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 p.703 #2 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread | |
zhangyue wrote:
Ron, even I have't had any problem since update the firmware. I don't think I can rely on leica M9 as professional tool for wedding. Reliability is way more important than Slightly IQ advantage.
My guess is internal electronics get heat up during heavy usage cause the abnormal writing or even capture problem in sensor. I'd say leica just don't have the expertise of canikonoy's mass production even their units assembled by hand, inspected by human. We are not talking about build a chair, leather bag, or even lens. Electronics device testing is a huge investment from any company that can not be handled by leica either finically or technically.
A camera rely on mechanical coupling for focus always be a problem, especially at f1,f1.4, not mention focus recompose error. What you gonna do the body get a bump shift the focus in the middle of wedding?
I enjoy use M9 and it is my most loved camera so far but for wedding, professional use, it can only be used as 2nd body at most.
Great shots, guys. I will add some travel photos from last week later.
From iPhone, sorry for typo.
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Michael, I understand what you're saying and that I can do the work with my Canon system. But over the last couple years I've developed a hybrid system that works quite well for me and actually benefits from the use of a rangefinder, manual focus camera. And quite simply, I don't enjoy using DSLRs for some of this kind of work. For all of the reasons that have been debated umpteen times in an infinite loop, the rangefinder is faster and more accurate for me than MF through an OVF SLR finder or an EVF, therefore I'm reluctant to give it up. When shooting weddings, it's not about the absolute best optical quality, rather flexibility and the ability to survive to the end of the often very long, very hot/humid day. At my advanced age  , big heavy equipment is increasingly taxing.
Leica service would be much less of a hindrance if in the USA they'd adopt the same Fast and Express service options available in the EU from Solms, where the express service is two working days, though at a considerable price premium.
For me at least, this is the greatest indicator that while Leica says they cater to professionals with the M and S systems, it's all words without real world action. At least for M system, since I believe you can buy special S system service plans.
seekuh wrote:
Ron, did the banding occur at low iso or high iso settings?
Even if you sent the camera to Leica, I doubt they would confirm a banding issue due to a specific fault of YOUR camera since banding issues seem to happen from time to time with all M9s. Hope I'm wrong.
Thanks Hilmar. That is also my concern. - that they won't be able to duplicate the problem. When it happened at the wedding, it was at a higher ISO, either 640 or 1250. When it happened on Tuesday, it was at ISO 160. This banding issue is dramatically different than the 'normal' M9 banding I've seen quite frequently. The normal banding, which at its worst can have similarities, it is typically much more subtle.
charles.K wrote:
Ron, I feel for you! I have had my M9's many times for calibration and repairs. Not being a working professional, I can fully understand that a more cost effective system with full backup is a necessity for pro's. I think the issue of the quality of SD cards/readers is a widespread problem. I only recently had a SD card reader fail in my Sony RX1, and I would imagine Sony would have very tight tolerances on their production on these items. Sony, after 3 weeks, replaced my RX1 new, as the cost of the repair outweighed the new replacement.
The problem, you describe has happened to me many times, where I just kept discarding SD cards, for fear that the problem may return. This has drastically reduced the problem for me.
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Thanks Charles. I have done the same whenever I've noticed what seemed to be a flare up of the M9's 'normal' banding and simply stopped using that card with it. But this time it has happened with three different cards that I've had in the rotation for quite some time, well, at least a year or so. Maybe they're getting old...
BTW, I realize LUF is an option, but since there is a ready source of reliable M9 users here, though I'd ask our group first. I guess time to trawl the LUF archives.
Allen - excellent summer vignette!
Peter, wow, great scenics!
Joakim, wanted to mention how much I enjoyed the B&W image of the stream/river.
Here are a couple from back in May, on the French River, during a brief break in the incessant rain during our visit:
M9 & 21 Lux, 28 Cron, both wide open.
Yes, a bag full of pricy, non-buoyant Leica gear out on the open water in a tippy vessel.
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.....but well worth it. Great shots, I particularly like the 21 Lux. I did have that same banding as well with my last M9 with a Transcend card. Got rid of the card and never had an issue again. Not saying that was it, but I did have that same issue out of the blue just once.
