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p.104 #1 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


Phillip Reeve wrote:
I just did the comparison and the 55 has a little less detail but noticeably less SA while the 58 has a little more detail and much less contrast.
My Canon nFD 1.4/50 makes both look pretty weak.

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7362/16348993796_0ef5db9217_o.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7367/16348993756_1fbc26ffce_o.jpg


that agrees with my experience – though i would add that the 58/1.2 performs more noticeably better towards the outer zone (both wide open and stopped down) than the 55/1.7 and even surpasses the canon at the image edge (though never in contrast).

55/1.7 shots:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7391/15752344484_b2c28a7251_o.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8611/16188562589_0b56b94841_o.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7332/16181321867_54f0779085_o.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7432/16182246337_78cf380bfd_h.jpg



Jan 26, 2015 at 03:19 PM
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p.104 #2 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


I have both the Canon nFD 1.4 and the Minolta 55mm 1.7 and the Canon is razor sharp at F2... The minolta jumps from 1.7 straight to 2.8 but the Canon is sharper I believe.


Jan 26, 2015 at 05:14 PM
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p.104 #3 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


esanchez wrote:
I have both the Canon nFD 1.4 and the Minolta 55mm 1.7 and the Canon is razor sharp at F2... The minolta jumps from 1.7 straight to 2.8 but the Canon is sharper I believe.


yes, no question. the canon is almost certainly sharper even at f/1.4 than the rokkor 55/1.7 at f/2. i was commenting that rokkor 58/1.2 is sharper than the canon at the very edge of the frame though the canon is clearly sharper near the center at wide aperture.




Jan 26, 2015 at 05:37 PM
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p.104 #4 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


new toy so I had to shoot some ducks (yeah, my label misses a r):








Feb 01, 2015 at 04:24 PM
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p.104 #5 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


Phillip Reeve wrote:
new toy so I had to shoot some ducks (yeah, my label misses a r):

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7396/15801989253_d261c35fa0_o.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7319/16396065456_b856125a48_o.jpg

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7373/16234629890_f20ac101e5_o.jpg


so now that you've used both, how do you feel about the 85/1.7 vs 85/2?

here are a few from the 58/1.2:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7298/16419536496_a3d625eecf_o.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7399/16445527315_11dc07a4d2_o.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7312/16419537166_63984c6509_o.jpg
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Feb 04, 2015 at 06:18 PM
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p.104 #6 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


Just picked up a Minolta 35-70mm f3.5 based on comments I've seen on the web. Some basic testing against my Canon FD 35-70mm f4 shows the Canon wiping the floor with that lens at infinity (all focal lengths and apertures, but significantly at 35mm), even if the Minolta puts up a good decent performance for a zoom. A little surprised to be honest! I'll have to test more at closer range, but I guess I expected it to be at least as good. Glad now that no one bought the Canon when I had it on eBay for $10...


Feb 04, 2015 at 09:21 PM
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p.104 #7 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


very interesting! don't really hear much about the Canon FD 35-70mm f4. it outperforms in terms of sharpness? contrast? rendering?


Feb 04, 2015 at 10:09 PM
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p.104 #8 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


trogdon wrote:
Just picked up a Minolta 35-70mm f3.5 based on comments I've seen on the web. Some basic testing against my Canon FD 35-70mm f4 shows the Canon wiping the floor with that lens at infinity (all focal lengths and apertures, but significantly at 35mm), even if the Minolta puts up a good decent performance for a zoom. A little surprised to be honest! I'll have to test more at closer range, but I guess I expected it to be at least as good. Glad now that no one bought the Canon when I had it on eBay for $10...


which version of the minolta (and the canon)?

my copy of the minolta (the one with macro ability) seems to pretty much outresolve the a7 sensor across the frame at all focal distances at infinity from f/5.6 on. if the canon can do better that's very impressive.




Feb 04, 2015 at 11:33 PM
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p.104 #9 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


sebboh wrote:
which version of the minolta (and the canon)?

my copy of the minolta (the one with macro ability) seems to pretty much outresolve the a7 sensor across the frame at all focal distances at infinity from f/5.6 on. if the canon can do better that's very impressive.


Are you sure? At least at 35mm my copy does not perform that well. It still performes remarkably well for a zoom and had noticeably better corners than the Zeiss 4/24-70 but I wouldn#t say that it outresolves the sensor in the corners at 35mm. At 50mm and 70mm the corners are indeed great.










Feb 06, 2015 at 02:46 PM
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p.104 #10 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


Phillip Reeve wrote:
Are you sure? At least at 35mm my copy does not perform that well. It still performes remarkably well for a zoom and had noticeably better corners than the Zeiss 4/24-70 but I wouldn#t say that it outresolves the sensor in the corners at 35mm. At 50mm and 70mm the corners are indeed great.


well, just two corners – my copy is a bit decentered, but i figured the better corners were representative of optimal performance. perhaps not though?




Feb 06, 2015 at 03:10 PM
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p.104 #11 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


sebboh wrote:
well, just two corners – my copy is a bit decentered, but i figured the better corners were representative of optimal performance. perhaps not though?


decentering sucks. I just shot a pretty extensive test of several 85s among them MC 1.7/85 and MD 2/85 just to notice that the 2/85 is severely decentered










Feb 08, 2015 at 05:12 PM
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Feb 09, 2015 at 04:19 PM
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p.104 #13 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


Nice shots Sebboh.

How did you get rid of the donut bokeh?



Feb 10, 2015 at 06:58 PM
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p.104 #14 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


Jos Light wrote:
Nice shots Sebboh.

How did you get rid of the donut bokeh?


i didn't, they're still there in all their glory depending on how you compose:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7425/16480319395_83fa0e222f_o.jpg
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7451/16478573401_1b65d31353_o.jpg
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8579/15860204763_2753d2cd2d_o.jpg




Feb 10, 2015 at 08:22 PM
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p.104 #15 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


These are great sebboh. Some people seem to be offended by donuts, I don't mind them at all!


Feb 11, 2015 at 04:30 AM
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p.104 #16 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


Sebboh.... your donuts are going great with my morning coffee!


Feb 11, 2015 at 04:36 AM
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p.104 #17 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


I see them now. I use F.Lux on my laptop, so they were less pronounced in my earlier viewings on account of the dimmer screen colour (~3200k).

Makes me want to start looking at mirror lenses again... but I probably won't. I'm more of a UWA guy.



Feb 14, 2015 at 02:09 PM
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p.104 #18 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


sebboh wrote:
so now that you've used both, how do you feel about the 85/1.7 vs 85/2?

Thanks to the new notifications function I found your question which I had overlooked before.

The 2/85 is small and very sharp but the bokeh turns me off. The 1.7/85is much softer at f/1.7 but still good enough for portraits and it feels nicer, mostly because of the super smooth focusing ring.
Bokeh1 by reevedata, on Flickr

Personally I will stick to my 2.5/100 when I want Minolta rendering for portraits and stuff. Bokeh is better at portrait distances than that of my Bokina and it has a longer focus throw and is lighter. I should really use it more often.

last light by Phillip Reeve, on Flickr[url=https://flic.kr/p/qiRrfk]

[/url]backlit by Phillip Reeve, on Flickr

snowdrops - last sunlight by Phillip Reeve, on Flickr

ibexes - mating season by Phillip Reeve, on Flickr



Mar 13, 2015 at 09:55 AM
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p.104 #19 · ROKKOR Image & Discussion Thread


NEX5N+Minolta MD Macro 50/3.5
http://www.zeissimages.com/gallery/951/med_U951I1426435252.SEQ.4.jpg
http://www.zeissimages.com/gallery/951/med_U951I1426435250.SEQ.3.jpg
http://www.zeissimages.com/gallery/951/med_U951I1426436821.SEQ.0.jpg



Mar 15, 2015 at 11:29 AM
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