissertations on every bit of gear that drowns out the warmth of what I feel a photograph embodies.

Everyone has a gripe and I'm fine with that, I guess I just realized I have one too.

Rene



Nov 22, 2010 at 06:28 PM
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p.6 #9 · what do you NOT like about nikon??


rnyc1 wrote:
The prices of the newl ens releases (24 1.4, etc.)


This. A new 85mm 1.4 that is twice the price of the old one? Really?



Nov 22, 2010 at 07:00 PM
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rnyc1 wrote:
The prices of the newl ens releases (24 1.4, etc.)


+1,000

(used to be +1 but the cost went up)



Nov 23, 2010 at 12:31 PM
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harrygilbert wrote:
When I started researching better digital cameras, I sought to download and read the camera manuals. Canon makes their manuals (and their drivers, software, tips, etc) all freely available. Not so with Nikon - I was put off that they required "registration" and a serial number to get a PDF of the manual; only a crippled non-printable version is available without registration.

I did buy a Nikon 5000 Film scanner -- and then had to go to a 3rd party software package for it, as the Nikon software is terrible.

So, I guess Nikon loses out -- I ended up buying over
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I'm sure you will enjoy your new gear. But, really, making a decision based on the ability to download a complete manual? Sounds like you were leaning towards Canon in the first place.



Nov 23, 2010 at 02:21 PM
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p.6 #12 · what do you NOT like about nikon??


Rodolfo -- Sorry, I don't see it that way. I was on assignment recently, photographing an event. There was me with a 5D, a magazine photographer with a 5DII and a vidieographer with a 7D. Of the other 8 or 9 semi-pros or advanced shooters, only one had a Nikon D90. These were all serious on-camera flash shooters, not pop-up amatuers.

I just don't see Nikon gaining ground on Canon, except for brief moments, and then falling back.

Don't get me wrong, Nikon still has power and influence, and quite a following in professional circles, but I wish they could get in gear and really put out some groundbreaking equipment and market it properly.

luminosity -- I forgot to forward you the memo: FILM IS DEAD.

But I hear horse-drawn buggies are coming back in, so who knows?



Nov 23, 2010 at 02:39 PM
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p.6 #13 · what do you NOT like about nikon??


I just don't see Nikon gaining ground on Canon, except for brief moments, and then falling back

Not according to this: http://www.1001noisycameras.com/2010/07/nikon-grabs-the-1-spot-in-dslrsilcs-in-japan-h12010-revisited-real-story-canon-falls-off-a-cliff.html



Nov 23, 2010 at 03:28 PM
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p.6 #14 · what do you NOT like about nikon??


I can't decipher the article (Japanese) that it's based on, but it appears Nikon has made one of its periodic surges. But the main sales listed in the English synopsis are attributed to the D90, which is basically dumping product, not continuing revenue stream. Still, sales are sales!


Nov 23, 2010 at 04:50 PM
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p.6 #15 · what do you NOT like about nikon??


Maybe that explains why you can't get the new Nikon releases here. They are all over in Japan


Nov 23, 2010 at 05:30 PM
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p.6 #16 · what do you NOT like about nikon??


Noisy at high ISOs, prior to D700/D3 cameras.
Lenses and bodies insanely priced too high, especially the 1.4 wides and new 85. They've priced me out.
NX2. Sluggard, expensive and ought to be included with any prosumer or higher body. No capture software included, either.



Nov 24, 2010 at 11:00 AM
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p.6 #17 · what do you NOT like about nikon??


My only significant complaint with Nikon is there warrantee policy. The warrantees should be world wide.

My minor complaint would be around software issues.



Nov 24, 2010 at 11:53 AM
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p.6 #18 · what do you NOT like about nikon??


Mark_L wrote:
This. A new 85mm 1.4 that is twice the price of the old one? Really?


A new 85D 1.4 is $1200 at BH. A new 85G 1.4 is $1700. That's a $500 difference and hardly twice the price.

Not really a fair and equitable comparison pitting used vs new prices.




Nov 24, 2010 at 12:39 PM
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p.6 #19 · what do you NOT like about nikon??


I don't like that I don't have a 24-70.


Nov 24, 2010 at 12:40 PM
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p.6 #20 · what do you NOT like about nikon??


Rodolfo Paiz wrote:
It's great compatibility in the sense that you can continue to use older lenses on new bodies. But it's now two-way compatibility because you're right: you can't easily use new G lenses on older bodies which can't electronically set aperture on those bodies. Is there no film body that can use G lenses?


My F5 and F6 work just fine...



Nov 24, 2010 at 02:48 PM
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