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p.5 #1 · what do you NOT like about nikon??


daskibum wrote:
apparently you haven't seen the prices for the new long Canon glass.


yes but historically he is very correct. you can get an old 600mm f4.0 L with AF (EF whatever) for $3000, you get the ai-s MF super tele nikkors for more than that.



Nov 21, 2010 at 04:51 PM
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p.5 #2 · what do you NOT like about nikon??


The thing I hate the most about Nikon is the Canon FANBOYS!!!


Nov 21, 2010 at 04:52 PM
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p.5 #3 · what do you NOT like about nikon??


Availibility of their products, such as the tc 2.0 iii and their 600mm lens is an issue.


Nov 21, 2010 at 05:59 PM
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p.5 #4 · what do you NOT like about nikon??


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- Counter intuitive lens mount/unmount rotation direction.


Surely you mean "different from what I'm used to." It's very intuitive to me, but that's likely because it's what I've always used.


No, I do mean counter intuitive. As in Nikon vs. the world.



Nov 21, 2010 at 06:47 PM
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p.5 #5 · what do you NOT like about nikon??


Nikon pays thousands of dollars on focus groups for this exact type of information - can we make this thread private and try to sell it to them if they send each of us a measly 35 f/1.4?


Nov 21, 2010 at 06:58 PM
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p.5 #6 · what do you NOT like about nikon??


Can't get a D3s for $500


Nov 21, 2010 at 08:45 PM
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p.5 #7 · what do you NOT like about nikon??


The 80-400 is in dire need of a makeover.......at f2.8 with an internal motor, this would be my all time sports lens.....


Nov 21, 2010 at 11:59 PM
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p.5 #8 · what do you NOT like about nikon??


no AF motor for lower models (most annoying one to me).

position AF mode selection switch (AFS/AFC/MF)

no minor update on lens (make all lens with round blade diagram).



Nov 22, 2010 at 12:13 AM
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p.5 #9 · what do you NOT like about nikon??


I don't know why Auto ISO is not an option when I press the ISO button. I rarely use auto ISO but when I use it I want to able to turn it on /off quickly and I hate to find it in menu.




Nov 22, 2010 at 12:26 AM
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p.5 #10 · what do you NOT like about nikon??


wilsonjg wrote:
The 80-400 is in dire need of a makeover.......at f2.8 with an internal motor, this would be my all time sports lens.....


a 80-400mm 2.8? that would be monstrously big, let alone expensive.

to give an idea-

sigma 200-500 2.8--- ($28,000.00)

http://www.digitalpixels.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/sigma-200-500.jpg



Nov 22, 2010 at 12:28 AM
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ytwong wrote:
I don't know why Auto ISO is not an option when I press the ISO button. I rarely use auto ISO but when I use it I want to able to turn it on /off quickly and I hate to find it in menu.


Best thing you can do is to copy the "Auto ISO on/off" function into "My Menu". Then turning it on or off is easy and quick. Modifying its parameters still requires going into the shooting menu.



Nov 22, 2010 at 12:34 AM
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---XR--- wrote:
a 80-400mm 2.8? that would be monstrously big, let alone expensive.

to give an idea-

sigma 200-500 2.8--- ($28,000.00)

http://www.digitalpixels.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/sigma-200-500.jpg


Bill Hader?


but my gripes?

lack of 1.2 glass

no firmware update for d90

motorless bodies and no front knob on lower end models.



Nov 22, 2010 at 03:41 AM
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p.5 #13 · what do you NOT like about nikon??


jlawrence wrote:
Bill Hader?

but my gripes?

lack of 1.2 glass

no firmware update for d90

motorless bodies and no front knob on lower end models.


my favorite SNL personality, but no i don't think his arms are that large



Nov 22, 2010 at 04:42 AM
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p.5 #14 · what do you NOT like about nikon??


everything just gets heavier.


Nov 22, 2010 at 07:31 AM
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p.5 #15 · what do you NOT like about nikon??


price... but it's worth it..


Nov 22, 2010 at 07:57 AM
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p.5 #16 · what do you NOT like about nikon??


1. The AF-D 80-400 VR is so good that they have put off updating it.
Of course, I will gripe about the price when they do.
2. They refuse to give me NPS status without photos being my prime income + a referral is needed.
3. The turn around on repairs is too long.
4. NAS, quit tempting me with stuff I cannot afford and buy anyway.

Edited on Dec 05, 2010 at 12:08 AM · View previous versions



Nov 22, 2010 at 11:00 AM
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glassartist wrote:
I have a love-hate relationship with Capture NX -


Me too! Love the results. Hate everything else about it. The user interface is awful and it is sloooooooow. On an 8 core machine with 32Gb RAM I expect to see my processing results instantly. No more than a nanosecond. I don't expect to be waiting around for stuff to process. It is instant on Adobe, why not Nikon software?

Also the method of updating the Nikon software is the worst I have ever seen on any programme. Why don't they have an automatic one click update like all the other software?

I wish Nikon would just sell the secret sauce to Adobe! Focus on the cameras!



Nov 22, 2010 at 12:53 PM
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p.5 #18 · what do you NOT like about nikon??


The most cumulative thing I don't like about Nikon is how ultra-conservative the company is. Far too slow to embrace technology, to the point of stubborness. Too slow to embrace full frame digital. Too slow to accept full HD video. Too slow to accept high MP resolution.
On top of that, a proprietary attitude reflected in its pricing, especially the "tariff" to use NX2 to develop proprietary NEF files.
On top off all that, the foot dragging on product development and launching. The D7000 launch was/is a fiasco -- besides the Best Buy confusion and lack of body-only product, still no battery grip widely available, and nothing in sight on the reported SB700 flash. Some huge blunders here, that coupled with poor marketing (recent lens rebates -- after the D7000 major launch/delivery) has really caused Nikon to lose a lot of sales of peripherals.

I love the products as far as quality and imaging goes, but it is surprising the company hasn't been losing more market share to Canon than it has. I do worry about Nikon, but don't see much chance for them to change these attitudes based recent marketing and development practices. They definitely need new thinking from top to bottom on their product development and deployment.

Minor gripes:

The lens mount is counter intuitive -- most peoples screw things on clockwise, and remove counter-clockwise. This system is set up especially badly for right-handed people (the vast majority), and the index marking is on the "wrong" side of the lens/body for righties -- can't see through the lens body very well at all! The lens focus rotation is an acquired trait,but Nikon is in the minority in it's rotation direction.

On screen menus are clunky and difficult to maneuver.

I agree the focus selector is clunky and should be either on back or a simple Custom Fn change.

All in all, the attitude I find most evident makes Nikon more of a "grandpa" mentality of stubborn pride and resilience to change. I would prefer more modern and progressive thinking in product development, marketing and sales. For example, the most recent camera, the D7000 (which I own) has the second highest pixel count in all of Nikon land at 16MP! Am I the only one the sees the humor in that?

I'm 57, so when I say grandpa, I'm really talking old!

I hope for the best regarding Nikon's success, since I have a bit invested in Nikon products,but I cover my bases, since no one company can be everything to everyone.

Edited on Nov 22, 2010 at 03:04 PM · View previous versions



Nov 22, 2010 at 01:01 PM
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p.5 #19 · what do you NOT like about nikon??


andrewd01 wrote:
I wish Nikon would just sell the secret sauce to Adobe! Focus on the cameras!

I agree Nikon should focus on hardware, where their competence lies.

However, there's nothing special about Nikon's processing: it's just a combination of good demosaicking, an elevated black-point, fairly heavy noise-reduction, a few hue twists, and automatic contrast adjustments.

When Adobe's raw converter was truely horrible (pre-Lightroom 3 Beta), this was enough to make it worth putting up with Nikon's clumsy user interface. But now that Adobe has better demosaicking, better noise reduction, and good tools that offer practically infinite control over colour and contrast, I see no point in messing around with Nikon software.

Personally, I use Aperture, which has its own strengths.



Nov 22, 2010 at 01:07 PM
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---XR--- wrote:
---XR--- wrote:
a 80-400mm 2.8? that would be monstrously big, let alone expensive.

to give an idea-

sigma 200-500 2.8--- ($28,000.00)




...if Sigma can do a 120-300MM F2.8, then why can't giant Nikon make the 80-400 an F2.8.......heck I'd even be happy at F4, as long as it had an internal motor and great AF !! !! !!






Nov 22, 2010 at 01:46 PM
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