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p.5 #1Zeiss 28/2 and 35/2 comparison
bushwacker wrote:
Anyone heard from Ronny? :-)are you talking about Ronny the 85 planar guy with leaping german shepherd?
Thats the guy.
Heard he was headed for Iceland loaded with Zeiss glass.
twoeye wrote
jhg photo wrote
As Hrannar impressively showed, any Zeiss seems to work to its best as soon as it arrives in Iceland.Thats the guy.
Heard he was headed for Iceland loaded with Zeiss glass.
Oct 05, 2015 at 03:44 AM
p.5 #2Zeiss 28/2 and 35/2 comparison
twoeye wrote:
Thats the guy.
Heard he was headed for Iceland loaded with Zeiss glass.
I am sure he's going to come up with something....probably Icelandic horses or sheep. maybe those amazing falls.
Thats the guy.
Heard he was headed for Iceland loaded with Zeiss glass.
I am sure he's going to come up with something....probably Icelandic horses or sheep. maybe those amazing falls.
Oct 05, 2015 at 07:36 PM
p.5 #3Zeiss 28/2 and 35/2 comparison
Okay Iam back and please enlighten me.
This so called "HOLLYWOOD" term which zeiss lens exactly is this? Below are some conflicting infos i got from forums and blogs.
They say:
1. The real hollywood lens is the zeiss cine 27mm f2 - not sure if it exists.
2. c/y 2/28 is the real hollywood.
3. Pentax 2/28 a copy of c/y 2/28 only better.
4. Classic ze-zf 2/28 not the same as c/y 2/28.
5. Classic ze,zf 2/28 is the modern hollywood.
Now my questions is... Why the term hollywood attached to a specific 28mm lens? What's really the character of this lens?
This so called "HOLLYWOOD" term which zeiss lens exactly is this? Below are some conflicting infos i got from forums and blogs.
They say:
1. The real hollywood lens is the zeiss cine 27mm f2 - not sure if it exists.
2. c/y 2/28 is the real hollywood.
3. Pentax 2/28 a copy of c/y 2/28 only better.
4. Classic ze-zf 2/28 not the same as c/y 2/28.
5. Classic ze,zf 2/28 is the modern hollywood.
Now my questions is... Why the term hollywood attached to a specific 28mm lens? What's really the character of this lens?
Jul 11, 2017 at 06:40 AM
p.5 #4Zeiss 28/2 and 35/2 comparison
bushwacker wrote:
Okay Iam back and please enlighten me.
This so called "HOLLYWOOD" term which zeiss lens exactly is this? Below are some conflicting infos i got from forums and blogs.
They say:
1. The real hollywood lens is the zeiss cine 27mm f2 - not sure if it exists.
2. c/y 2/28 is the real hollywood.
3. Pentax 2/28 a copy of c/y 2/28 only better.
4. Classic ze-zf 2/28 not the same as c/y 2/28.
5. Classic ze,zf 2/28 is the modern hollywood.
Now my questions is... Why the term hollywood attached to a specific 28mm lens? What's really the character of this lens?
Some links:
Review of the Contax C/Y Distagon 28/2 by Jannik Peters
Article about the Pentax version
Forum thread about the Pentax version
I bought my copy of the Contax Distagon 28/2 solely to make the kind of images Jannik Peters describes in his review: "The dreamy bokeh wide open, the field curvature which reduces the depth of field towards the corners, the good close-up performance, the great colors and the good flare resistance make this lens predestined for close-up wideangle photography with shallow depth of field."
https://d1u92k3d1w68j5.cloudfront.net/photos/flowers-trees/jd-20170701-165344-3377-a7rIIb-copy01-w1159bc.jpg
https://d1u92k3d1w68j5.cloudfront.net/photos/flowers-trees/jd-20170622-171026-3252-a7rIIb-copy02-w1200bc.jpg
Okay Iam back and please enlighten me.
This so called "HOLLYWOOD" term which zeiss lens exactly is this? Below are some conflicting infos i got from forums and blogs.
They say:
1. The real hollywood lens is the zeiss cine 27mm f2 - not sure if it exists.
2. c/y 2/28 is the real hollywood.
3. Pentax 2/28 a copy of c/y 2/28 only better.
4. Classic ze-zf 2/28 not the same as c/y 2/28.
5. Classic ze,zf 2/28 is the modern hollywood.
Now my questions is... Why the term hollywood attached to a specific 28mm lens? What's really the character of this lens?
Some links:
Review of the Contax C/Y Distagon 28/2 by Jannik Peters
Article about the Pentax version
Forum thread about the Pentax version
I bought my copy of the Contax Distagon 28/2 solely to make the kind of images Jannik Peters describes in his review: "The dreamy bokeh wide open, the field curvature which reduces the depth of field towards the corners, the good close-up performance, the great colors and the good flare resistance make this lens predestined for close-up wideangle photography with shallow depth of field."
https://d1u92k3d1w68j5.cloudfront.net/photos/flowers-trees/jd-20170701-165344-3377-a7rIIb-copy01-w1159bc.jpg
https://d1u92k3d1w68j5.cloudfront.net/photos/flowers-trees/jd-20170622-171026-3252-a7rIIb-copy02-w1200bc.jpg
Jul 11, 2017 at 07:35 AM
p.5 #5Zeiss 28/2 and 35/2 comparison
bushwacker wrote:
Now my questions is... Why the term hollywood attached to a specific 28mm lens? What's really the character of this lens?
That's two questions. Here's what I have on the first one.
From the Contax 28mm f/2 review at PeeblePlace,
"The Contax 28mm F2 Distagon’s optical formula is based on a Zeiss 28mm cinematic lens. The cinematic lens design was subsequently adapted for 35mm SLR use, so sometimes the 28mm F2 Distagon is referred to as the “Hollywood 28”. One of the key features of the 28mm F2 Distagon is the floating element design which provides significantly better near field performance and a short minimum focus distance."
Ref. Peeble Place review,
- http://www.pebbleplace.com/reviews/slr/contax_28mm/index.html
It's quite possible that the Cine 27/2 is the same lens, as cine folks seem to be more particular about having exact numerical values, rather than a "where it fits in the lineup" labeling approach. If the Cine 27/2 and Contax 28/2 are the same, then this suggests that the f-stop and t-stop values are both 2, which is certainly possible, but not very common.
The SMC Pentax 28/2 has the same optical formula as the Contax 28/2, and was developed as part of a brief and informal partnership between Zeiss and Asahi Optical (i.e. Pentax).
Ref. Zeiss/Asahi project,
- http://forum.mflenses.com/poor-mans-zeiss-distagon-28mm-f-2-hollywood-t16851.html
I think the SMC Pentax should be called the "Vancouver", since that's "Hollywood North".
Here's a comparison of optical diagrams for the Contax 28/2 and SMCP 28/2,
optical diagrams compared, https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1262226/0#12020514
Ref. Contax data sheet (Zeiss),
- https://www.zeiss.com/content/dam/camera-lenses/files/service/download-center/datasheets/historical-lenses/contax-yashica/datasheet-zeiss-distagon-228-en.pdf
Ref. Pentax data sheet (Boz Dimitrov),
- http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/lenses/primes/wide-angle/K28f2.html
Now my questions is... Why the term hollywood attached to a specific 28mm lens? What's really the character of this lens?
That's two questions. Here's what I have on the first one.
From the Contax 28mm f/2 review at PeeblePlace,
"The Contax 28mm F2 Distagon’s optical formula is based on a Zeiss 28mm cinematic lens. The cinematic lens design was subsequently adapted for 35mm SLR use, so sometimes the 28mm F2 Distagon is referred to as the “Hollywood 28”. One of the key features of the 28mm F2 Distagon is the floating element design which provides significantly better near field performance and a short minimum focus distance."
Ref. Peeble Place review,
- http://www.pebbleplace.com/reviews/slr/contax_28mm/index.html
It's quite possible that the Cine 27/2 is the same lens, as cine folks seem to be more particular about having exact numerical values, rather than a "where it fits in the lineup" labeling approach. If the Cine 27/2 and Contax 28/2 are the same, then this suggests that the f-stop and t-stop values are both 2, which is certainly possible, but not very common.
The SMC Pentax 28/2 has the same optical formula as the Contax 28/2, and was developed as part of a brief and informal partnership between Zeiss and Asahi Optical (i.e. Pentax).
Ref. Zeiss/Asahi project,
- http://forum.mflenses.com/poor-mans-zeiss-distagon-28mm-f-2-hollywood-t16851.html
I think the SMC Pentax should be called the "Vancouver", since that's "Hollywood North".
Here's a comparison of optical diagrams for the Contax 28/2 and SMCP 28/2,
optical diagrams compared, https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1262226/0#12020514
Ref. Contax data sheet (Zeiss),
- https://www.zeiss.com/content/dam/camera-lenses/files/service/download-center/datasheets/historical-lenses/contax-yashica/datasheet-zeiss-distagon-228-en.pdf
Ref. Pentax data sheet (Boz Dimitrov),
- http://www.bdimitrov.de/kmp/lenses/primes/wide-angle/K28f2.html
Jul 11, 2017 at 08:10 AM
p.5 #6Zeiss 28/2 and 35/2 comparison
genji wrote:
bushwacker wrote
Okay Iam back and please enlighten me.This so called "HOLLYWOOD" term which zeiss lens exactly is this? Below are some conflicting infos i got from forums and blogs.
They say:
1. The real hollywood lens is the zeiss cine 27mm f2 - not sure if it exists.
2. c/y 2/28 is the real hollywood.
3. Pentax 2/28 a copy of c/y 2/28 only better.
4. Classic ze-zf 2/28 not the same as c/y 2/28.
5. Classic ze,zf 2/28 is the modern hollywood.
Now my questions is... Why the term hollywood attached to a specific 28mm lens? What's really the character of this lens?
Review of the Contax C/Y Distagon 28/2 by Jannik Peters
Article about the Pentax version
Forum thread about the Pentax version
I bought my copy of the Contax Distagon 28/2 solely to make the kind of images Jannik Peters describes in his review: "The dreamy bokeh wide open, the field curvature which reduces the depth of field towards the corners, the good close-up performance, the great colors and the good flare resistance make this lens predestined for close-up wideangle photography with shallow depth of field."
https://d1u92k3d1w68j5.cloudfront.net/photos/flowers-trees/jd-20170701-165344-3377-a7rIIb-copy01-w1159bc.jpg
https://d1u92k3d1w68j5.cloudfront.net/photos/flowers-trees/jd-20170622-171026-3252-a7rIIb-copy02-w1200bc.jpg
tnx man
Jul 11, 2017 at 12:46 PM
p.5 #7Zeiss 28/2 and 35/2 comparison
jcolwell wrote:
bushwacker wrote
Now my questions is... Why the term hollywood attached to a specific 28mm lens? What's really the character of this lens?From the Contax 28mm f/2 review at PeeblePlace,
"The Contax 28mm F2 Distagon’s optical formula is based on a Zeiss 28mm cinematic lens. The cinematic lens design was subsequently adapted for 35mm SLR use, so sometimes the 28mm F2 Distagon is referred to as the “Hollywood 28”. One of the key features of the 28mm F2 Distagon is the floating element design which provides significantly better near field performance and a short minimum focus distance."
Ref. Peeble Place review,
- http://www.pebbleplace.com/reviews/slr/contax_28mm/index.html
It's quite possible that the Cine 27/2 is the same...Show more →
i will read these.. Thanks very much.
Jul 11, 2017 at 12:47 PM
p.5 #8Zeiss 28/2 and 35/2 comparison
OneAnt wrote:
I don't know why you lads are having so much trouble telling the zf35 from the 28 ...the 35 is for the head, the 28 is for the heart. And for those that think the zf35 is a close enough approximation to 28mm, it's not.
I have both, I like the 35 but I love the 28.
My experience is identical to this.
I don't know why you lads are having so much trouble telling the zf35 from the 28 ...the 35 is for the head, the 28 is for the heart. And for those that think the zf35 is a close enough approximation to 28mm, it's not.
I have both, I like the 35 but I love the 28.
My experience is identical to this.
Jul 11, 2017 at 09:56 PM