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zhangyue
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p.338 #1Leica R Series Lenses


Great images, guys.
Teiki, Glad to know you are fine. Feel extreme shock and sad about what happen to your country.

80lux 3 images stitched





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Nov 15, 2015 at 12:19 PM
inglis
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p.338 #2Leica R Series Lenses


Has anyone used the Leica R 21-35 on the Sony A7II?
I realize from posts at FM that it is not perfect into the corners, but wonder what it is like on this camera and resolution.
What are people's thoughts?
John



Nov 16, 2015 at 03:01 PM
Luvwine
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p.338 #3Leica R Series Lenses


Cross post from FE images thread: Leica 180/2.8 apo with 1.4x apo extender on A7r2:




Nov 16, 2015 at 09:23 PM
zhangyue
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p.338 #4Leica R Series Lenses


school day sucks










feel better





Ready now





90cron R all WO



Nov 17, 2015 at 11:55 AM
teiki arii
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p.338 #5Leica R Series Lenses


zhangyue,
what beautiful portraits!



Nov 17, 2015 at 01:37 PM
teiki arii
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p.338 #6Leica R Series Lenses


Hi everyone,
little surgery this morning.
My second son is the cobaye...





Leica Summicron-R 50/2 @ 2.8







Leica Summicron-R 50/2 @ 2.8



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Nov 19, 2015 at 09:21 AM
zhangyue
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p.338 #7Leica R Series Lenses


Another typical night

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Nov 19, 2015 at 06:13 PM
JonPB
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p.338 #8Leica R Series Lenses


I've been neglecting this thread as I try to figure out what to put behind my R lenses, and am otherwise distracted. But then I see some of these images and think, "oh, I quite obviously need those lenses, too," even when I already have a copy. Very tempted to pick up Alan's pair on the FS right now...

Teiki, Steve, Rich, Roni... everyone. Thanks for posting. Michael, I think you're the worst for me at "I never take images like that, but I should have that lens in case I want to." The third photo with your daughter's hands in the air is perfectly ambiguous between frustration and satisfaction.

So, here are a few from me of late:


Pre plays fetch (6) with 90/2, wide open. (Sometimes misses are hits.)


Corner office space. with 21-35 @ 21mm, f/8 or f/11. New tripod that's small enough for me to carry regularly. (Sirui 1025x.)

Cheers,
Jon



Nov 19, 2015 at 08:21 PM
inglis
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p.338 #9Leica R Series Lenses


Jon,
which cameras are you considering?
John



Nov 19, 2015 at 09:24 PM
JonPB
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p.338 #10Leica R Series Lenses


John,

Oi. :-)

The easy answer is "all of them." The honest answer is between an SL and investing in the development of a fully featured FE-R adapter.

I'm approaching the conclusion that Sony cameras represent an awkward compromise between color and monochrome imaging. I'm convinced that this is because Sony sees high sensitivity as a unique selling point and so they thin their color filter array as much as possible. The result being color, yes; color differentiation, not so much. But, there's enough color data there to correct for lateral CA and to apply color filters in post, which are both quite valuable. Still, I see my images in color and I want those images to look good in color.

Leica and Canon are the only companies making 24x36mm sensor cameras with colors that I like these days. (Smaller sensors don't work for me because I like these particular lenses, and the Speed Booster is just too much of a compromise after shooting with it for a good year and a half.) Canon doesn't work because it requires either shaving the mirror or removing optical/physical protection from my lenses. I have no objection to meddling with hardware, but I have a hard time believing that removing even a few grams of weight from the mirror wouldn't have unwanted consequences on the reflex mechanism. (And Canon lenses don't tempt me to jump ship. At all.) So, that leaves Leica.

The M9 is appealing. Not so good at high ISO, but I'm mostly a base-ISO shooter. I'm a slow subject shooter, so point, scale focus, chimp, and refine would work for a lot of my shooting. But that's still a pain. The M240 is better. I consider their base ISO colors to be equivalent. They both differentiate color well and I figure that the difference between the two cameras is mostly down to how each user (and their software) defaults to mapping the sensor to the color space. However, the 240's viewfinder is ungainly at best and unreliable at worst. I feel like the M240 would be more aggravating than the M9, even if it sometimes works much better.

And then there's the SL. Great color from everything I've seen. Great handling and performance from everything I've read. With the SL, the weak point is the adapter, as today they're offering us a stacked L-M and M-R adapter "solution." That's brilliant, in a way, as I'm more likely to buy into the M system that way ... but it isn't what I want. What I'd like to see is an adapter that allows the camera to show (and select) the lens' aperture; recording EXIF data (lens, focal length, aperture) would also be nice. I can't see a technical reason why this adapter can't exist. Nonetheless, Leica has given us no reason to expect that such an adapter will be released.

If Leica does release a fully featured L-R adapter, then it'll just be a question of saving up to buy that without putting the roof over my head (or prospects of someday retiring) in jeopardy.

Finally, there's the dark horse of making my own adapter. The FE mount is semi-open; all you have to do is get your company to convince Sony that you're legit, sign a non-compete, and they'll share lens mount specs with you. The R mount is public domain; all you need to do is reverse engineer it. ;-) (Which is to say, the ROM patent protection in the U.S. appears to have expired, but the patents didn't disclose much that appears, at face value, to be very useful.) So, with the help of some folks I know, with a bit of electrical and mechanical engineering, and with far more prototypes machined and soldered than I expected to have to go through, I don't see why I couldn't make a full featured FE to R adapter. I suspect I could get to proof of concept for about as much as it'd cost to buy an SL and L-R adapter, and then to full production with modest investment on the premise of selling ~100 copies over the next two years or so. So, if Leica doesn't release such a thing, and I'm willing to limit my "serious" work to B&W, I bet I could make an adapter that would allow me to fully enjoy the R lenses I like so much.

On the side are the medium format options. I could jump ship to an S 006 with a 70, or perhaps I could find a Pentax 645D and 28-45, though these systems would lean toward larger and less replaceable than I'd really like.

There is an insane range of highly desirable kits out there but none of them really land in the sweet spot of "that's what I need." So, I'm building up the coffers, trying not to buy every R lens ever made, shooting with what I've already got in my bag (A7 II), and waiting for determination to strike.

Cheers,
Jon



Nov 19, 2015 at 10:11 PM
 


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teiki arii
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p.338 #11Leica R Series Lenses


Hi Jon,
thank you very much for your little words and for your interesting speech about Leica-R lenses....
If you could produce a clever Leica-R-SL adaptater, I would ecnomize for further Leica SL2.



Nov 20, 2015 at 10:11 AM
clmusic
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p.338 #12Leica R Series Lenses


Michael's photos with the R80 inspired me to pull out mine and put it in use. Here is one taken this evening (in pretty dark stair case with bad lighting).




Nov 20, 2015 at 09:31 PM
teiki arii
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p.338 #13Leica R Series Lenses


Good evening...
No time to focus for Anthime...





Naline, Leica-R 28/2.8 @ f:5.6.







Anthime, Leica-R 28/2.8 @ f:8.0.




Nov 22, 2015 at 01:44 PM
Lieutenant Z
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p.338 #14Leica R Series Lenses


Top notch Teiki ^^^^

50 R Cron :









Nov 23, 2015 at 11:28 AM
teiki arii
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p.338 #15Leica R Series Lenses


Naline & Anthime...





Leica Modular Apo-Telyt-R 280/2.8 @ f:4.8, square format, hand-held.




Nov 23, 2015 at 03:01 PM
Alpha_Geist
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p.338 #16Leica R Series Lenses


Cross posted from the Alt Film Thread. I've been itching to go out and shoot more film, but end of the year work consumes too much time. I just scan and process negatives from a recent trip when time permits. It doesn't help...just makes me want to shoot even more.

Nikon FM3A / 35mm Elmarit-R / Kodak Tri-X

US Olympic Training Center - Burden by Alpha Geist, on Flickr



Nov 24, 2015 at 07:25 PM
JonPB
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p.338 #17Leica R Series Lenses


Getting back into the groove of taking pictures during my commutes. Such a pleasant hobby even when there's nothing to show for it.

Elmarit-R 28 II.


Good morning, Portland. (19? Let's call it 19.)

Cheers,
Jon



Nov 24, 2015 at 09:30 PM
inglis
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p.338 #18Leica R Series Lenses


Jon,
Would be great to crowd source a FE to R adaptor, or even test the waters to check interest. I would certainly be interested.
John
love the bridge sign on the upper left!



Nov 25, 2015 at 05:57 PM
Alpha_Geist
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p.338 #19Leica R Series Lenses


FE to R adapter? Shoot your FE mount lenses on a Leica R SLR? I don't recall any "native" FE lenses with manual aperture control. Would still be interesting nevertheless!

There are R to F(E) adapters though!

One from my sold 35 Cron-R.

Leica 35mm Summicron-R ROM by Alpha Geist, on Flickr



Nov 25, 2015 at 07:23 PM
JonPB
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p.338 #20Leica R Series Lenses


Alpha_Geist wrote:
FE to R adapter? Shoot your FE mount lenses on a Leica R SLR? I don't recall any "native" FE lenses with manual aperture control. Would still be interesting nevertheless!


I know you say it in jest, but I'm curious if there's any logic to the ordering of the adapter names. For some reason, body-to-lens (e.g., FE to R) makes intuitive sense to me, perhaps because I think of photography gear as comprising lenses and lens accessories.

While we're at it, why are apertures represented as, e.g., 1:2/50, rather than just 50/2?

Cheers,
Jon



Nov 25, 2015 at 07:34 PM
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