Nice Michael - I really like the cat shot. Makes me smile... How do you find the center sharpness compares (at f/2) between your 50lux and 50cron? Just curious...
Hi, Gary, thanks for comments. 50lux is sharper at f1.4 than 50cron rigid at f2 for sure. At least for my copy. I feel 50lux is close to (not quite) f2.8 performance of 50cron if nail the focus. I will take a close look when I am back home, you have to take my word for now the problem is Leica's EXIF is not correct, so my f2.8 50cron shot may not be (keep in mind I am talking about center sharpness)
So I believe latest cron will be sharper than rigid for sure, at least before f4.
But I really like 50cron for real world shooting. I am not too sensitive to sharpness sometime with hood on, the front element is recess well into the lens similar to Zeiss MP50, I never worry about touch front element. So the cap is always off and camera is always ready when I need it. 50lux is different, the hood is too shallow, and flimsy, most time I have to keep cap on. with occasionally leave off the cap, I found front element has finger print already.
Michael, you have so many nice images! I really like your kids photo at the beach taken with Biogon 21, beautiful lighting, clarity, and center sharpness.
adamdewilde, I really enjoy seeing your B&W street shots.
Edward, nice firework images!
Here is a recent image taken with 24/3.8 Elmar and M9 (Great Falls park).
Gary Clennan wrote:
Nice Michael - I really like the cat shot. Makes me smile... How do you find the center sharpness compares (at f/2) between your 50lux and 50cron? Just curious...
Gary: I posted this a number of pages back - my 50 Lux ASPH at f/1.4 vs. Hilmar's 50 Cron Rigid at f/2. I'm sure the current 50 Cron will be much closer to the Lux, which also improves a bit at f/2.
50 Lux ASPH, both wide open, Cron first:
100% crops, LR default sharpening:
BTW, great images the last few pages. Love the sunset shots of your kids on the beach Michael! and the 35 Cron V1 candid portraits also have great character!
Thanks for the reminder Ron - I forgot you posted those... Looks like quite similar results to my untrained eye. BTW - did you shoot the Grey Cup this year? Stamps didn't even show up for the game...
Ryan - man that bread looks good!
A few from a short walk in Fish Creek Park the other day... Both with 35cron.
Ocean, Nice shot and looks sharp to the extreme corner
Airfrog, 2nd is my favorite
Ryan, Nicely done, I wish I can see first one bigger. it is a great portrait. so nature.
Gary, 2nd one is really nice, which 35cron you have. Heh, you got some new lens
Ron, your result match what I have.
Here is the test I did a while ago. both Wide open, 50cron Rigid first.
100%
I shoot JPG default standard sharpen for this comparison. Somehow, 50lux looks sharper but with smaller file size. It could be light slight changed between shots. 50cron looks better than I thought, I did the test but not really pay much attention at the time.
This is infinity test. for portrait, I feel 50lux is sharper at f1.4 for sure. It may not that surprise that newer lens usually have better correction at close distance.
Thanks Michael, and yes I did pick up a mint 35cron asph. I sold some of my redundant Nikon gear to fund...
zhangyue wrote:
Thanks for comment Ocean and Ron.
Ocean, Nice shot and looks sharp to the extreme corner
Airfrog, 2nd is my favorite
Ryan, Nicely done, I wish I can see first one bigger. it is a great portrait. so nature.
Gary, 2nd one is really nice, which 35cron you have. Heh, you got some new lens
Ron, your result match what I have.
Here is the test I did a while ago. both Wide open, 50cron Rigid
I shoot JPG default standard sharpen for this comparison. Somehow, 50lux looks sharper but with smaller file size. It could be light slight changed between shots. 50cron looks better than I thought, I did the test but not really pay much attention at the time.
This is infinity test. for portrait, I feel 50lux is sharper at f1.4 for sure. It may not that surprise that newer lens usually have better correction at close distance.
ocean2059 wrote:
Michael, you have so many nice images! I really like your kids photo at the beach taken with Biogon 21, beautiful lighting, clarity, and center sharpness.
adamdewilde, I really enjoy seeing your B&W street shots.
Edward, nice firework images!
Here is a recent image taken with 24/3.8 Elmar and M9 (Great Falls park).
Think you mean airfrogusmc's black and white shots (I don't have an eye for black and white).
ryankarr - really like your Noct. shots... Thinking of getting one Love the bread out of over shot! And the baker in the first shot, really damn sharp, sure that's wide open?
zhangyue - Lovely shots of the kids at the beach (last ones great)! Also love that little white cat with the patch of black.
airfrogusmc - nice black and whites. Fellow with the hood and baseball cap's a good capture.
Gary, the second shot's nice!
Been playing with an X-E1 + 35 fuji + 60 fuji so the Leica has been at home. IQ isn't as good as M9 (partly because I can't shoot raw with it right now). But it's fun to have autofocus on such a small camera... And the lenses are really darn good considering the relatively low cost.
Adam, back when the XP1 was first released, there was a thread in the alt forum with comparisons of 35/1.4 SOOC Jpegs and RAW files converted with Silkypix. From these images, there was a pretty strong indication that Fuji applies some sort of image enhancement processing to SOOC Jpegs that give the impression of higher sharpness. In some images there were interesting artifacts affecting background detail, applying harder edges to areas that should have had smooth transitions. Basically, it looked like a combination of selective clarity and USM application. Prior to seeing these comparison images, I was quite impressed that Fuji could offer a 35/1.4 with outstanding wide open performance for only $600. Normally at closer distances one would see some traces of SA and other aberrations, but initial full-rez images posted by a number of people on Flickr, etc., lacked the aberrations. I believe this is one of the factors, in addition to the difficulty RAW converters have with Fuji's X Trans sensor, why so many users actually prefer to shoot Jpeg with these cameras.
On one hand, it's a factor I appreciate about Leica's file handling. While they could have implemented edge color shift and vignetting corrections better, at least the files out of the M9 are relatively untouched in terms of NR and preserving the original character of the lenses. With Fuji it appears image character is a product of software and hardware, with apparently more reliance on software 'correction' than found in other systems. But then, this is apparently the direction everyone is heading towards and quite prevalent in the m43 system, for example... Of course, the M9's image character is also influenced by software, but what I mean to say is it doesn't appear Leica is applying software corrections to give the impression of better lens performance. Rather, it seems to be to give the M9's files characteristics akin to certain film emulsions.
That said, the SOOC Jpegs from the Fuji X cameras tend to be really good, and in normal use this treatment probably won't be noticeable. I've seen a lot of excellent images from these cameras in the Fuji image thread here and elsewhere. So, as with any gear, it's going to boil down to each photographer's ability.
Gary - congrats on the 35 Cron. Love the feel of the second image in particular!
Michael - your Cron looks really good wide open.
Ryan - wow, you're getting some really nice rendering out of the Nocti!
Edwin - congrats on the Perar - The images look better than I expected.
airfrogusmc - love the tonality!
ocean - looks like an interesting place to visit any time of the year.
Edward - very nice!
(keep in mind I am talking about center sharpness)
Love the bread out of over shot! And the baker in the first shot, really damn sharp, sure that's wide open?
