Im sorry, maybe too late. The difference between 1-st and 2-nd:
1. Rendering. The 1-st have old style renderind (60-70th years lenses), more soft sometimes and blury. With controlled light the center sharpness high.
2. 1-st have old coatings and lower contrast against strong flashlights.
3. 1-st have more curvature of field to corners.
So if u planning universal lens - of course 2-nd ver. If interesting bokeh and rendering - maybe even 1-st would be more interesting. Btw, 1-cam ver. very difficult for modification for nikon for example - it have non-screwed cam and need to shave it. The 2-cam ver. have common internal design.
Couple more shots from today... I even brought out the 35 Cron to play with, which was a mistake, 'cause I didn't want to put IT down!!
Thanks for looking,
Gregg
The best first...50 Lux think at f2, maybe wide open, and barely any PP done, including NO sharpening!!
35 Cron @f2.8, I think...sorry for the naked butt!!
Greggf wrote:
And then someone tell me...What are those spots all over my circles?
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There is likely some crud in the lens on the glass somewhere... maybe oil spots?
Back a while ago, I did some similar shots with a Canon 400/2.8 (first version in EF mount) and noticed a strange line in the middle of the OOF light blobs... Looking very closely into the lens, I noticed what appeared to be a manufacturing defect in the surface of one of the elements - like a deep scratch... While the lens worked fine in normal use, the defect always appeared in OOF specular highlights... and was just one more reason I quickly got the Mark II version when it became available...
Shining a light through your lens while inspecting it might make the spots more visible and identifiable..
Horses for courses. My 6D is irreplaceable for (a) landscape use with the TSE 24/3.5 II (which is too big for the a7 and needs an adapter which costs as much as a 50 Summicron R), (b) BIF with my EF 70-200/4 and 400/5.6 and (c) macro with the R 100 AME (again a little big for the a7). For (a) and (c) I use the lenses tripod mounted and check critical focus with the fantastic EOS Remote app on my Galaxy. For everything else, including all walk-around and travel the a7 is perfect. redisburning wrote:
Michael,
the Leica R + A7r combo seems to deliver nice color (second pic). Certainly better than 6D for me. What do you think?
Gregg, just adding to the two comments above. Those spots only show up in such OOF circles and don't affect the quality otherwise. Hopefully those are on one or the other outside lens surface.
Trying to get Christmas tree bokeh recently with a ~1967 Nikon 55 f1.2, I saw two consistent smudges in each OOF circle (or shape ) along with little spots.
Turned out there were two fingertip smudges on the front, which were easily cleaned off. But the little dirt particles I saw on inside surfaces I will just live with and just remember not to shine a light through the lens.
Thank you everyone for all the likes! I'm really enjoying the R craze at the moment! Haven't gotten out much to actually take real photos, besides my kids and stuff around the house, but I'll be taking a little time off once the "season" is over, and I'm not working 12 hour days!! The person that loaned me the 4 R lenses(2.8/24 E60, 2/35, 2/50, & 2.8/90) is back from vacation. I talked to her husband and told him to tell her that I'll give the "R's" back when I'm bloody we'll ready!!! Of course, I was kidding, but hopefully she'll let me keep them for a awhile longer. The Elmarit 24 hits the mirror on my 1D4 depending on focus distance, but the other 3 I have used quite a bit....well, except the 50 Cron, since I bought my 50 Lux
Anyways, I'm rambling....
The bokeh spots really show up in the Xmas tree pic mainly because I boosted the shadows and exposure by 1+ stops, to get the desired effect!! I've looked through the lens with a flashlight, and did see a few spots, but nothing too bad...well, nothing that I can't live with.
Thank you everyone for the input...
Gregg
A few from this weekend again...once the holidays are gone, I will be able to get out and actually takes pics of something other than my kids!! I promise! But for now, you must suffer...
Gregg
Damn Binkie!!! 90 Elmarit f2.8
Double damn binkie!! 35 Cron at 2.8, and NO PP whatsoever, except convert to BW
Greggf wrote:
A few from this weekend again...once the holidays are gone, I will be able to get out and actually takes pics of something other than my kids!! I promise! But for now, you must suffer...
Gregg
What I like is to to have been a silent part of your photographic journey and it is a delight to have followed your route to acquire Leica glass as well as your trepidation and experience shooting with Leica glass.
So thank you for sharing with us.
Beauty in art is always the perfect unison between the man, his imagination and his tools.
This is what photography is all about.....enjoying yourself and sharing your journey.
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I still miss the 6D for everything else but I am struggle with skin tone with that camera for my taste. Otherwise, a lovely body. 
