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May 04, 2025 at 07:32 AM
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Panasonic G9 II & LEICA DG 10-25mm F1.7 at 10mm f/2.8, SS 1/125, ISO 100


Panasonic G9 II & LEICA DG 10-25mm F1.7 at 25mm f/2.8, SS 1/250, ISO 100


Panasonic G9 II & LEICA DG 10-25mm F1.7 at 25mm f/2.8, SS 1/160, ISO 100

May 06, 2025 at 07:48 AM
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I was looking at potential camera upgrades for my EM1 Mk2, used near exclusively for tripod hi-res mode. Ended up talking myself out of any of the Panasonic models, on account of a minimum aperture of f11 and a max shutter speed of 1 second. I go beyond those sometimes and I'd hate to feel like I was losing capability. As an example, the below is a blue hour shot with 1.6sec exposure.

May 06, 2025 at 08:03 AM
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A couple with the 90mm f/3.5 Macro:





























May 06, 2025 at 08:49 AM
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The Rat wrote:
I was looking at potential camera upgrades for my EM1 Mk2, used near exclusively for tripod hi-res mode. Ended up talking myself out of any of the Panasonic models, on account of a minimum aperture of f11 and a max shutter speed of 1 second. I go beyond those sometimes and I'd hate to feel like I was losing capability. As an example, the below is a blue hour shot with 1.6sec exposure.


I have been recently using G9II for landscapes, environmental portraits, and similar. My feelings about this experience are mixed. On the one hand, this is not a camera that I have enjoyed using. I don't hate it either, but compared to OM-1 II, I don't like the G9 II as much. The AF and IBIS of the latter are ordinary and inferior to those of OM-1 II. The G9II is bulkier and heavier. I find it uninspiring (sorry if this should offend some other users).
Having said the above, I believe that the G9II might be called the best micro-four-thirds camera for landscapes/cityscapes (and possibly for portraits), somewhat slightly better that the OM-1II. The G9II has the best-in-class dynamic range (the PDR is 10.17 at ISO100 vs. 9.69 at ISO200 for OM-1 II; the numbers are from Photons to Photos). The 25MP vs 20MP difference is marginal, yet it is in favor of the G9II. The hand-held high-resolution mode works well on the G9II to give 100MP raw files. The hand-held mode of the OM-1 II, in my experience, works only in the JPG mode; the raw files come out soft to the point of being not very useful.

When looking at your numbers, I am not sure why you may want to use an aperture smaller than f/11 that already gives the equivalent DOF of a FF f/22 lens and is affected by diffraction. For the "blue hour shot with 1.6sec exposure" (NICE!) do you mean 1.6s per shot and total 8 x 1.6 = 12.8 s exposure (if this is a high-res image)?
Note that the hand-held high-res mode of G9II collects 16 shots. Thus, even when the SS is 1/1.3s, the combined exposure is 12 s. The hand-held mode can be used with the camera set on a tripod, with the IBIS ON or OFF. I don't see this as a problem. The high-resolution mode of the G9II designated for tripod use collects only 8 shots. I don't know the reason, but in my hands the hand-held mode works satisfactorily. The three landscape photos that I posted above were all taken using the hand-held high-res mode on my G9II. The objective was to gain 2 stops of the dynamic range in those very contrasty scenes, to have more room for shadow recovery; I didn't really need 100MP.
May 07, 2025 at 01:51 AM
Alan Kefauver
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May 07, 2025 at 07:54 AM
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Alan Kefauver wrote:
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54503593160_5016991aef_h.jpgBlack Rhino, Lewa, Kenya (1 of 1)-2 by Alan Kefauver, on Flickr


Very nice capture, Alan. What lens were you using on this?

Greg
May 07, 2025 at 10:10 AM
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ruthenium wrote:
The Rat wroteI was looking at potential camera upgrades for my EM1 Mk2, used near exclusively for tripod hi-res mode. Ended up talking myself out of any of the Panasonic models, on account of a minimum aperture of f11 and a max shutter speed of 1 second. I go beyond those sometimes and I'd hate to feel like I was losing capability. As an example, the below is a blue hour shot with 1.6sec exposure.
I have been recently using G9II for landscapes, environmental portraits, and similar. My feelings about this experience are mixed. On the one hand, this is not a camera that I have enjoyed using. I don't hate it either, but compared to OM-1 II, I don't like the G9 II as much. The AF and IBIS of the latter are ordinary and inferior to those of OM-1 II. The G9II is bulkier and heavier. I find it uninspiring (sorry if this should offend some other users).
Having said the above, I believe that the G9II might be called the best micro-four-thirds
...Show more →

Thanks for your feedback and experience! I've enjoyed reading your previous posts and comparisons on the various hi-res modes. Didn't realize that the G9IIhandheld mode on that still puts out the 100MP raw files. I've been doing tripod hi-res on the EM1 Mk2 for a little over 5 years now. The raw files feel much more flexible compared to the standard output, I like making huge prints on occasion, and being on a tripod with the processing delay forces me to slow down and take more time composing the shot.

As far as the numbers, I like bumping the aperture down in situations where I've got the lens down very low to the ground and want to get the depth of field as large as possible. If I crank it to f16 or so, the DOF large enough that I don't need to take multiple shots and focus stack. F8 used to be the minimum, but after a firmware update a few years ago, I've found being able to go smaller to be very useful for that scenario.

For that blue hour shot, it is a hi-res base, so yeah, 1.6 sec x 8. I have in the past also had shots that went even higher for the base exposure time. Example here, this one was 8 sec x 8, at f8:

The only time I've had to go back to normal shooting mode and not hi-res, landscape-wise, is full dark nights with little to no moon.

I realize that these are both edge cases, and that the G9II would be solid for most of the pictures I take, I just hate giving up that extra leeway. Same reason I've stuck to the 12-40 Pro and 7-14 Pro lens combo, despite the 8-25 covering most of what I do. (Don't get me wrong here, I realize my reasoning is extremely niche here, like the camera equivalent of a guy really into pinky toes.)

Have you seen any noticeable difference between the tripod hi-res mode on the EM1 Mk2 and the OM1 Mk2, in terms of clarity, dynamic range or flexibility of the raw files? That seems like the most straight path upgrade, but if it's super marginal, I may as well stick with what I have for now.
May 07, 2025 at 10:56 AM
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p.198 #9Micro Four-Thirds Image Thread
A few from our recent trip to 'The Ark Encounter' in Kentucky -- highly recommended. This is an impressive sight to see as it is a replica of Noah's Ark built to the exact dimensions that are in the Bible, including 3 interior decks. The entire structure is built of wood by Amish carpenters, the exception being the infrastructure required for electric, plumbing, AC/heating, etc. (not in the Bible :-))
I captured these with my Olympus Pen F, and a variety of small, light weight lenses including the Olympus 9mm Fisheye Bodycap Lens, the Olympus 9-18mm f4-5.6 Lens, and the wonderful Panasonic 45-175mm f/4-5.6 PZ Lens.

Greg






  PEN-F     OLYMPUS M.9-18mm F4.0-5.6 lens    9mm    f/4.0    1/8000s    800 ISO    0.0 EV  






  PEN-F     0mm    f/0.0    1/1000s    400 ISO    0.0 EV  






A local Blackbird was kind enough to pose for me.

  PEN-F     LUMIX G VARIO PZ 45-175/F4.0-5.6 lens    175mm    f/8.0    1/500s    400 ISO    +0.3 EV  






  PEN-F     0mm    f/0.0    1/800s    400 ISO    0.0 EV  






  PEN-F     0mm    f/0.0    1/1000s    400 ISO    -0.3 EV  






  PEN-F     OLYMPUS M.9-18mm F4.0-5.6 lens    9mm    f/4.0    1/10s    1600 ISO    -0.3 EV  

May 07, 2025 at 03:32 PM
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p.198 #10Micro Four-Thirds Image Thread
The Rat wrote:
ruthenium wrote
The Rat wroteI was looking at potential camera upgrades for my EM1 Mk2, used near exclusively for tripod hi-res mode. Ended up talking myself out of any of the Panasonic models, on account of a minimum aperture of f11 and a max shutter speed of 1 second. I go beyond those sometimes and I'd hate to feel like I was losing capability. As an example, the below is a blue hour shot with 1.6sec exposure.
I have been recently using G9II for landscapes, environmental portraits, and similar. My feelings about this experience are mixed. On the one hand, this is not a camera that I have enjoyed using. I don't hate it either, but compared to OM-1 II, I don't like the G9 II as much. The AF and IBIS of the latter are ordinary and inferior to those of OM-1 II. The G9II is bulkier and heavier. I find it uninspiring (sorry if this should offend some other users).
Having said the above, I believe that the G9II might be called the best micro-four-thirds camera for landscapes/cityscapes (and possibly for portraits), somewhat slightly better that the OM-1II. The G9II has the best-in-class dynamic range (the PDR is 10.17 at ISO100 vs. 9.69 at ISO200 for OM-1 II; the numbers are from Photons to Photos). The 25MP vs 20MP difference is marginal, yet it is in favor of the G9II. The hand-held high-resolution mode works well on the G9II to give 100MP raw files. The hand-held mode of the OM-1 II, in my experience, works only in the JPG mode; the raw files come out soft to the point of being not very useful.

When looking at your numbers, I am not sure why you may want to use an aperture smaller than f/11 that already gives the equivalent DOF of a FF f/22 lens and is affected by diffraction. For the "blue hour shot with 1.6sec exposure" (NICE!) do you mean 1.6s per shot and total 8 x 1.6 = 12.8 s exposure (if this is a high-res image)?
Note that the hand-held high-res mode of G9II collects 16 shots. Thus, even when the SS is 1/1.3s, the combined exposure is 12 s. The hand-held mode can be used with the camera set on a tripod, with the IBIS ON or OFF. I don't see this as a problem. The high-resolution mode of the G9II designated for tripod use collects only 8 shots. I don't know the reason, but in my hands the hand-held mode works satisfactorily. The three landscape photos that I posted above were all taken using the hand-held high-res mode on my G9II. The objective was to gain 2 stops of the dynamic range in those very contrasty scenes, to have more room for shadow recovery; I didn't really need 100MP.
Thanks for your feedback and experience! I've enjoyed reading your previous posts and comparisons on the various hi-res modes. Didn't realize that the G9IIhandheld mode on that still puts out the 100MP raw files. I've been doing tripod hi-res on the EM1 Mk2 for a little over 5 years now. The raw files feel much more flexible compared to the standard output, I like making huge prints on occasion, and being on a tripod with the processing delay forces me to slow down and take more time composing the shot.

As far as the numbers, I like bumping the aperture
...Show more →

Regarding "Have you seen any noticeable difference between the tripod hi-res mode on the EM1 Mk2 and the OM1 Mk2", unfortunately I haven't used the EM1 and cannot compare. I trust your judgement regarding f/11 vs f/16 for very near sharpness, and I expect that your practice is based on experience. When looking at the calcualted hyperfocal distances and the corresponding near limits for the in-focus area, I see small differences at 12 mm. My remaining concern is about diffraction and how this should affect the images at f/16. That is, whether the small gain in near sharpness might be offset by the overall increased softness. This is something that can be tested (and you probably have tested already) by using a measuring tape extended from the camera, then setting a target at the corresponding hyperfocal distances and looking at the sharpness of the measuring tape at the close distances to the camera.
Since this is a picture thread, here is another landscape from my G9 II in the hand-held high-res mode.
Note the f/1.7 aperture. I could use a longer SS, but this was one of those shots, taken before returning home - it was getting dark, and I turned and took a quick last shot of the evening, without realizing that my last settings were for people, with the relatively fast SS.


Panasonic G9 II & LEICA DG 10-25mm F1.7 at 10mm f/1.7, SS 1/80, ISO 1600
May 07, 2025 at 06:14 PM
 


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Habu sake




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May 08, 2025 at 06:19 AM
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gmccroskery wrote:
Alan Kefauver wrotehttps://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54503593160_5016991aef_h.jpgBlack Rhino, Lewa, Kenya (1 of 1)-2 by Alan Kefauver, on Flickr
Very nice capture, Alan. What lens were you using on this?

Greg


MZ 150-400 f/4.5 TC 1.25 on an OM-1 MkII
May 08, 2025 at 07:11 AM
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May 08, 2025 at 07:39 AM
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The entire structure is built of wood by Amish carpenters, the exception being the infrastructure required for electric, plumbing, AC/heating, etc. (not in the Bible :-))

Only in the USA…
May 08, 2025 at 03:12 PM
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Robin Smith wrote:
Earlier quoteThe entire structure is built of wood by Amish carpenters, the exception being the infrastructure required for electric, plumbing, AC/heating, etc. (not in the Bible :-))
Only in the USA…


Actually, there are also full size replicas in Hong Kong and in the Netherlands.
What's your point?
May 08, 2025 at 09:39 PM
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Nice shot! My observation on the higher f stop numbers has just been from recent field use, and realizing that the focus on the back screen when pushing the shutter halfway doesn't necessarily correspond to the final output. Taking test shots at different f stops is a really good idea, I hadn't thought of that before. I'll have to find a street with a lot of sequential signs and try it out.

Since this is the photo thread, here's another from sunrise last week. I did get a sunrise yesterday too, but it didn't come out as nice.






ruthenium wrote:
The Rat wrote
ruthenium wrote
The Rat wroteI was looking at potential camera upgrades for my EM1 Mk2, used near exclusively for tripod hi-res mode. Ended up talking myself out of any of the Panasonic models, on account of a minimum aperture of f11 and a max shutter speed of 1 second. I go beyond those sometimes and I'd hate to feel like I was losing capability. As an example, the below is a blue hour shot with 1.6sec exposure.
I have been recently using G9II for landscapes, environmental portraits, and similar. My feelings about this experience are mixed. On the one hand, this is not a camera that I have enjoyed using. I don't hate it either, but compared to OM-1 II, I don't like the G9 II as much. The AF and IBIS of the latter are ordinary and inferior to those of OM-1 II. The G9II is bulkier and heavier. I find it uninspiring (sorry if this should offend some other users).
Having said the above, I believe that the G9II might be called the best micro-four-thirds camera for landscapes/cityscapes (and possibly for portraits), somewhat slightly better that the OM-1II. The G9II has the best-in-class dynamic range (the PDR is 10.17 at ISO100 vs. 9.69 at ISO200 for OM-1 II; the numbers are from Photons to Photos). The 25MP vs 20MP difference is marginal, yet it is in favor of the G9II. The hand-held high-resolution mode works well on the G9II to give 100MP raw files. The hand-held mode of the OM-1 II, in my experience, works only in the JPG mode; the raw files come out soft to the point of being not very useful.

When looking at your numbers, I am not sure why you may want to use an aperture smaller than f/11 that already gives the equivalent DOF of a FF f/22 lens and is affected by diffraction. For the "blue hour shot with 1.6sec exposure" (NICE!) do you mean 1.6s per shot and total 8 x 1.6 = 12.8 s exposure (if this is a high-res image)?
Note that the hand-held high-res mode of G9II collects 16 shots. Thus, even when the SS is 1/1.3s, the combined exposure is 12 s. The hand-held mode can be used with the camera set on a tripod, with the IBIS ON or OFF. I don't see this as a problem. The high-resolution mode of the G9II designated for tripod use collects only 8 shots. I don't know the reason, but in my hands the hand-held mode works satisfactorily. The three landscape photos that I posted above were all taken using the hand-held high-res mode on my G9II. The objective was to gain 2 stops of the dynamic range in those very contrasty scenes, to have more room for shadow recovery; I didn't really need 100MP.
Thanks for your feedback and experience! I've enjoyed reading your previous posts and comparisons on the various hi-res modes. Didn't realize that the G9IIhandheld mode on that still puts out the 100MP raw files. I've been doing tripod hi-res on the EM1 Mk2 for a little over 5 years now. The raw files feel much more flexible compared to the standard output, I like making huge prints on occasion, and being on a tripod with the processing delay forces me to slow down and take more time composing the shot.

As far as the numbers, I like bumping the aperture down in situations where I've got the lens down very low to the ground and want to get the depth of field as large as possible. If I crank it to f16 or so, the DOF large enough that I don't need to take multiple shots and focus stack. F8 used to be the minimum, but after a firmware update a few years ago, I've found being able to go smaller to be very useful for that scenario.

For that blue hour shot, it is a hi-res base, so yeah, 1.6 sec x 8. I have in the past also had shots that went even higher for the base exposure time. Example here, this one was 8 sec x 8, at f8:
The only time I've had to go back to normal shooting mode and not hi-res, landscape-wise, is full dark nights with little to no moon.

I realize that these are both edge cases, and that the G9II would be solid for most of the pictures I take, I just hate giving up that extra leeway. Same reason I've stuck to the 12-40 Pro and 7-14 Pro lens combo, despite the 8-25 covering most of what I do. (Don't get me wrong here, I realize my reasoning is extremely niche here, like the camera equivalent of a guy really into pinky toes.)

Have you seen any noticeable difference between the tripod hi-res mode on the EM1 Mk2 and the OM1 Mk2, in terms of clarity, dynamic range or flexibility of the raw files? That seems like the most straight path upgrade, but if it's super marginal, I may as well stick with what I have for now.
Regarding "Have you seen any noticeable difference between the tripod hi-res mode on the EM1 Mk2 and the OM1 Mk2", unfortunately I haven't used the EM1 and cannot compare. I trust your judgement regarding f/11 vs f/16 for very near sharpness, and I expect that your practice is based on experience. When looking at the calcualted hyperfocal distances and the corresponding near limits for the in-focus area, I see small differences at 12 mm. My remaining concern is about diffraction and how this should affect the images at f/16. That is, whether the small gain in near sharpness might be
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May 09, 2025 at 10:52 AM
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OM Digital Solutions OM-1 + OM SYSTEM M.Zuiko Digital ED 90mm f/3,5 Macro IS PRO by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr
May 10, 2025 at 02:50 PM
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OM Digital Solutions OM-1 + OLYMPUS M.150-400mm F4.5 by Ronny Olsson, on Flickr
May 10, 2025 at 02:52 PM
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p.198 #20Micro Four-Thirds Image Thread
When a large black bear looks you in the eye and starts to approach, it is time to retreat.




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