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blackbird3216 wrote:
One Ant, what focal length was that on? I'm mostly shooting at 28mm, so that might be the difference. I don't know the technique to get up close without them noticing. Especially with people right in front of you. Like the one with the daughter/father, how would it have been possible for him not to notice? I'm mean, thats pretty much impossible. I was right in front of him, and I raised my camera, so of course he would notice.
The father/daughter, Im not sure its one I would have taken but if there was some kind of interaction, Id be manipulating them a bit to get what I wanted, some you interact some you are unseen, its just the way the games are played.
Im 20mm through to 100 on DX, but with the 100 I like to get in close so dont confuse FL with distance to subject, I use the 100 like you would your 28. The pic 'smooch' Im 100mm and about 2ft away and they didnt even see me, I showed them the pic afterward and Im even closer than your father/daughter pic. 'still life' is 28mm so you know Im right in front of her, enough to do full body in portrait. 'monsters' well you can see he is stepping out of frame so he has to be close and again it is the 100 (closest I got is about 6" to someone looking at me, they stepped into my shot) I am really relaxed but have to get through a warm up period first. I sit and watch for a long time, its weird but once I see something worth a pic then it keeps going till sundown. Also Im in Australia so the distance between opportunities is much less. I tend to see the scene before it unfolds and move to a spot where I know I can compose and have the subject where I want them, you might be going to them whereas mine are coming to me and sometime I move to make them change direction.
I seemingly shoot past the subject, or look past them when I move the camera from my face, sometimes when I know a person has changed direction and I know they will turn back, Im there. I have a fairly infectious smile, sometimes thats enough if Im caught out, and get some nice reactions.
Mostly I get into the pace and mood of the person Im shooting and just put myself where I need to be. I move slowly too and tend to look as though Im preoccupied but not with them.
The 'still life' example seeing you and I like 28mm. I snapped off 4 before she realised it was her I was shooting, in that last pic I got she is looking right at me, still working out what I am doing and I have another 2 of her looking behind to see what I was taking a pic of. Even funnier is that her boyfriend is just out of shot to the right, even he was looking about trying to work out what I was doing. This happens a lot.
So many ways to do it, even pretending its someone else you are aiming for.
Im manual focus lenses and I think that has a lot to do with it, I dont focus on the subject and recompose, I dont suffer focus shift and I can even prefocus by using something else at the same distance then swinging to the subject. I do that one a lot, a pole a tree but mostly another person. The other difference is Im all primes, I know where I need to be to compose and like I said, never crop. I think these must be the difference.
If the subject is busy (grin) then they wont see you, I have about 10 of these two and my fav is this last one where he sees me and I get a grin....
looking past (thats not me in her reflection and Im about two bum widths away.....
She turned to look at something so I stood behind her, focused on the back of her hair and waited for her to turn ...
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. I can't do it discretely. I guess that is something you learn over time. 
Its the same thing with headphones. I always notice what kind people are using, and if they are any good. 
