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 p.59 #15 · Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread | |
denoir wrote:
Carsten, regarding to the 35L. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree there. 
Well, I respect you enough to take that at face value, so yeah.
I like lenses with character and with a couple of exception Leica rendering style albeit a bit more nuanced tends to suffer from the same thing as Canonikon glass - it tries to be as neutral and non offensive as it can be.
Non-offensive is the wrong way to phrase it. It is inherently negative, but those who like Leica glass really like it. It has a very beautiful rendering style, which just happens to lack a couple of features you really appreciate. It took me forever to appreciate Zeiss glass, btw, and I still don't really like it on the Leica M. Too heavy-handed.
Interesting theory. I'm not sure that talent and money is at all correlated so I don't think the budget of the camera buyer should matter either way.
It shouldn't, but there are so many people who enter the Leica forum and start posting HCB or whoever shots, as already mentioned here. People with a bunch of money, little talent, and huge ego which needs regular stroking. There are also people who pray to the Leica altar, saving up forever, and then believing themselves to have reached the pinnacle of photography when they can finally afford that M9, rather than when they have figured out how to put it to use. Canon/Nikon/etc. forums are missing this segment, because the cameras are not legendary. You see it a little bit with people who believe that once they have bought an L lens, they are golden. As if L lenses are anything to aspire to. Uniformly less shitty than the non-L glass is about the best I can say.
(street photography style)
The leica forums have typically just shot after shot in that style - no interesting content and no composition. Perhaps I'm just blind to the purpose of such photography but I really can't see what people get out of it. To me it's essentially content free - just noise.
You see that here too, just more over there since the Leica is such a natural tool for such work.
Yes, I can agree with that. It's a niche we have here - people who are obsessed about the drawing styles of various lenses. Still there is usually a thought behind each shot unlike the common variety of street photography which completely omits any thought or idea.
Jein (great German word, combined from Ja and Nein). Most of the shots here stay firmly in that mould. There are relatively few shots here which would fit into thematic projects, as long as rendering style is not considered such.
We did an informal poll in the Zeiss thread a couple of months ago and it turned out that it was completely dominated by engineers (with a couple of exceptions, lawyers mostly).
Doesn't surprise me. The conversations show it pretty quickly. I feel at home here, being a software developer, but it *is* pretty special.
That Ken Rockwell shot is very atypical. I don't know exactly what he did. Maybe he forgot to convert from AdobeRGB to sRGB and just lost the colour profile somewhere, maybe combined with a bad WB, but if you really downloaded a DNG, that doesn't make sense. We also don't know what the light was like, or what those trees look like. There are better places to find M9 DNGs. In my experience, Leica M8, and to a slightly lesser extent, Leica M9 shots do not need any PP, as mentioned.
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) and I see some things that I like and some things that I don't. The good part is that the DNGs have good latitude, especially in the shadows - similar to the X1, perhaps a bit less. Definitely better than the 5DII with the inevitable noise banding in the shadows.
