Leica R Series Lenses
p.242 #2Leica R Series Lenses
naturephoto1 wrote:
And we thought the last one on ebay was expensive and had a high asking price (Buy it Now):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Leica-R-Vario-Elmarit-2-8-35-70-mm-3839195-ROM-Asph-/160975045776?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item257adc4490
Rich
Worth every cent! Leica sold them new at a loss!
And we thought the last one on ebay was expensive and had a high asking price (Buy it Now):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Leica-R-Vario-Elmarit-2-8-35-70-mm-3839195-ROM-Asph-/160975045776?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item257adc4490
Rich
Worth every cent! Leica sold them new at a loss!
Dec 05, 2013 at 01:02 PM
p.242 #3Leica R Series Lenses
carstenw wrote:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Leica-R-Vario-Elmarit-2-8-35-70-mm-3839195-ROM-Asph-/160975045776?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item257adc4490
RichWorth every cent! Leica sold them new at a loss!
Carsten,
I will just use my lowly R 35mm-70mm f4 Vario Elmar that also includes a Macro setting.
By the way, I could purchase the entire Modular system for twice that cost.
Rich
naturephoto1 wrote
And we thought the last one on ebay was expensive and had a high asking price (Buy it Now): http://www.ebay.com/itm/Leica-R-Vario-Elmarit-2-8-35-70-mm-3839195-ROM-Asph-/160975045776?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item257adc4490
Rich
Carsten,
I will just use my lowly R 35mm-70mm f4 Vario Elmar that also includes a Macro setting.
By the way, I could purchase the entire Modular system for twice that cost.
Rich
Dec 05, 2013 at 01:16 PM
p.242 #4Leica R Series Lenses
See, twice!
I would love the modular system, but I would never use them. That 35-70/2.8 I might actually use.
I would love the modular system, but I would never use them. That 35-70/2.8 I might actually use.
Dec 05, 2013 at 01:21 PM
p.242 #5Leica R Series Lenses
Worldinlens wrote:
Jack, im waiting your a7r with you )
Alex, few test shots by focal length:
@f/8
@f/2.8
@f/2.8
WO:
JaKo wrote
After a whole week of staying away from FM forum and hoping to post new shots with Sony A7R (still waiting for it!) I had to like what I have, trusty D800E. Oh well)Alex, few test shots by focal length:
@f/8
@f/2.8
@f/2.8
WO:
Dec 05, 2013 at 02:28 PM
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p.242 #6Leica R Series Lenses
Jack, i love your expirience with d800e kind of sensor. One of the best constant colour what I saw. R28 - first!!! I knows that )
Raw possible for this shots?
) Raw possible for this shots?
Dec 05, 2013 at 04:34 PM
p.242 #7Leica R Series Lenses
(NEX 3, Speed Booster, Summicron R 50, 35mm/1.4)
(Same kit, 35mm/4)
Dec 05, 2013 at 06:08 PM
p.242 #8Leica R Series Lenses
Worldinlens wrote:
Jack, i love your expirience with d800e kind of sensor. One of the best constant colour what I saw. R28 - first!!! I knows that)
Raw possible for this shots?
Thanks Alex.
Yep, tested Elmarit-R 28 this afternoon and it shines on AA-less A7R.
PM-ed you link to today's RAW files. It's over 1GB, but I have 20+ MB upload speed so it should be fast.
Jack, i love your expirience with d800e kind of sensor. One of the best constant colour what I saw. R28 - first!!! I knows that
) Raw possible for this shots?
Thanks Alex.
Yep, tested Elmarit-R 28 this afternoon and it shines on AA-less A7R.
PM-ed you link to today's RAW files. It's over 1GB, but I have 20+ MB upload speed so it should be fast.
Dec 05, 2013 at 08:02 PM
p.242 #9Leica R Series Lenses
Jack,
Looks great. I have a lead on an R 28mm f2.8mm Elmarit V2 that I expect to purchase in a couple of weeks.
Rich
Edited on Dec 05, 2013 at 09:21 PM · View previous versions
Looks great. I have a lead on an R 28mm f2.8mm Elmarit V2 that I expect to purchase in a couple of weeks.
Rich
Edited on Dec 05, 2013 at 09:21 PM · View previous versions
Dec 05, 2013 at 08:07 PM
p.242 #10Leica R Series Lenses
Richard, nice work with the A7r + 100
Jack, as usual very nicely done.
Jack, as usual very nicely done.
Dec 05, 2013 at 09:13 PM
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p.242 #11Leica R Series Lenses
Thank you Manu.
Got you PM about new CV 35/1.2 you got. Exciting; I hope you can post test shots with Zeiss 2/35, Cron-R 35 and CV.
Man, Summillux-R 80 looks humongous on A7R! Said that, with my only RF lens I have to search/ 'feel' for correct aperture/focus rings. For now, Leica-R, especially SUmmicron-R feel just right.
Rich; get one in a good shape. Most likely you will keep it for ages!
Got you PM about new CV 35/1.2 you got. Exciting; I hope you can post test shots with Zeiss 2/35, Cron-R 35 and CV.
Man, Summillux-R 80 looks humongous on A7R! Said that, with my only RF lens I have to search/ 'feel' for correct aperture/focus rings. For now, Leica-R, especially SUmmicron-R feel just right.
Rich; get one in a good shape. Most likely you will keep it for ages!
Dec 05, 2013 at 09:31 PM
p.242 #12Leica R Series Lenses
JonPB wrote:
https://5ahtbg.bn1301.livefilestore.com/y2pTbfGvZ-8ayWiWRs1DxtidhBRCm03rncDwAWoyzvlVmlBDJMRFbH5AZA5MR5T0-atm8LqnM6KYWz5i6Sindvakc0BDPhEHaOKs3svHj-w-Z8/1312041829.jpg
(NEX 3, Speed Booster, Summicron R 50, 35mm/1.4)
https://5ahtbg.bn1303.livefilestore.com/y2pLSFqgjvg_rjk9t0m-Unhy_Dqj8eNxHHIAM_R__hHX0HaNxia38nJL7a0TnEYPUfKz4U6gHRCzyPalsTJTualG3ehiWKAhPBnITmLEYYnU1Y/1312041921.jpg
(Same kit, 35mm/4)
please repost I want to see these. Your links aren't valid. maybe another host like flickr?
https://5ahtbg.bn1301.livefilestore.com/y2pTbfGvZ-8ayWiWRs1DxtidhBRCm03rncDwAWoyzvlVmlBDJMRFbH5AZA5MR5T0-atm8LqnM6KYWz5i6Sindvakc0BDPhEHaOKs3svHj-w-Z8/1312041829.jpg
(NEX 3, Speed Booster, Summicron R 50, 35mm/1.4)
https://5ahtbg.bn1303.livefilestore.com/y2pLSFqgjvg_rjk9t0m-Unhy_Dqj8eNxHHIAM_R__hHX0HaNxia38nJL7a0TnEYPUfKz4U6gHRCzyPalsTJTualG3ehiWKAhPBnITmLEYYnU1Y/1312041921.jpg
(Same kit, 35mm/4)
please repost I want to see these. Your links aren't valid. maybe another host like flickr?
Dec 05, 2013 at 09:51 PM
p.242 #13Leica R Series Lenses
@Jako...
Love all your images, above! The R 28 works beautifully!! You guys and your A7(r)'s arwe killing ME!! I checked to see if Roger was renting any yet...When he does, I'll have to try...I really loved the RX1..
A couple images with the R 50 Cron..
Thanks for looking,
Gregg
@f8
Stepping out of my UPS truck, and thought I would try a bokeh shot!!
Love all your images, above! The R 28 works beautifully!! You guys and your A7(r)'s arwe killing ME!! I checked to see if Roger was renting any yet...When he does, I'll have to try...I really loved the RX1..
A couple images with the R 50 Cron..
Thanks for looking,
Gregg
@f8
Stepping out of my UPS truck, and thought I would try a bokeh shot!!
Dec 06, 2013 at 12:07 AM
p.242 #14Leica R Series Lenses
Thank you Gregg.
I feel Summicron-R 50 should perform great on any camera, especially FF.
Its resolution is just a side benefit (yes, it's very sharp on 36MP sensor!)
See magic that D700 users pull out of their sleeves with this lens. Even more so with B/W film.
I plan to take few shots with it on A7/R tomorrow or in the next few days.
I feel Summicron-R 50 should perform great on any camera, especially FF.
Its resolution is just a side benefit (yes, it's very sharp on 36MP sensor!)
See magic that D700 users pull out of their sleeves with this lens. Even more so with B/W film.
I plan to take few shots with it on A7/R tomorrow or in the next few days.
Dec 06, 2013 at 12:42 AM
p.242 #15Leica R Series Lenses
Jack, Rich, great images from A7r. Especially feel happy for Rich since you finally find your Leica R glass a new home, hope this new mother treat them well
Got the A7R tonight. with adapter, it is not balance well on most R lens
The best one so far, I'd say 21-35mm and 50cron. But even 50cron, I prefer it is on SLR. it looks abnormal large. 21-35 feel very good compare all the zoom I have seen on any body.
But focus with fast glass is a joy with EVF if you don't care delay and black out time. (I do)
The blank time and shutter feel is not good.(not only sound but response and feeling)
customization is awesome, one of best I have seen. I didn't read the manual but have already set the camera as I wanted 90% in half a hour. Build feels having a small but noticeable step above A7, not bad but not great either. button is very small, I wish they reduce # of button make it bigger.
Manual is long but not confusing as long as you don't need drive into the 100+(I feel) list.
With essential setting on the body, It is not difficult set everything up on body with so many button on it. I wish they have advanced/selective manual so that you can get rid off all the redundant manual option.
I can imagine it will be a good tool for many people, but I will not make it as my sole body, especially for R user who doesn't shoot landscape only.
the image review and zoom is less responsive than Canikon.
I love it over all, will give it 75/100 on build and handling and you all know I am biased.
Manu, with 35 and 50 cron R and Metabone adaptor, I can think of at least a good reason for Novaflex since it is much lighter. Metabone has great build by brass but also 'great' weight.
Hope this helps for leica R folks haven't got their A yet. lens performance will report later, hopefully.
Got the A7R tonight. with adapter, it is not balance well on most R lens
The best one so far, I'd say 21-35mm and 50cron. But even 50cron, I prefer it is on SLR. it looks abnormal large. 21-35 feel very good compare all the zoom I have seen on any body.
But focus with fast glass is a joy with EVF if you don't care delay and black out time. (I do)
The blank time and shutter feel is not good.(not only sound but response and feeling)
customization is awesome, one of best I have seen. I didn't read the manual but have already set the camera as I wanted 90% in half a hour. Build feels having a small but noticeable step above A7, not bad but not great either. button is very small, I wish they reduce # of button make it bigger.
Manual is long but not confusing as long as you don't need drive into the 100+(I feel) list.
With essential setting on the body, It is not difficult set everything up on body with so many button on it. I wish they have advanced/selective manual so that you can get rid off all the redundant manual option.
I can imagine it will be a good tool for many people, but I will not make it as my sole body, especially for R user who doesn't shoot landscape only.
the image review and zoom is less responsive than Canikon.
I love it over all, will give it 75/100 on build and handling
and you all know I am biased. Manu, with 35 and 50 cron R and Metabone adaptor, I can think of at least a good reason for Novaflex since it is much lighter. Metabone has great build by brass but also 'great' weight.
Hope this helps for leica R folks haven't got their A yet. lens performance will report later, hopefully.
Dec 06, 2013 at 02:09 AM
p.242 #16Leica R Series Lenses
Michael, interesting post, thanks.
Actually, I'm not yet convinced by that new Sony camera.
Actually, I'm not yet convinced by that new Sony camera.
Dec 06, 2013 at 03:10 AM
p.242 #17Leica R Series Lenses
Philippe, it isn't perfect, but it is quite good, and a good deal.
Dec 06, 2013 at 03:22 AM
p.242 #18Leica R Series Lenses
Thanks for sharing Zhangyue.
Can't wait for some shot with 21-35.
Also interested in how it go with your 80/1.4
zhangyue wrote:
Jack, Rich, great images from A7r. Especially feel happy for Rich since you finally find your Leica R glass a new home, hope this new mother treat them well
Got the A7R tonight. with adapter, it is not balance well on most R lens
The best one so far, I'd say 21-35mm and 50cron. But even 50cron, I prefer it is on SLR. it looks abnormal large. 21-35 feel very good compare all the zoom I have seen on any body.
But focus with fast glass is a joy with EVF if you don't care delay and black out...Show more →
Can't wait for some shot with 21-35.
Also interested in how it go with your 80/1.4
zhangyue wrote:
Jack, Rich, great images from A7r. Especially feel happy for Rich since you finally find your Leica R glass a new home, hope this new mother treat them well
Got the A7R tonight. with adapter, it is not balance well on most R lens
The best one so far, I'd say 21-35mm and 50cron. But even 50cron, I prefer it is on SLR. it looks abnormal large. 21-35 feel very good compare all the zoom I have seen on any body.
But focus with fast glass is a joy with EVF if you don't care delay and black out...Show more →
Dec 06, 2013 at 06:18 AM
p.242 #20Leica R Series Lenses
zhangyue wrote:
Jack, Rich, great images from A7r. Especially feel happy for Rich since you finally find your Leica R glass a new home, hope this new mother treat them well
Got the A7R tonight. with adapter, it is not balance well on most R lens
The best one so far, I'd say 21-35mm and 50cron. But even 50cron, I prefer it is on SLR. it looks abnormal large. 21-35 feel very good compare all the zoom I have seen on any body.
But focus with fast glass is a joy with EVF if you don't care delay and black out...Show more →
Michael,
Thank you. I am enjoying my new A7r. But, I do shoot probably over more than 90% of my work on a tripod so for me many of your objections do not really apply.
I will say however, firstly, I think most or all of us are going to have to become much better acquainted, more familiar and more comfortable with the controls and the cameras themselves.
As to the balance of the camera with the R lenses, well we know many of them are heavy and they will make things somewhat front heavy particularly for such a small and light camera. But, I will say, that the camera balances and handles with my R lenses better than my M4/3 Lumix G1 and at least equal to my Fujifilm X-E1 with the RRS L bracket and grip. If you do find the camera too small and light though, it might make sense to consider the Sony Vertical Grip, that may also help a bit more with the balance with the heavier R lenses. Also, I will say that I do not think that the M240 would handle even as well as the A7 cameras with the R lenses when you have to add the optional EVF at least until you add the additional Grip to the camera (and quite possibly equal to the M240 with the grip).
Also, some of your observations concerning the camera come from the fact that the A7 and A7r are Mirrorless and use an EVF instead of an optical viewfinder. EVFs have improved substantially over the years and this is the best that I have for any of my cameras. But, Mirrorless cameras still are not as fast for operating operations as cameras with an optical viewfinder. But, as I have indicated, I believe that with practice and more experience with the cameras our success rate and our speed of operation will improve. Obviously these cameras will not work or operate as quickly as an M camera designed for fast focus with someone experienced and adept at using a RF. But, with practice they may approach the speed at least for some of us when compared with an DSLR.
As to your comments regarding the build and handling your A7r only cost about $2300 while and M240 costs $7000. So for having a close to SOA EVF finder, very good build quality, excellent and very current electronics, I think that we should all be extremely pleased with the new camera.
Rich
Jack, Rich, great images from A7r. Especially feel happy for Rich since you finally find your Leica R glass a new home, hope this new mother treat them well
Got the A7R tonight. with adapter, it is not balance well on most R lens
The best one so far, I'd say 21-35mm and 50cron. But even 50cron, I prefer it is on SLR. it looks abnormal large. 21-35 feel very good compare all the zoom I have seen on any body.
But focus with fast glass is a joy with EVF if you don't care delay and black out...Show more →
Michael,
Thank you. I am enjoying my new A7r. But, I do shoot probably over more than 90% of my work on a tripod so for me many of your objections do not really apply.
I will say however, firstly, I think most or all of us are going to have to become much better acquainted, more familiar and more comfortable with the controls and the cameras themselves.
As to the balance of the camera with the R lenses, well we know many of them are heavy and they will make things somewhat front heavy particularly for such a small and light camera. But, I will say, that the camera balances and handles with my R lenses better than my M4/3 Lumix G1 and at least equal to my Fujifilm X-E1 with the RRS L bracket and grip. If you do find the camera too small and light though, it might make sense to consider the Sony Vertical Grip, that may also help a bit more with the balance with the heavier R lenses. Also, I will say that I do not think that the M240 would handle even as well as the A7 cameras with the R lenses when you have to add the optional EVF at least until you add the additional Grip to the camera (and quite possibly equal to the M240 with the grip).
Also, some of your observations concerning the camera come from the fact that the A7 and A7r are Mirrorless and use an EVF instead of an optical viewfinder. EVFs have improved substantially over the years and this is the best that I have for any of my cameras. But, Mirrorless cameras still are not as fast for operating operations as cameras with an optical viewfinder. But, as I have indicated, I believe that with practice and more experience with the cameras our success rate and our speed of operation will improve. Obviously these cameras will not work or operate as quickly as an M camera designed for fast focus with someone experienced and adept at using a RF. But, with practice they may approach the speed at least for some of us when compared with an DSLR.
As to your comments regarding the build and handling your A7r only cost about $2300 while and M240 costs $7000. So for having a close to SOA EVF finder, very good build quality, excellent and very current electronics, I think that we should all be extremely pleased with the new camera.
Rich
Dec 06, 2013 at 06:50 AM