Leica R Series Lenses
p.86 #1Leica R Series Lenses
Thanks! Yes, it is a really nice lens, very, very sharp in the plane of focus, with very lively but interesting boke.
Apr 27, 2012 at 07:01 AM
p.86 #2Leica R Series Lenses
I like it, Carsten. Nicely done HDR. Have you posted photos of the modification to the rear of the lux that allows you to use it on a FF? I'd think that would be of interest to other Nikon shooters.
Apr 27, 2012 at 02:45 PM
p.86 #3Leica R Series Lenses
I don't have any photos like this, but worldinlens does. He did my lens, while I was watching 
Maybe he can post a link. I know they are around somewhere. Essentially though, you just need to remove a sh*tload of metal from around the rear element Better to leave it to an engineer or machinist.
Maybe he can post a link. I know they are around somewhere. Essentially though, you just need to remove a sh*tload of metal from around the rear element Better to leave it to an engineer or machinist.Apr 27, 2012 at 03:27 PM
p.86 #4Leica R Series Lenses
Another 35 Lux-R shot, HDR from 7 shots, maybe around f/4:
Apr 27, 2012 at 03:44 PM
p.86 #5Leica R Series Lenses
Another cool shot. I really like these pictures you are posting Carsten.
Apr 27, 2012 at 03:53 PM
p.86 #6Leica R Series Lenses
Thanks very much, Gary!
But without intending to be immodest, there are some better ones coming! The tour consisted of two locations, and these photos were from Zeche Zollern. The other location, Hansa Kokerei, was much more beautiful.
But without intending to be immodest, there are some better ones coming! The tour consisted of two locations, and these photos were from Zeche Zollern. The other location, Hansa Kokerei, was much more beautiful.
Apr 27, 2012 at 04:05 PM
p.86 #7Leica R Series Lenses
One more from Zeche Zollern, and then bed. 35 Lux-R at around f/4-f/5.6. 7-shot HDR:
Apr 27, 2012 at 04:31 PM
p.86 #9Leica R Series Lenses
JohnJ wrote:
This lens is usually considered as one the less attractive within the R series but I would interested to get your feedback from "real-life"...
http://johnjovic.com/temp/R24/IMG_2002_1.jpg
Yes, this is considered 'less attractive within the R series'. Being a Minolta design it has a reputation of being 'less than Leica' from the get-go. Ironically, here Minolta glass is generally highly praised. It would be interesting to see the R24 compared on a FF body with a Zuiko 24/2.8, Contax 25/2.8 and maybe others where it's shortcomings could be seen and compared objectively but I think most people just jump on the 'it's a Minolta design' bandwagon and dump on it for that reason alone.
I don't have many digital pics from it as I've only ever used...Show more →
Thanks a lot for this complete overview with nice pictures!
Thomas73 wrote
Do some of you have some pictures taken with the Elmarit-R 24/2.8 (+ film or DMR)?This lens is usually considered as one the less attractive within the R series but I would interested to get your feedback from "real-life"...
Yes, this is considered 'less attractive within the R series'. Being a Minolta design it has a reputation of being 'less than Leica' from the get-go. Ironically, here Minolta glass is generally highly praised. It would be interesting to see the R24 compared on a FF body with a Zuiko 24/2.8, Contax 25/2.8 and maybe others where it's shortcomings could be seen and compared objectively but I think most people just jump on the 'it's a Minolta design' bandwagon and dump on it for that reason alone.
I don't have many digital pics from it as I've only ever used...Show more →
Thanks a lot for this complete overview with nice pictures!
Apr 28, 2012 at 06:04 AM
p.86 #10Leica R Series Lenses
carstenw wrote:
5-shot HDR, 35 Summilux-R wide open:
http://throughthelensdarkly.com/forums/CW_20120414_NikonD3_0001-3.jpg
I don't know if it's due to the light, HDR processing or just the bokeh of the lens, but the rear part of that vise seems to have a very strong 2D-effect. Quite odd. Maybe the tone mapping lowered the contrast, which makes it look as flat as a piece of paper.
5-shot HDR, 35 Summilux-R wide open:
http://throughthelensdarkly.com/forums/CW_20120414_NikonD3_0001-3.jpg
I don't know if it's due to the light, HDR processing or just the bokeh of the lens, but the rear part of that vise seems to have a very strong 2D-effect.
Quite odd. Maybe the tone mapping lowered the contrast, which makes it look as flat as a piece of paper.Apr 28, 2012 at 06:31 AM
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p.86 #11Leica R Series Lenses
You are right. I don't know why, it was really 3D!
Apr 28, 2012 at 10:07 AM
p.86 #12Leica R Series Lenses
Carsten, Summilux 35 seems to have pretty interesting drawing style. One day I would like to try this one and specially the 50mm Summilux, but would have to change to Nikon camera or get rid off the mirror to do it...
Today went to shoot "farewell to Vario-Elmar-R 80-200mm f/4"; I doubt that this lens gets much use after I get 180APO and Leitax (wanted to try this instead adapter) for it. All wide open, 1/30s and ISO 100 (and like 99% of my photos: no PP, unless you count black levels and WB finetunings). This lens really shines as 135mm f/4 lens.
#1 135mm (larger)
#2 135mm (larger)
#3 150mm (larger)
[7img]
#4 135mm (larger)
#5 135mm (larger)
#6 80mm (larger)
Samuli
Today went to shoot "farewell to Vario-Elmar-R 80-200mm f/4"; I doubt that this lens gets much use after I get 180APO and Leitax (wanted to try this instead adapter) for it. All wide open, 1/30s and ISO 100 (and like 99% of my photos: no PP, unless you count black levels and WB finetunings). This lens really shines as 135mm f/4 lens.
#1 135mm (larger)
#2 135mm (larger)
#3 150mm (larger)
[7img]#4 135mm (larger)
#5 135mm (larger)
#6 80mm (larger)
Samuli
Apr 28, 2012 at 03:43 PM
p.86 #13Leica R Series Lenses
carstenw wrote:
5-shot HDR, 35 Summilux-R wide open:
http://throughthelensdarkly.com/forums/CW_20120414_NikonD3_0001-3.jpg
why all the HDR?
if this was the zeiss thread, there'd be about 2 months and 10 pages of raves about micro-contrast from this one photo...
5-shot HDR, 35 Summilux-R wide open:
http://throughthelensdarkly.com/forums/CW_20120414_NikonD3_0001-3.jpg
why all the HDR?
if this was the zeiss thread, there'd be about 2 months and 10 pages of raves about micro-contrast from this one photo...
Apr 28, 2012 at 06:01 PM
p.86 #14Leica R Series Lenses
JimUe wrote:
why all the HDR?
if this was the zeiss thread, there'd be about 2 months and 10 pages of raves about micro-contrast from this one photo...
i have to say while i normally prefer the look of leica lenses to zeiss, i definitely prefer the zeiss 35/1.4 to the leica R from all the photos i've seen. the zeiss has much nicer bokeh, while still maintaining the zeiss look. the leica would probably be better for glamour type photos, but otherwise i'm pretty sure i like the zeiss better.
anyway, here's yet another bird with the 350/4.8 (that's what i bought the lens for afterall). wide open at mfd. shot at iso 1600 pushed to 4000ish since i had to push the shutter to 1/500 for the twitchy little punk:
why all the HDR?
if this was the zeiss thread, there'd be about 2 months and 10 pages of raves about micro-contrast from this one photo...
i have to say while i normally prefer the look of leica lenses to zeiss, i definitely prefer the zeiss 35/1.4 to the leica R from all the photos i've seen. the zeiss has much nicer bokeh, while still maintaining the zeiss look. the leica would probably be better for glamour type photos, but otherwise i'm pretty sure i like the zeiss better.
anyway, here's yet another bird with the 350/4.8 (that's what i bought the lens for afterall). wide open at mfd. shot at iso 1600 pushed to 4000ish since i had to push the shutter to 1/500 for the twitchy little punk:
Apr 28, 2012 at 08:29 PM
p.86 #15Leica R Series Lenses
Samuli Vahonen wrote:
Carsten, Summilux 35 seems to have pretty interesting drawing style. One day I would like to try this one and specially the 50mm Summilux, but would have to change to Nikon camera or get rid off the mirror to do it...
The Canon mirror is actually more forgiving, but both need modification to the lens or mirror. My copy would also work on a Canon, for example.
Carsten, Summilux 35 seems to have pretty interesting drawing style. One day I would like to try this one and specially the 50mm Summilux, but would have to change to Nikon camera or get rid off the mirror to do it...
The Canon mirror is actually more forgiving, but both need modification to the lens or mirror. My copy would also work on a Canon, for example.
Apr 29, 2012 at 01:16 AM
p.86 #16Leica R Series Lenses
JimUe wrote:
why all the HDR?
I took an industrial HDR course from Nikonians
I am not especially an HDR fan, and would likely process these differently for my own purposes, but the technique does come in handy on occasion. Here is the middle shot of the vise, unprocessed, for comparison. Once I have finished processing these shots for the Nikonians thread, I will probably pick out my favorites and re-process them more for my own taste, i.e. more realistic.
About the micro-contrast, the better Leica lenses actually have loads of micro-contrast and resolution, their drawing style just isn't as in-your-face as the Zeiss lenses. A bit of processing brings it out. What I sometimes miss in the Leica lenses is the special clarity and 3D look of the Zeiss lenses which makes things look real, not like a photograph. As a general rule, Zeiss lenses deliver believable rendering, Leica lenses deliver beautiful rendering. These are not mutually exclusive in either direction, but the actual crossover is small in this case.
Edited on Apr 29, 2012 at 01:10 PM · View previous versions
why all the HDR?
I took an industrial HDR course from Nikonians
I am not especially an HDR fan, and would likely process these differently for my own purposes, but the technique does come in handy on occasion. Here is the middle shot of the vise, unprocessed, for comparison. Once I have finished processing these shots for the Nikonians thread, I will probably pick out my favorites and re-process them more for my own taste, i.e. more realistic.
About the micro-contrast, the better Leica lenses actually have loads of micro-contrast and resolution, their drawing style just isn't as in-your-face as the Zeiss lenses. A bit of processing brings it out. What I sometimes miss in the Leica lenses is the special clarity and 3D look of the Zeiss lenses which makes things look real, not like a photograph. As a general rule, Zeiss lenses deliver believable rendering, Leica lenses deliver beautiful rendering. These are not mutually exclusive in either direction, but the actual crossover is small in this case.
Edited on Apr 29, 2012 at 01:10 PM · View previous versions
Apr 29, 2012 at 01:17 AM
p.86 #17Leica R Series Lenses
sebboh wrote:
i have to say while i normally prefer the look of leica lenses to zeiss, i definitely prefer the zeiss 35/1.4 to the leica R from all the photos i've seen.
The Zeiss 35/1.4 is an awesome lens, but so is the Leica. I tend to post shots with strong processing and dramatic light, but under the right circumstances, the Leica is also an awesome portrait lens. I would put them at about par for most things. I would eventually like to own both.
i have to say while i normally prefer the look of leica lenses to zeiss, i definitely prefer the zeiss 35/1.4 to the leica R from all the photos i've seen.
The Zeiss 35/1.4 is an awesome lens, but so is the Leica. I tend to post shots with strong processing and dramatic light, but under the right circumstances, the Leica is also an awesome portrait lens. I would put them at about par for most things. I would eventually like to own both.
Apr 29, 2012 at 01:26 AM
p.86 #18Leica R Series Lenses
@sebboh: Nice shot of the twitchy little punk
Apr 29, 2012 at 10:09 AM
p.86 #19Leica R Series Lenses
johnahill wrote:
Samuli - The shots from the Vario-Elmar look amazing, which 180APO are you getting?
The Elmarit. It was mentioned earlier in this thread, I think.
Samuli - The shots from the Vario-Elmar look amazing, which 180APO are you getting?
The Elmarit. It was mentioned earlier in this thread, I think.
Apr 29, 2012 at 01:11 PM
p.86 #20Leica R Series Lenses
Carsten, I'll have to say that your HDR added quite a lot to 35 summilux photo, look rather uninteresting without HDR.
johnahill wrote:
Samuli - The shots from the Vario-Elmar look amazing, which 180APO are you getting?
Here's a dusk twilight shot from the R28 (v2)
John, f/2.8 v2 from 1998 manufacturing batch (link).
R28 seems to be good lens for "all sharp" images, how it's do you like it's bokeh?
Vario-Elmar-R 80-200 is really great lens, thou I never learned to shoot with it (I'm prime shooter, these zooms just confuse me...). The middle range of zoom (~120-150mm) is the hot spot, but it's not bad on either end of the zoom, same subject f/4:
80mm (larger)
135mm (larger)
200mm (larger)
Samuli
johnahill wrote:
Samuli - The shots from the Vario-Elmar look amazing, which 180APO are you getting?
Here's a dusk twilight shot from the R28 (v2)
John, f/2.8 v2 from 1998 manufacturing batch (link).
R28 seems to be good lens for "all sharp" images, how it's do you like it's bokeh?
Vario-Elmar-R 80-200 is really great lens, thou I never learned to shoot with it (I'm prime shooter, these zooms just confuse me...). The middle range of zoom (~120-150mm) is the hot spot, but it's not bad on either end of the zoom, same subject f/4:
80mm (larger)
135mm (larger)
200mm (larger)
Samuli
Apr 29, 2012 at 02:53 PM