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p.38 #1 · Leica R Series Lenses


Leica Summicron R 90 mm @ f/4...



@buggz2k, my Leica R Summicron 90 mm late Canada version has a built-in hood.


Regards,

Chris......



Jun 10, 2011 at 06:46 AM
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p.38 #2 · Leica R Series Lenses


buggz2k wrote:
Hello,
Does the LEICA 90mm f/2.0 Summicron-R have a built in hood like the 50/2 I have ?


All versions have a built-in hood.



Jun 10, 2011 at 09:06 AM
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p.38 #3 · Leica R Series Lenses


Here's "Ribbon Road"
with extra heat waves added (vis maior - we didn't think it'd be that toasty!)
Summicron 180, wide open.
http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/2883/summilicious.jpg



Jun 10, 2011 at 11:04 PM
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p.38 #4 · Leica R Series Lenses


Fantastic shot!


Jun 11, 2011 at 09:19 AM
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p.38 #5 · Leica R Series Lenses


That is an interesting example of shallow DOF on the car/road shot!


Jun 11, 2011 at 09:37 AM
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p.38 #6 · Leica R Series Lenses


Thanks, that's what the 180 does if you want. The heat waves created some very unique-looking bokeh, too. I wish I'd added the prop of placing the keys on the ashphalt, within the DoF sliver.


Jun 11, 2011 at 12:05 PM
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p.38 #7 · Leica R Series Lenses


Boats at Cu lao Cham, Vietnam.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2136/5824288877_b2e78027c6_b.jpg



Jun 12, 2011 at 10:12 AM
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p.38 #8 · Leica R Series Lenses


Testing my new, to me, Leica R 50f2 Summimicron.
Natural window light, 5DMkII, shot wide open.

My nieces' kitty.
Kinda soft, difficult moving target, looks kinda okay.
And yes, this is cropped, shrug, I kinda like this perspective.

http://www.cornbread.com/~buggz/Daisy-01-resized.jpg



Edited on Jun 12, 2011 at 08:32 PM · View previous versions



Jun 12, 2011 at 07:20 PM
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p.38 #9 · Leica R Series Lenses


buggz2k wrote:
Testing my new, to me, Leica R 50f2 Summimicron.
Natural window light, 5DMkII

My nieces' kitty.
Kinda soft, difficult moving target, looks kinda okay.
And yes, this is cropped, shrug, I kinda like this perspective.

http://www.cornbread.com/~buggz/Daisy-01-resized.jpg



Which Cron? The latest E55 is sharp wide open so you shouldn't be having any problems with sharpness. No idea about the older versions.

100% crop, unsharpened, with E55
http://rigshots.com.au/images/50/L50c/cs_min/L50_c_2.jpg

Full frame for reference.
http://rigshots.com.au/images/50/L50c/bokeh_min/IMG_1189_L50_.jpg

I'd suggest that if you are having problems with sharpness, wide open, then consider your shutter speed and focusing accuracy.

JJ

Edited on Jun 12, 2011 at 07:33 PM · View previous versions



Jun 12, 2011 at 07:30 PM
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p.38 #10 · Leica R Series Lenses


Hi,
I think it was soft due to the low shutter speed and movement from me and "target".
These kitties, they have two, are hard to get.
I really didn't want to use flash.



Jun 12, 2011 at 07:33 PM
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p.38 #11 · Leica R Series Lenses


buggz2k wrote:
Hi,
I think it was soft due to the low shutter speed and movement from me and "target".
These kitties, they have two, are hard to get.
I really didn't want to use flash.


I think we where typing at the same time!

JJ



Jun 12, 2011 at 07:34 PM
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p.38 #12 · Leica R Series Lenses



How do you know what version it is?
I think it is E55, it has the built in hood, I have the box, S/N: 3162146
Oh, this was wide open, edited original post to reflect this info.


Edited on Jun 12, 2011 at 08:04 PM · View previous versions



Jun 12, 2011 at 07:47 PM
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p.38 #13 · Leica R Series Lenses


buggz2k wrote:
Heh,
How do you know hat version it is?
I think it is E55, it has the built in hood, I have the box, S/N: 3162146
Oh, this was wide open, edited original post to reflect this info.



I have one near that S/N range as well. While there are only two optical versions, an earlier one without built-in hood and those with built-in hood, there may be differences due to lens coating improvements in the later E55 versions. Mine is a little soft wide open due to veiling glare but by F4 shows amazing sharpness and contrast. Ours are made in Canada and I think all the E55 versions are made in Germany.



Jun 12, 2011 at 08:01 PM
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Tariq Gibran wrote:
Ours are made in Canada and I think all the E55 versions are made in Germany


No, there were many of the (older) newest version/E55 made in Canada; I had a Leitz Canada E55, serial #3047*** (which I traded for a Rokkor 58/1.2, and now use a newer German E55; the coatings were a different color, but I didn't find any optical differences when I had them side-by-side).

Note: E55 refers to the filter thread size; if the lens fits 55mm filters, it is an E55 lens (and, for the summicron-R 50, will have the built-in pull-out hood).
Note 2: The newer (German only?) 'Cron 50's actually say "E 55" on the lens front, which is perhaps why someone might think that E55 refers specifically to the German version, though the term is also used to denote the earlier Canada version with the same filter size / overall design.

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Jun 12, 2011 at 08:05 PM
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mpmendenhall wrote:
No, there were many of the (older) newest version/E55 made in Canada; I had a Leitz Canada E55, serial #3047*** (which I traded for a Rokkor 58/1.2, and now use a newer German E55; the coatings were a different color, but I didn't find any optical differences when I had them side-by-side).


Interesting. So, did you notice a slight haze/ veiling glare resulting in a decrease of contrast when shot wide open?

For some reason, I thought the E55 was designated on the lens.



Jun 12, 2011 at 08:10 PM
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p.38 #16 · Leica R Series Lenses


Tariq Gibran wrote:
Interesting. So, did you notice a slight haze/ veiling glare resulting in a decrease of contrast when shot wide open?

For some reason, I thought the E55 was designated on the lens.


I don't recall the earlier Canada version that I had having particularly stronger veiling flare than my newer one, although I never did a careful test for this property. Even the newer one has slightly lower contrast wide open (like nearly all fast-50s of this type of design) compared to stopped down a bit, though both lenses are usually sufficiently contrasty.

As I now edited my previous post to say, "E55" is printed on the newest German versions, but still refers to the filter ring size; both the Canada and German versions might be referred to as "E55" (to distinguish them from the optically different older lenses with a smaller front thread), though only the newer ones will actually say "E55" on the lens.



Jun 12, 2011 at 08:18 PM
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mpmendenhall wrote:
I don't recall the earlier Canada version that I had having particularly stronger veiling flare than my newer one, although I never did a careful test for this property. Even the newer one has slightly lower contrast wide open (like nearly all fast-50s of this type of design) compared to stopped down a bit, though both lenses are usually sufficiently contrasty.

As I now edited my previous post to say, "E55" is printed on the newest German versions, but still refers to the filter ring size; both the Canada and German versions might be referred to as "E55" (to distinguish them
...Show more

My copy at least shows more than just a slight contrast boost at F4 compared to wide open. It's decently sharp wide open but the contrast is low and, in flat light, that might give the appearance of softness.

While I have owned lenses of this basic design that outperformed the Leica wide open, they did not have the combination of sparkling brilliance and color when stopped down to F4.



Jun 12, 2011 at 08:27 PM
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Tariq Gibran wrote:
While I have owned lenses of this basic design that outperformed the Leica wide open, they did not have the combination of sparkling brilliance and color when stopped down to F4.


What I like about the 'Cron-R 50 is that, while for any particular characteristic (wide open sharpness, corner sharpness, contrast, bokeh, etc.) you can probably find a lens that is better, the Cron is a wonderfully "balanced" lens that is pretty good at everything at once, making it an excellent all-purpose lens that reliably produces very "pleasant" images under nearly all conditions.
'Cron-R 50 wide open:
http://praetoriusphoto.images.s3.amazonaws.com/fmforums/20110612_cron50_camper.jpg
and here (unknown aperture) against some difficult back-lighting:
http://praetoriusphoto.images.s3.amazonaws.com/fmforums/20110612_cron50_stand.jpg



Jun 12, 2011 at 08:57 PM
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p.38 #19 · Leica R Series Lenses


+55 :-)
I haven't used an E60 Summilux 50 (and would love to!) but if for some silly reason I had to have only one lens to use the rest of my mortal days, that I currently posses, it would probably be my 50 ROM, not that the chip matters. It just churns out great-looking images that look "right" from go. Ideal color, ideal sharpness, you name it.

It's definitely one of my "top ten desert island lenses", to borrow from the mix-tape/music-is-life methodology.

mpmendenhall wrote:
What I like about the 'Cron-R 50 is that...the Cron is a wonderfully "balanced" lens that is pretty good at everything at once, making it an excellent all-purpose lens that reliably produces very "pleasant" images under nearly all conditions.




Jun 12, 2011 at 09:03 PM
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p.38 #20 · Leica R Series Lenses


I would like to add the fact that this lens, the R mount Leica 50f2 Summicron,
seems to not need, nor want much PP work.
I like this a lot!
I find my Minolta Rokkor 58f1.2 is the same in the PP aspect, not needing much.



Jun 13, 2011 at 01:18 PM
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