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Archive 2010Useless Exercise, Part Deux
p.4 #1Useless Exercise, Part Deux
Have a look at the old photodo.com MTF measurements. The Nikkor is very good:
http://www.magezinepublishing.com/equipment/images/equipment/105mm-f25-379/large/NIF10525.gif
Here's Canon's relatively modern EF 100 mm f/2 EF by comparison:
http://www.magezinepublishing.com/equipment/images/equipment/EF-100mm-f20-USM-30/large/CAEF1002USM.gif
And the EF 135 mm f/2 L (a very special lens optically, by all accounts):
http://www.magezinepublishing.com/equipment/images/equipment/EF-135mm-f20L-USM-35/large/CAEF1352L.gif
http://www.magezinepublishing.com/equipment/images/equipment/105mm-f25-379/large/NIF10525.gif
Here's Canon's relatively modern EF 100 mm f/2 EF by comparison:
http://www.magezinepublishing.com/equipment/images/equipment/EF-100mm-f20-USM-30/large/CAEF1002USM.gif
And the EF 135 mm f/2 L (a very special lens optically, by all accounts):
http://www.magezinepublishing.com/equipment/images/equipment/EF-135mm-f20L-USM-35/large/CAEF1352L.gif
Sep 28, 2010 at 12:26 PM
p.4 #2Useless Exercise, Part Deux
Ha! I knew it!
Well... don't that just beat all. Thanks again Todd. Meaningless or not it's fun to see what you can do given the right conditions.
Well... don't that just beat all. Thanks again Todd. Meaningless or not it's fun to see what you can do given the right conditions.
Sep 28, 2010 at 12:31 PM
p.4 #3Useless Exercise, Part Deux
Todd Adamson wrote:
;- )
In fact, I should probably talk to you about that -- I've been thinking of picking one up for a lightweight hiking tele.Buy it. I'll include a $5 gift certificate for Dairy Queen. 
That definitely makes it more tempting. I loves me a Peanut Buster Parfait....
Smiert Spionam wrote
Todd, since I've already got a 105/2.5, you can send me that 200/4 for my prize, if it's still available.;- )
In fact, I should probably talk to you about that -- I've been thinking of picking one up for a lightweight hiking tele.
That definitely makes it more tempting. I loves me a Peanut Buster Parfait....
Sep 28, 2010 at 12:36 PM
p.4 #4Useless Exercise, Part Deux
Nice to see that the bokeh of the Zeiss really stands out. Well, at least imho.
Thanks Todd for your time and effort. It has helped me to gain more insight into the charactersitics of some of the lenses. Alweays good to know!
Roger.
Thanks Todd for your time and effort. It has helped me to gain more insight into the charactersitics of some of the lenses. Alweays good to know!
Roger.
Sep 29, 2010 at 01:45 AM
p.4 #5Useless Exercise, Part Deux
I love it! I'm late to the game after six days of relatives visiting from out of town, but this is precisely the comparison I was encouraging you to make. As I read folks "educated" guesses, which were all over the place, I was musing about a $200 lens being favorably compared with two lenses that cost over a thousand dollars more. Nikon shooters really are blessed to have these outstanding old lenses available to mount on our cameras. I took five MF lenses and NO AF lenses during my recent trip to the Netherlands and had a glorious time shooting. The D700 makes shooting manual focus a joy! Putting a 28-70 f/2.8 on my camera on Sunday was almost painful, but it was what the occasion called for.
Thanks Todd for giving us all the opportunity to consider this old gem. And thanks to all the FMers who spoke so highly of this lens in the past. It was my first MF purchase and will likely remain in my kit so long as I shoot Nikon...
Thanks Todd for giving us all the opportunity to consider this old gem. And thanks to all the FMers who spoke so highly of this lens in the past. It was my first MF purchase and will likely remain in my kit so long as I shoot Nikon...
Sep 29, 2010 at 05:57 PM
p.4 #6Useless Exercise, Part Deux
I too got here too late, after the answers had been posted, but made my guesses anyway:
A) Zeiss
B) 105mm
C) Zoom
The interesting thing for me is that I liked C the least. This is the second time I do a blind test and turn out to like the Zeiss the least. I don't own any Zeiss lenses but have been wanting to get one since they are so highly praised. Now I'm beginning to wonder if I shouldn't just stick with what I have. After all, I'm really happy with it and I'm probably not good enough to appreciate the Zeiss greatness.
A) Zeiss
B) 105mm
C) Zoom
The interesting thing for me is that I liked C the least. This is the second time I do a blind test and turn out to like the Zeiss the least. I don't own any Zeiss lenses but have been wanting to get one since they are so highly praised. Now I'm beginning to wonder if I shouldn't just stick with what I have. After all, I'm really happy with it and I'm probably not good enough to appreciate the Zeiss greatness.
Oct 01, 2010 at 03:32 AM
p.4 #7Useless Exercise, Part Deux
Helena, on this set the focus is probably furthest back on the Zeiss image, which has a lot to do with the look. I would look at more images before deciding something like that. There is a huge Zeiss thread on nikoncafe with loads of photos from the 100MP, and there are also quite a lot around here, although more scattered.
Oct 01, 2010 at 02:58 PM