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I have no pics to post today. Sorry.

We did get out into the woods again today, spent 6 miles walking through snow-covered trails I tried to do a comparison of my old 50mm f/1.4 with the 55mm f/3.5 but formed no conclusions. When the 50mm is wide open the clarity decreases and some vignetting happens. But with the Z5-II, shooting wide open isn't necessary because it runs the ISO higher. At smaller apertures the 50mm has no trouble. For longer range the 55 may be sharper but maybe not. When I focused on a tree 15 ft away with f/11 (IIRC) the 50mm was awesomely sharp, the 55mm no better. I couldn't say whether the bokeh was better or worse with either for a real-life picture.

On the other hand the f ranges are different, the 55mm's aperture being smaller but the 50mm handling lower light (even if not necessary). For most shooting I don't know which I'd choose. Must try again.



Dec 28, 2025 at 05:35 PM
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Here's a few 20/2.8 ai-s - shot with Df


DF_20251228_BLX_6728.jpg by -Morten-, on Flickr


DF_20251228_BLX_6719.jpg by -Morten-, on Flickr


DF_20251228_BLX_6694.jpg by -Morten-, on Flickr


DF_20251228_BLX_6684.jpg by -Morten-, on Flickr


DF_20251228_BLX_6685.jpg by -Morten-, on Flickr



Dec 29, 2025 at 04:13 AM
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I picked up a few classic nikon lenses but I don't have experience in how they're supposed to feel and wanted to check with folks here.
I understand they're quite old at this point. I tried to get the highest serial numbers and best condition I could find.

My 50mm f1.4 AIS focus ring is so easy to turn, I worry when I let go of the ring that the focus will move from where I left it - it doesn't seem to, but it's probably close.
There's almost no dampening. Very different to the 50mm f1.4 AI, which is quite slow but not stiff.
I read on Ken Rockwell the 50/1.4 AIS is turnable with just one finger and that's true but it does seem a bit too easy to turn.

My 35mm f1.4 AIS is nicely dampened without being tight, and is a smaller lens than I was expecting but when doing the smallest microadjustment like you would everytime you confirm focus, there's like a very slight travel before it engages with the change of direction - about 0.5mm. Quite annoying when checking focus by going over and under and few times. You can feel and see it by trying to turn it the absolute smallest amount back and forth.

While I appreciate the improvement over the 50mm f1.4 AFD in terms of focus feel, they don't seem to be without issues themselves. The 35/1.4 being particularly cumbersome in-use. Perhaps my copies aren't representative?
The 50mm f1.2 should be here later today but those were the two I was most looking forward to using regularly with the fm2n, which I've been preferring over digital recently.

I've noticed with both of them, that if I don't use the grip but closer to the aperture ring, the problems aren't as bad so perhaps it's common to do large changes with the rubber grip and then slide down closer to the silver ring for the micro-adjustments? It is textured there but seems a bit unusual to need to do.

Perhaps they just all need some servicing? I'm not really sure who to take them to in the UK. It seems quite complicated to repair properly, especially with the 35mm.
It actually seems like every single camera/lens older than 15 years old that I've bought could do with a service, and the shops here seem don't seem to be as prevalent as maybe they were a decade ago.

Might be time to start learning repairs but making markings to remember the orientation and spacing....doesn't seem very sound.
Let's see, it's worth figuring out as I plan to keep these for the long term, and maybe the 24/28/85/105 too (those 20mm shots above look great though).
But with every additional purhcase I'm now less hopeful about avoiding even a small headache. Need to factor in repairs ontop of the price, even with these "top mint" items on ebay.

Probably not very relevant for you folks who've been nursing your copies for decades. But I think with film making a bit of a comeback the last few years, these lenses might start gaining in popularity again. Particularly because of the reliability of some of the older nikon cameras, they might be the only 35mm film cameras that still work that aren't Leicas in 10-20 more years. A bit nicer character on the 35, and also the 50 for my taste but I can appreciate the sharpness of the Leicas too.

I like the lenses quite a bit other than these possibly age related build issues. And I'm bracing myself for the build quality of the shortly arriving mir 24h (35/2 nikon f mount Russian lens, a Zeiss f2.8 inspired lens from what I've read with a massive focus throw, but smooth bokeh).



-- luckily, both the 50/1.2 and mir 24h lenses are fine.
I thought the mir had the same issue as the 35/1.4 ais with the wobble when changing focus direction but it's just a longer throw. It's actually a very good size too. And the 50/1.2 isn't particularly big either, just a bit dense. 35/1.4 ais is less dense but longer, but completely fine. I was worried about that one. I usually carry one lens on a body in a small camera bag that opens easily, rather than around my neck.

Mir seems like it's easier to focus with the longer smooth throw, but a little boring (but safer) rendering, very nice compact design. 35mm f1.4 render is fun though, I'm smiling just trying it on digital.

Maybe the 85 ais sometime next year for some nice film portraits.



Dec 29, 2025 at 05:03 AM
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Df + 24/f2 AIS








Dec 29, 2025 at 10:51 AM
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AdaptedLenses wrote:
Sage advice. Seen today with the 300mm. Light was uninteresting when I walked away from the car but you never know what you’ll see.



Great capture Matt, subtle colors, great light, and the birds seal the deal.

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DeltaSigma wrote:
A while back I said I would compare the 85/1.8 H against the F-mount f/1.8 G version and a third-parry f/2 Z-mount version.

To me, the MF H version holds up pretty well.
The bokeh balls are tighter and less opaque with cat's eyes forming closer to the centre of the image.

Focus at infinity. Xmas tree 5m away.
Top: Viltrox 85/2 EVO at f/2
Mid: Nikon 85/1.8 G at f/1.8
Bot: Nikon 85/1.8 H at f/1.8
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55008598050_c0cb0f4192_h.jpgInfinity Focus Comparison - Nikon 85mm lenses by Colin McIntosh, on Flickr

Focus at minimum. Xmas tree 5m away.
Top: Viltrox 85/2 EVO at f/2
Mid: Nikon 85/1.8 G at
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No offense, all needed to compare the traits of the 85H. I agree, the H holds up well.

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saph wrote:
Happy holiday time to the gang here!

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55008699641_76d36332b6_b.jpgMyrtleBeachPierSunRise by Maryland Photos, on Flickr

Nikon ZR, PC-Nikkor 28mm f/3.5 (the only manual Nikkor lens on this trip!!!), at Myrtle Beach, South Carolina.


Nice capture Samy, good to see pics from you again.

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SiMuMe wrote:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55009838131_593e495fa2_o.jpg

AI Micro NIKKOR 55mm f/2.8S + D780 | F4


Really like this shot a lot, the colors and the soft surrounds work great Siphiwe.




Dec 29, 2025 at 11:34 AM
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p.2563 #6 · Manual Focus Nikon Glass


jimmuller wrote:
I have no pics to post today. Sorry.

We did get out into the woods again today, spent 6 miles walking through snow-covered trails I tried to do a comparison of my old 50mm f/1.4 with the 55mm f/3.5 but formed no conclusions. When the 50mm is wide open the clarity decreases and some vignetting happens. But with the Z5-II, shooting wide open isn't necessary because it runs the ISO higher. At smaller apertures the 50mm has no trouble. For longer range the 55 may be sharper but maybe not. When I focused on a tree 15 ft away with f/11
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Jim, I have a 50 f1.4 AI and a 55 mm f2.8 AIS. Your findings seem similar to mine, the 1.4 needs stopping down to sharpen up, though I don't think my copy of the 1.4 really catches up to the 55mm. I carry the 50 when I want to shoot larger apertures, otherwise I typically will take the 55mm out.

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BLLX wrote:
Here's a few 20/2.8 ai-s - shot with Df

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55010577932_f05d9aed35_b.jpg
DF_20251228_BLX_6728.jpg by -Morten-, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55011643453_2d09401265_b.jpg
DF_20251228_BLX_6719.jpg by -Morten-, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55011643568_727070d86d_b.jpg
DF_20251228_BLX_6694.jpg by -Morten-, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55011643713_9316dbedb9_b.jpg
DF_20251228_BLX_6684.jpg by -Morten-, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55011468096_6a56376b7e_b.jpg
DF_20251228_BLX_6685.jpg by -Morten-, on Flickr


Continuing to enjoy the color palette that your shots exhibit Morten, great post-processing.

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Yogifi wrote:
I picked up a few classic nikon lenses but I don't have experience in how they're supposed to feel and wanted to check with folks here.
I understand they're quite old at this point. I tried to get the highest serial numbers and best condition I could find.

My 50mm f1.4 AIS focus ring is so easy to turn, I worry when I let go of the ring that the focus will move from where I left it - it doesn't seem to, but it's probably close.
There's almost no dampening. Very different to the 50mm f1.4 AI, which is
...Show more

Congrats on the new MF glass. In my collection of MF glass, all the things you said about the MF lenses apply to one lens or another. I'll add another one, I've had a 55mm micro seize up so badly that it was essentially unusable. Still trying to work up the courage and spend some $$ to get some basic tools to open that one up.

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lirain wrote:
Df + 24/f2 AIS

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55012248658_c822cbf94c_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55012248653_812aa4f253_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55012248633_5ef6ff97be_b.jpg


Very nice winter captures, especially the third shot. Love that warm brown contrast.




Dec 29, 2025 at 11:42 AM
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Sounds like they may need to be relubed. Over time the grease can dry and become very lose or harden and make focusing very tough to turn.

Different lenses have different lengths of focus throw, but the difference in feel has been pretty subtle, not as drastic as you seem to describe. All decent lenses I’ve had have been smooth with enough resistance to stay put. A couple of zooms (Series E 75-150 comes to mind) have been a bit looser over all, but within similar high end primes you shouldn’t feel much difference for a properly lubed lens.

Yogifi wrote:
I picked up a few classic nikon lenses but I don't have experience in how they're supposed to feel and wanted to check with folks here.
I understand they're quite old at this point. I tried to get the highest serial numbers and best condition I could find.

My 50mm f1.4 AIS focus ring is so easy to turn, I worry when I let go of the ring that the focus will move from where I left it - it doesn't seem to, but it's probably close.
There's almost no dampening. Very different to the 50mm f1.4 AI, which is
...Show more




Dec 29, 2025 at 12:05 PM
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pbraymond wrote:
Congrats on the new MF glass. In my collection of MF glass, all the things you said about the MF lenses apply to one lens or another. I'll add another one, I've had a 55mm micro seize up so badly that it was essentially unusable. Still trying to work up the courage and spend some $$ to get some basic tools to open that one up.



Thank you very much! I am quite pleased. Usually get a bit cautious with new purchases, especially when used.

I've got the 50/1.2 on one fm2n and the 35/1.4 on the other backup / alternative film / distributed wear body, ready for some use and I'm excited about it. Though I think the FM2ns also need a repair (one for the viewfinder detachment, and the other might just need a topup).

I'll get there with all these fixes Hopefully keep them running smooth for another few decades with the worst of it being this initial upfront cost.



AdaptedLenses wrote:
Sounds like they may need to be relubed. Over time the grease can dry and become very lose or harden and make focusing very tough to turn.

Different lenses have different lengths of focus throw, but the difference in feel has been pretty subtle, not as drastic as you seem to describe. All decent lenses I’ve had have been smooth with enough resistance to stay put. A couple of zooms (Series E 75-150 comes to mind) have been a bit looser over all, but within similar high end primes you shouldn’t feel much difference for a properly lubed lens.



^ Have you tried the 50mm f1.4 AIS? It's just I read that that specific model was very easy to turn, I'm just not sure it should be quite this easy.

Some grease that adds dampening sounds like it would help improve the feel, if anyone has any recommendations for that I'd appreciate it.

On the 35mm I suspect it might be a loose screw as the feel in general is very nice and similar to the 50/1.2, it's just that initial budge seems a touch loose, but it's so minor and it has that CRC so I wonder if it's just how it is maybe. It's very slight with the initial change in focus direction for micro adjustment - it's just that's something I do quite often to confirm focus.

None of them are stiff at least and all very usable, I am happy to have them - but if something is not as it should be I'd rather address it than let things get worse. I just have no idea what should be what. A trip to a physical shop is probably in order if none of this sounds familiar for those specific models.

Only the Helios lenses I've felt were stiff or not quite right. 44M/44-2 one of those. Both rather cheap, it's why I was worried about the mir 24h but that came from the "worse" factory, and feels quite a bit better (and is priced differently too) - though doesn't seem perfect on the aperture ring.



Dec 29, 2025 at 12:47 PM
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I would be wary of anyone’s comments on a sample of one, including mine. But I’ve probably handled and shot a 100 different Nikkors over the years, so it’s based on those generalities.

What you’re describing sounds like a bit of mechanical slop and / or lube issues. It’s hard to say 100% without feeling it myself. What I’ve shot in good repair has a decent (and consistent) feel. These lenses are 40 years old now though, no telling what’s been disassembled, cleaned, relubed etc. Doesn’t mean they won’t be good shooters, or you should even worry it might get worse (it probably won’t) just that they are old lenses and may have minor issues. If the images look good, keep shooting. If you want to get them worked on, then it’s a novel endeavor, especially if they’re clean copies otherwise.

Yogifi wrote:
Thank you very much! I am quite pleased. Usually get a bit cautious with new purchases, especially when used.

I've got the 50/1.2 on one fm2n and the 35/1.4 on the other backup / alternative film / distributed wear body, ready for some use and I'm excited about it. Though I think the FM2ns also need a repair (one for the viewfinder detachment, and the other might just need a topup).

I'll get there with all these fixes Hopefully keep them running smooth for another few decades with the worst of it being this initial upfront cost.


^ Have you
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Dec 29, 2025 at 01:16 PM
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I am in the UK, based near London
6 or 7 years ago I used Fixation in Vauxhall to CLA a 135/2.8 AI-S.
The elements were cleaned and the helicoids re-lubed. I don't think the service costs were worth it on that lens.
However, I do have a beautifully dampened 135/2.8 to use as a benchmark...
Subsequent to that endeavour I obtained the tools and grease to do my own.
I have only worked on a 'donor' 50/2 H so far. One day I will give the others the same TLC.

Colin


Yogifi wrote:
I picked up a few classic nikon lenses but I don't have experience in how they're supposed to feel and wanted to check with folks here.
I understand they're quite old at this point. I tried to get the highest serial numbers and best condition I could find.

My 50mm f1.4 AIS focus ring is so easy to turn, I worry when I let go of the ring that the focus will move from where I left it - it doesn't seem to, but it's probably close.
There's almost no dampening. Very different to the 50mm f1.4 AI, which is
...Show more




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Very nice winter captures, especially the third shot. Love that warm brown contrast.



Thank you Ray!



Dec 29, 2025 at 02:41 PM
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DeltaSigma wrote:
I am in the UK, based near London
6 or 7 years ago I used Fixation in Vauxhall to CLA a 135/2.8 AI-S.
The elements were cleaned and the helicoids re-lubed. I don't think the service costs were worth it on that lens.
However, I do have a beautifully dampened 135/2.8 to use as a benchmark...
Subsequent to that endeavour I obtained the tools and grease to do my own.
I have only worked on a 'donor' 50/2 H so far. One day I will give the others the same TLC.

Colin


Thank you, brilliant, fixation were the ones I was looking at as they're listed on the Nikon website though they do mention no parts available for some of these AIS lenses and support seems to be dwindling for them, the 35/1.4 ais isn't even listed though the f2 is.
And I don't think their pricing is going to make all that much sense to get a bunch of them done specifically for "peace of mind". I'd probably be more worried about sending it in as they barely refer to AIS lenses on their website (now), whereas they highlight... sensor cleaning.
I also wonder how long it's been since they last serviced some of these lenses, employees retire and swap over etc.
On the other hand it might also take an entire afternoon to get this done for one of them, though I'd probably pick a few things up that would help for the next one.


If you wouldn't mind letting me know about the grease you got and how it affected dampening on your 50/2 H? I guess it's tough to know for sure how it would affect a different model but it's a starting point. I can practice on the 50/1.4 AI which does feel a little slow to turn, but not stiff.

I know lithium is quite popular generally (for not interfering with the outer plastic I think), though I read comments here and there about it affecting copper (might be only certain formulas). I've also seen references specifically to dampening grease but people don't usually specify brands and items.



Dec 29, 2025 at 02:49 PM
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Yogifi wrote:
...Have you tried the 50mm f1.4 AIS? It's just I read that that specific model was very easy to turn, I'm just not sure it should be quite this easy.


FWIW and it may be completely different, but the focus ring on my 50mm f/1.4 "S-C Auto" (which I've owned for..mumble mumble 50 years) has always been easy to turn.

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Dec 29, 2025 at 03:53 PM
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pbraymond wrote:
Jim, I have a 50 f1.4 AI and a 55 mm f2.8 AIS. Your findings seem similar to mine, the 1.4 needs stopping down to sharpen up, though I don't think my copy of the 1.4 really catches up to the 55mm. I carry the 50 when I want to shoot larger apertures, otherwise I typically will take the 55mm out.


Thank you for the confirmation. Until I got the Z5II I never noticed the weaknesses in the 50mm. I was shooting slides so I might not have noticed anyway, but I rarely used the 1.4 aperture, if ever. The salesman at the camera shop (in 1972 or 1973) had suggested either the 1.4 or 2.0. I opted for the 1.4 for possible indoor shots, but then mostly shot landscapes.

(Historical footnote: I carried that Nikkormat FTn on a bike tour once, probably 1974, and got caught in rain. Mechanically it was fine but the hinge on the back rusted and the back bent when I opened it. I took the camera to the shop and they sent it away somewhere for repair. A week or two later they called me but when I went to pick it up they had had a break-in the night before and my Nikkormat was one of the items taken. So they gave me a new Nikkormat FTn and lens. Nikon had made minor improvements to the body and the new lens was multi-coated. I was always happy with it. And apparently oblivious too!)



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Yogifi wrote:
Thank you, brilliant, fixation were the ones I was looking at as they're listed on the Nikon website though they do mention no parts available for some of these AIS lenses and support seems to be dwindling for them, the 35/1.4 ais isn't even listed though the f2 is.
And I don't think their pricing is going to make all that much sense to get a bunch of them done specifically for "peace of mind". I'd probably be more worried about sending it in as they barely refer to AIS lenses on their website (now), whereas they highlight... sensor cleaning.
I
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I sourced MicroLubrol Helimax-XP Camera Telescope Optical Instrument Helicoid Grease w/PTFE

If you are not aware of Richard Haw's website then you should pop over to https://richardhaw.com/
He does some amazing work on documenting Nikon lens overhauls.
You will find everything you need to know from THE expert.






Dec 29, 2025 at 06:37 PM
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Such wonderful colors, especially the last two.

lirain wrote:
Df + 24/f2 AIS

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55012248658_c822cbf94c_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55012248653_812aa4f253_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55012248633_5ef6ff97be_b.jpg




Dec 29, 2025 at 07:26 PM
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Was playing around at the end of October trying to convert an old Voigtländer 6x9cm Bessa I folding camera into a Xpan format camera. Like a poor man's version of the expensive Hasselblad XPan. To support the 35mm film across the vast 6x9cm opening - I purchased 1mm thick crystal clear Plexi which is held in place with two tiny smears of contact cement. No damage to the camera if removed. It worked but it needs refining. To get the Plexi I was required to purchase 10 sheets. Today I played with one of the left over sheets. Have plans on two more photo shoots utilizing more of the left overs.





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theopwildebeest wrote:
Such wonderful colors, especially the last two.



Thank you very much!



Dec 30, 2025 at 01:08 AM
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BLLX wrote:
Here's a few 20/2.8 ai-s - shot with Df

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55010577932_f05d9aed35_b.jpg
DF_20251228_BLX_6728.jpg by -Morten-, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55011643453_2d09401265_b.jpg
DF_20251228_BLX_6719.jpg by -Morten-, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55011643568_727070d86d_b.jpg
DF_20251228_BLX_6694.jpg by -Morten-, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55011643713_9316dbedb9_b.jpg
DF_20251228_BLX_6684.jpg by -Morten-, on Flickr

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55011468096_6a56376b7e_b.jpg
DF_20251228_BLX_6685.jpg by -Morten-, on Flickr


Beautiful colours here, as usual.



Dec 30, 2025 at 01:48 AM
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lirain wrote:
Df + 24/f2 AIS

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55012248658_c822cbf94c_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55012248653_812aa4f253_b.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/55012248633_5ef6ff97be_b.jpg


I like the processing here. Scenes look cold but the processing makes it nicely warm.



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