James Markus wrote:
Going over some of my first IR photos with the 665nm converted 5D. First image is the 55mm f3.5 ai - next three are the 16mm f3.5 ai.
Question for the this group. I posted this over on the "People" forum, but maybe I'd have more luck in this one. Maybe there are those out there (George?) who have really embraced the "Manual "method - all the way back to Deguerrotypes?
Is there anyone on here actually is doing Daguerrotype these days?
I have often thought about learning this process. However it is very chemical intensive and it seems like you need your own lab down in the dungeon of your castle to do these. Being a retired science faculty, I had thought about approaching the art dept at my old college to see if I could get some space for this and then offer a class on it. However, at this point, I don't really know the ins and outs of producing deguerrotypes. I came across this old (2013) video on Petapixel that sparked my interest again:
No experience here, but if I lived near you, I would jump down in that dungeon with you!
graytrekker wrote:
Question for the this group. I posted this over on the "People" forum, but maybe I'd have more luck in this one. Maybe there are those out there (George?) who have really embraced the "Manual "method - all the way back to Deguerrotypes?
Is there anyone on here actually is doing Daguerrotype these days?
I have often thought about learning this process. However it is very chemical intensive and it seems like you need your own lab down in the dungeon of your castle to do these. Being a retired science faculty, I had thought about approaching the art dept at my old college to see if I could get some space for this and then offer a class on it. However, at this point, I don't really know the ins and outs of producing deguerrotypes. I came across this old (2013) video on Petapixel that sparked my interest again:
graytrekker wrote:
Question for the this group. I posted this over on the "People" forum, but maybe I'd have more luck in this one. Maybe there are those out there (George?) who have really embraced the "Manual "method - all the way back to Deguerrotypes?
Is there anyone on here actually is doing Daguerrotype these days?
I have often thought about learning this process. However it is very chemical intensive and it seems like you need your own lab down in the dungeon of your castle to do these. Being a retired science faculty, I had thought about approaching the art dept at my old college to see if I could get some space for this and then offer a class on it. However, at this point, I don't really know the ins and outs of producing deguerrotypes. I came across this old (2013) video on Petapixel that sparked my interest again:
Doug, A quick search found these links which I skimmed. I noticed some erroneous info. Hypo - hypo clearing agent has been linked to pancreatic cancer. To be fair - it was a tenuous link, and I used to literally soak my hands in it on Thursdays when I printed most of my week's work. It stinks, but will leave an almost professional manicure result on your hands. Never the less - I wouldn't touch anything with my hands now - the last link guy is using those harbor freight gloves. Good move IMO. I never did the Daguerrotype process, because some versions use dangerous chemicals. Here is what I found
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You can buy sterling silver sheets from a jewelry supply store and polish them with a felt wheel loaded with rouge.
graytrekker wrote:
Question for the this group. I posted this over on the "People" forum, but maybe I'd have more luck in this one. Maybe there are those out there (George?) who have really embraced the "Manual "method - all the way back to Deguerrotypes?
Is there anyone on here actually is doing Daguerrotype these days?
I have often thought about learning this process. However it is very chemical intensive and it seems like you need your own lab down in the dungeon of your castle to do these. Being a retired science faculty, I had thought about approaching the art dept at my old college to see if I could get some space for this and then offer a class on it. However, at this point, I don't really know the ins and outs of producing deguerrotypes. I came across this old (2013) video on Petapixel that sparked my interest again:
It might take me a bit, but one of the faculty that just retired from the college I work at was the alternative process instructor. She did many different types of photography including Daguerrotype. I can reach out to her and see if she is interested in talking with you about the process and what you would need as far as equipment and chemistry. Shoot me a message with your email and I can pass it along.
graytrekker wrote:
Question for the this group. I posted this over on the "People" forum, but maybe I'd have more luck in this one. Maybe there are those out there (George?) who have really embraced the "Manual "method - all the way back to Deguerrotypes?
Is there anyone on here actually is doing Daguerrotype these days?
I have often thought about learning this process. However it is very chemical intensive and it seems like you need your own lab down in the dungeon of your castle to do these. Being a retired science faculty, I had thought about approaching the art dept at my old college to see if I could get some space for this and then offer a class on it. However, at this point, I don't really know the ins and outs of producing deguerrotypes. I came across this old (2013) video on Petapixel that sparked my interest again:
At my campus, they would polish copper/brass sheets as well. I want to say that they avoided polished aluminum because of how quickly it oxidizes.
James Markus wrote:
Doug, A quick search found these links which I skimmed. I noticed some erroneous info. Hypo - hypo clearing agent has been linked to pancreatic cancer. To be fair - it was a tenuous link, and I used to literally soak my hands in it on Thursdays when I printed most of my week's work. It stinks, but will leave an almost professional manicure result on your hands. Never the less - I wouldn't touch anything with my hands now - the last link guy is using those harbor freight gloves. Good move IMO. I never did the Daguerrotype process, because some versions use dangerous chemicals. Here is what I found
Just out of curiosity, but doesn't the government require annual education of employees on hazard's they may encounter in the workplace anymore? OSHA data sheets should be easy to find, but when I searched for HCA (hypo clearing agent) the first government required datasheet (prepared by the manufacturer instead of the NIH) is from the UK? I ran these for ten years when I was a production supervisor, they had OSHA data sheets on water!
Here is what Kodak prepared for the English government.Link
OSHA states that employers must ensure that SDSs are readily accessible etc. But up to the employer to maintain copies of SDSs and if they do not have one they get them from the manufacturer. In this case Kodak alaris is based in UK.
My Hazard Communication for Chemical Users training is good for 5 years. Only reason I know is because I just did mine on June 20 and it is showing Completion expiration as June 20 2029.
James Markus wrote:
Just out of curiosity, but doesn't the government require annual education of employees on hazard's they may encounter in the workplace anymore? OSHA data sheets should be easy to find, but when I searched for HCA (hypo clearing agent) the first government required datasheet (prepared by the manufacturer instead of the NIH) is from the UK? I ran these for ten years when I was a production supervisor, they had OSHA data sheets on water!
Here is what Kodak prepared for the English government.Link
A few years back during covid, the photrio mid-atlantic group did a local video call. I joined it enthusiastically, but it turned out I was the only participant who merely did regular C41 and E-6 development and that too only started recently.
Every single one of them was into some or the other alternate process. They probably looked down upon me as what is this lowly normal film developer doing in our company. Didn't see any invite after that, maybe they left the lowly newbie out in subsequent calls
But boy, they really knew what they were doing, and it would need a dungeon and probably all kinds of PPE to work with.
spoupard wrote:
I don't know anything about it, but if I was searching for someone who does I'd start my search here: https://www.photrio.com/forum/
There are folks on that website that do all kinds of old processes. Maybe there's someone who can help you out.
Well they missed out on a great teaching/mentoring opportunity. How is that part of the hobby going to continue without teaching and apprenticeships.
saph wrote:
A few years back during covid, the photrio mid-atlantic group did a local video call. I joined it enthusiastically, but it turned out I was the only participant who merely did regular C41 and E-6 development and that too only started recently.
Every single one of them was into some or the other alternate process. They probably looked down upon me as what is this lowly normal film developer doing in our company. Didn't see any invite after that, maybe they left the lowly newbie out in subsequent calls
But boy, they really knew what they were doing, and it would need a dungeon and probably all kinds of PPE to work with.
Doug - very interesting. Keep us informed of progress. Mercury vapor was mentioned in the V&A Youtube video linked by Jim so your dungeon will require a fair bit of specialized equipment.
I see the V&A (Victoria and Albert museum, London) has a collection of Daguerrotypes.
These are not on public display but one can request to view a small number of items in a study room.
James Markus wrote:
Doug, A quick search found these links which I skimmed. I noticed some erroneous info. Hypo - hypo clearing agent has been linked to pancreatic cancer. To be fair - it was a tenuous link, and I used to literally soak my hands in it on Thursdays when I printed most of my week's work. It stinks, but will leave an almost professional manicure result on your hands. Never the less - I wouldn't touch anything with my hands now - the last link guy is using those harbor freight gloves. Good move IMO. I never did the Daguerrotype process, because some versions use dangerous chemicals. Here is what I found
AdaptedLenses wrote:
Didn’t have Nippi in the bag today, but I did have a new to me 55mm f/2.8 Micro. It was a humid overcast morning, so decided to pay the burial grounds a visit, and got a visit of my own before he slunk off into the overgrown creek.
Good mixture of clouds and sky
