Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
p.259 #1Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
carstenw wrote:
Hehe, no, I actually meant that going slightly further out in the field of the M8 makes the lens better. There is a significant dip around 13.5mm in the MTF which recovers somewhat around 16mm. The other curves are less affected, and the smaller difference there is less likely to be visible, I would guess/think.
And to answer your question, I have had just 1 beer recently (although I did have another in the sun this afternoon), but I am in the process of test-tasting the 17-year Glenfarclas with the 1993 Glenfarclas sherry cask special edition
I bought both of...Show more →
Ok, I understand what you mean, but "recovers" means, that the dip is already passed, so you will see this effect on the image and it will not make the lens any better compared to using it on a 1.x Crop camera with a corner at 13.5mm.
I just fixed the f and no, I had no beer today ;-)
Boris
Hehe, no, I actually meant that going slightly further out in the field of the M8 makes the lens better. There is a significant dip around 13.5mm in the MTF which recovers somewhat around 16mm. The other curves are less affected, and the smaller difference there is less likely to be visible, I would guess/think.
And to answer your question, I have had just 1 beer recently (although I did have another in the sun this afternoon), but I am in the process of test-tasting the 17-year Glenfarclas with the 1993 Glenfarclas sherry cask special edition
I bought both of...Show more →Ok, I understand what you mean, but "recovers" means, that the dip is already passed, so you will see this effect on the image and it will not make the lens any better compared to using it on a 1.x Crop camera with a corner at 13.5mm.
I just fixed the f and no, I had no beer today ;-)
Boris
May 01, 2011 at 03:30 PM
p.259 #2Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
denoir wrote:
Indeed, but I don't think beer excuses work retroactively i.e "I'm sorry for doing XYZ. My only excuse is that I had a beer afterwards"
In my state, I'd accept it.
Indeed, but I don't think beer excuses work retroactively i.e "I'm sorry for doing XYZ. My only excuse is that I had a beer afterwards"
In my state, I'd accept it.
May 01, 2011 at 03:32 PM
p.259 #3Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Bobu wrote:
I just fixed the f and no, I had no beer today ;-)
That's fixable...
and yes, you are of course right about the dip having hit your image, but then, you were only complaining about corners, not somewhere on the way to the corner. I guess the lens might need servicing.
I just fixed the f and no, I had no beer today ;-)
That's fixable...
and yes, you are of course right about the dip having hit your image, but then, you were only complaining about corners, not somewhere on the way to the corner. I guess the lens might need servicing.
May 01, 2011 at 03:32 PM
p.259 #4Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
carstenw wrote:
That's fixable...
That would be difficult, because I don't like beer, but 17-year Glenfarclas sounds interesting.
I just wrote an email to Leica CS and Meister-Camera with a link to my images.
Boris
Bobu wrote
I just fixed the f and no, I had no beer today ;-)That would be difficult, because I don't like beer, but 17-year Glenfarclas sounds interesting.
I just wrote an email to Leica CS and Meister-Camera with a link to my images.
Boris
May 01, 2011 at 03:35 PM
p.259 #5Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
carstenw wrote:
In my state, I'd accept it.
Very well, then here's my formal excuse. I wasn't thinking clearly before I got my first beer. Without beer I tend to think in hyperbolic, non-euclidean geometry, but I've fixed that now
denoir wrote
Indeed, but I don't think beer excuses work retroactively i.e "I'm sorry for doing XYZ. My only excuse is that I had a beer afterwards"Very well, then here's my formal excuse. I wasn't thinking clearly before I got my first beer. Without beer I tend to think in hyperbolic, non-euclidean geometry, but I've fixed that now
May 01, 2011 at 03:47 PM
p.259 #6Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
That beer looks inviting! But I have had enough for one evening and will retire to my quarters shortly.
Boris, the 17-year old is now done, and in fact was the excuse for getting the 1993 special, which is turning out to have an interesting flavour, although I am not sure that I like it more than the 17... Hmm, Scotch dilemmas.
But I am doing way too much talking in a thread which I contribute to almost not at all. Here are two M8/28 Cron shots from a trip to visit a friend in Marseille last fall:
I see the rendering of these shots and remember why I love Leica M lenses so much. I would dearly love if Leica would release an M10 soon.
Boris, the 17-year old is now done, and in fact was the excuse for getting the 1993 special, which is turning out to have an interesting flavour, although I am not sure that I like it more than the 17... Hmm, Scotch dilemmas.
But I am doing way too much talking in a thread which I contribute to almost not at all. Here are two M8/28 Cron shots from a trip to visit a friend in Marseille last fall:
I see the rendering of these shots and remember why I love Leica M lenses so much. I would dearly love if Leica would release an M10 soon.
May 01, 2011 at 04:06 PM
p.259 #7Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Two more, also both the 28 Cron. I had forgotten how much use I got from this lens in Marseille (and Nice). I will keep it too.
May 01, 2011 at 04:33 PM
p.259 #8Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
denoir wrote:
here are the links.
Leica:
-Leica Summilux-M 35/1.4 ASPH
-Leica Summilux-M 50/1.4 ASPH
-Leica APO-Summicron-M 75/2 ASPH
-Leica Summicron-M 90/2 (V3)
Zeiss:
-Zeiss 18/4 Distagon ZM
-Zeiss 25/2.8 Biogon ZM
-Zeiss 35/2 Biogon ZM
-Zeiss 50/1.5 Sonnar ZM
The last images are from about a week ago as I need to manually update the files to include new images. I should really build something automated.. Looking at that list reminds me that when I got the M9 I promised myself not to buy more than three lenses..
These are fantastic. Thanks denoir for sharing these.
here are the links.
Leica:
-Leica Summilux-M 35/1.4 ASPH
-Leica Summilux-M 50/1.4 ASPH
-Leica APO-Summicron-M 75/2 ASPH
-Leica Summicron-M 90/2 (V3)
Zeiss:
-Zeiss 18/4 Distagon ZM
-Zeiss 25/2.8 Biogon ZM
-Zeiss 35/2 Biogon ZM
-Zeiss 50/1.5 Sonnar ZM
The last images are from about a week ago as I need to manually update the files to include new images. I should really build something automated.. Looking at that list reminds me that when I got the M9 I promised myself not to buy more than three lenses..
These are fantastic. Thanks denoir for sharing these.
May 01, 2011 at 06:00 PM
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p.259 #9Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Thanks for kind words, everyone.
It's been an interesting couple of days with the M9.
More to come.
Leica M9 50 1.0 Noctilux some with ND .
35 1.4 Summilux
28 1.9 ASPH
12 5.6 ASPH with no finder ( Lost it in an alley a couple of weeks ago)
Leica M9
Gregory
Edited on May 01, 2011 at 07:22 PM · View previous versions
It's been an interesting couple of days with the M9.
More to come.
Leica M9 50 1.0 Noctilux some with ND .
35 1.4 Summilux
28 1.9 ASPH
12 5.6 ASPH with no finder ( Lost it in an alley a couple of weeks ago)
Leica M9
Gregory
Edited on May 01, 2011 at 07:22 PM · View previous versions
May 01, 2011 at 06:57 PM
p.259 #10Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Alex and Ryan, thank you guys
Alex, very nice shots! The last two portraits are great
Carsten very nice shots with the 28 Cron. This is fast becoming one of my favourite lens
Boris, your copy of the 50 Lux Apsh does not look too bad. With different PP, the detail is there with lower contrast, may improve the perceived lack of sharpness. Or the possibility the 50 Lux, may have lens elements that are decentered, and just send it to a service centre that has a lens collimator, and the turn around can be very quick.
The 50 Lux's do vary!! My 50 Lux when it was sent down to Camera Clinic in Melbourne, an authorised Leica repairer, was compared against another 50 Lux Asph, which had less glow, appeared sharper at f/1.4, but the same at f/2.0. In essence my lens had more of a "glow" at f/1.4, detail still there, which for me is ideal. Wayne from Camera Clinic did suggest if I wanted to, the 50 Lux could be recentered, calibrated within a few days. But for now I have had no issues with my 50 Lux.
With respect to the50 Lux glow, I do quite often get this at f/1.4, as I do with the 75 Lux at f/1.4. IMO it is a unique feature of Leica lenses, that the lens can be very sharp, full of detail and yet have this glow.
I have mentioned a number of times, if in doubt do get the lenses checked and serviced by a service centre you trust and know what has been done
denoir wrote:
Thanks Charles
KL, my M9 has been to Solms twice for rangefinder calibration. What happened the first time is not entirely certain but my best guess is that it was slightly off out of the box and that I made matters worse when I tried to calibrate it myself. The second time was after I dropped the camera and thought the vertical calibration was off by a hair. Leica disagreed after checking the camera saying it was dead on.
As for the focus ring stiffness, it varies between the lenses. My 35 Lux ASPH has a slightly looser focusing ring than...Show more →
Luka, yes I have noticed a difference between the chrome and black versions. The chrome versions seems more solid, marginally stiffer and yet feel more accurate to focus. IMO some of the focusing accuracy issues of lenses, I feel are due to the lens designs. In the case of the 90 Cron APO, great lens but the focusing ring has a very quick focus throw, so it is easier to have OOF shots if there are any marginal calibration issues. The 75 Lux has a beautiful focusing throw and allows for accurate focusing even with moving subjects.
KL, my 2 M9's have been down to the Camera Clinic, three times each to have the RF calibration fine tuned as well as the frame lines on the silver body. The frame lines are tied up with the RF calibration too and if you find the framing is not accurate, this may be an issue particularly with the 75 and 90 FL's. In the end I sent all my lenses and M9's, and they are all synced as per the master calibration for focusing and frame lines, and lenses are all matched now also.
Gregory, nice shots!!
Alex, very nice shots! The last two portraits are great
Carsten very nice shots with the 28 Cron. This is fast becoming one of my favourite lens
Boris, your copy of the 50 Lux Apsh does not look too bad. With different PP, the detail is there with lower contrast, may improve the perceived lack of sharpness. Or the possibility the 50 Lux, may have lens elements that are decentered, and just send it to a service centre that has a lens collimator, and the turn around can be very quick.
The 50 Lux's do vary!! My 50 Lux when it was sent down to Camera Clinic in Melbourne, an authorised Leica repairer, was compared against another 50 Lux Asph, which had less glow, appeared sharper at f/1.4, but the same at f/2.0. In essence my lens had more of a "glow" at f/1.4, detail still there, which for me is ideal. Wayne from Camera Clinic did suggest if I wanted to, the 50 Lux could be recentered, calibrated within a few days. But for now I have had no issues with my 50 Lux.
With respect to the50 Lux glow, I do quite often get this at f/1.4, as I do with the 75 Lux at f/1.4. IMO it is a unique feature of Leica lenses, that the lens can be very sharp, full of detail and yet have this glow.
I have mentioned a number of times, if in doubt do get the lenses checked and serviced by a service centre you trust and know what has been done
denoir wrote:
Thanks Charles
KL, my M9 has been to Solms twice for rangefinder calibration. What happened the first time is not entirely certain but my best guess is that it was slightly off out of the box and that I made matters worse when I tried to calibrate it myself. The second time was after I dropped the camera and thought the vertical calibration was off by a hair. Leica disagreed after checking the camera saying it was dead on.
As for the focus ring stiffness, it varies between the lenses. My 35 Lux ASPH has a slightly looser focusing ring than...Show more →
Luka, yes I have noticed a difference between the chrome and black versions. The chrome versions seems more solid, marginally stiffer and yet feel more accurate to focus. IMO some of the focusing accuracy issues of lenses, I feel are due to the lens designs. In the case of the 90 Cron APO, great lens but the focusing ring has a very quick focus throw, so it is easier to have OOF shots if there are any marginal calibration issues. The 75 Lux has a beautiful focusing throw and allows for accurate focusing even with moving subjects.
KL, my 2 M9's have been down to the Camera Clinic, three times each to have the RF calibration fine tuned as well as the frame lines on the silver body. The frame lines are tied up with the RF calibration too and if you find the framing is not accurate, this may be an issue particularly with the 75 and 90 FL's. In the end I sent all my lenses and M9's, and they are all synced as per the master calibration for focusing and frame lines, and lenses are all matched now also.
Gregory, nice shots!!
May 01, 2011 at 07:19 PM
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p.259 #11Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Gregory, nice shots. You say it's been an experience....good or bad?
Charles, I think based on your lab PP the 50 Lux loses that glow wide open and sharpens up considerably
28 Cron....yes, this is my favorite lens.
Charles, I think based on your lab PP the 50 Lux loses that glow wide open and sharpens up considerably
28 Cron....yes, this is my favorite lens.
May 01, 2011 at 07:32 PM
p.259 #12Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
carstenw wrote:
Hehe, no, I actually meant that going slightly further out in the field of the M8 makes the lens better. There is a significant dip around 13.5mm in the MTF which recovers somewhat around 16mm. The other curves are less affected, and the smaller difference there is less likely to be visible, I would guess/think.
And to answer your question, I have had just 1 beer recently (although I did have another in the sun this afternoon), but I am in the process of test-tasting the 17-year Glenfarclas with the 1993 Glenfarclas sherry cask special edition I bought both of...Show more →
Yes, the Glenfarclas 21yr is superb! Yummy! As soon as my Lagavulin is finshed I will purchase another bottle of Glenfarclas.
Hehe, no, I actually meant that going slightly further out in the field of the M8 makes the lens better. There is a significant dip around 13.5mm in the MTF which recovers somewhat around 16mm. The other curves are less affected, and the smaller difference there is less likely to be visible, I would guess/think.
And to answer your question, I have had just 1 beer recently (although I did have another in the sun this afternoon), but I am in the process of test-tasting the 17-year Glenfarclas with the 1993 Glenfarclas sherry cask special edition
I bought both of...Show more →Yes, the Glenfarclas 21yr is superb! Yummy! As soon as my Lagavulin is finshed I will purchase another bottle of Glenfarclas.
May 01, 2011 at 08:45 PM
p.259 #13Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
charles.K wrote:
Luka, thank you
Two more shots one with 28 Cron, and the other 75 Lux
the last shot here is fantastic!
Luka, thank you
Two more shots one with 28 Cron, and the other 75 Lux
the last shot here is fantastic!
May 01, 2011 at 10:10 PM
p.259 #17Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Hi all,
A few 50 Lux ASPH shots
Take 5:::"Zul":::Smoking Break
Take 5:::"Zul":::Smoking Break
Let's talk:::Before work starts
Listen without prejudice:::Attending a Rally
Cheers
kl
A few 50 Lux ASPH shots
Take 5:::"Zul":::Smoking Break
Take 5:::"Zul":::Smoking Break
Let's talk:::Before work starts
Listen without prejudice:::Attending a Rally
Cheers
kl
May 02, 2011 at 05:39 AM
p.259 #18Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
KL, very nice shots! #1 is an excellent portrait, and love the composition to #3
May 02, 2011 at 05:49 AM
p.259 #19Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Thank you Charles!
Charles - very nice shots on this page and the last. Like #1 & #2 on the prior page and #1 on this one. Your beach is beautiful
KL - nice shots with the 50 Lux. #1 & #4 are my favorites. I like how the 50 Lux handled the flare on #4
Charles - very nice shots on this page and the last. Like #1 & #2 on the prior page and #1 on this one. Your beach is beautiful
KL - nice shots with the 50 Lux. #1 & #4 are my favorites. I like how the 50 Lux handled the flare on #4
May 02, 2011 at 07:11 AM
p.259 #20Leica M/X/T/S/Q/CL/SL Picture Thread
Carsten & Ryan - great shots with the 28 Cron. I'm really set on not getting it but you are making it very hard 
KL great 50 Lux ASPH portraits. The last one is my favorite
Charles, really great beach shots - the last two are my favorites. Damn, 28 Cron again
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KL great 50 Lux ASPH portraits. The last one is my favorite
Charles, really great beach shots - the last two are my favorites. Damn, 28 Cron again
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May 02, 2011 at 10:22 AM