Grenache wrote:
Zeiss has an extra stop, though sharpness is really comparable at 2.8. Leica comes with a nice tripod collar (usually). Zeiss has autoaperture.
There are no bad choices here. As I said, I will probably snag a Zeiss at some point for landscape shots that I want the 3D look for. Not sure that the 3D side shows up appreciably at close up distances, but the bokeh differences are fairly large there.
Jim
The Leica does NOT come with a tripod collar. As far as the sharpness, Lloyd Chambers (www.diglloyd.com) does a detailed comparison of the ZF100 against the Leica 100 APO; his conclusion is they are both stellar world-class performers; advantage to neither on that account. Boils down to whether the extra stop is needed and uncorrected CA in the OOF areas of the Zeiss detrimental to your shooting applications. Also at near-infinity focus the Leica does demonstrate some field curvature, unlike the planar Zeiss, and makes the 100 APO less desirable for stitching landscapes.
j.liam wrote:
The Leica does NOT come with a tripod collar.
Mine did, and I have seen several at fleabay and other sellers with them, so I assumed that it was standard and a question of whether it was lost or kept over time. Comment remains that for the price of the Zeiss, one can pick up a collar too.
Grenache wrote:
The $1800 for the ZE 100 could instead get you a mint Leica 100 APO + 1:1 module. Zeiss vs. Leica is a matter of taste in terms of the bokeh and feel of the image. I have the Leica and have not seen anything that demonstrates that the Zeiss is sharper. I'll probably get one of those too eventually, but since this is the Leica R thread, it seemed worth championing one of the company's best lenses ever.
Wasn't this an image thread, anyway?
Jim
A new Leica 100 APO goes for $4000. Why the price drop?
denoir wrote:
A new Leica 100 APO goes for $4000. Why the price drop?
Second hand Leicas are always substantially cheaper.
I don't think it's because the lens is soft
The one thing I really dislike about the Zeiss is the purple bokeh with green rings around it in OOF point highlights. The Leica doesn't do that, and neither did my 180mm apo-lanthar when I had it. I do like the Zeiss aside from that.
Do you still have that shot of a guy with a red soccer jersey on that was taken with the 90 AA?
That shot really showed off the great sharpness/resolution of that lens wide open.
That photo also shows off the somewhat busy bokeh too. Lloyd Chambers called the 90 AA's bokeh rendering, "alive". It isn't unpleasant but not soft either. Guess that's the price of aspherical elements and sharpness wide-open. Not an unacceptable trade-off.
Ahem, that is not some "red soccer jersey" that is the Furia Roja's home jersey! The Spanish national team won the World Cup this year and I was beside myself. I have been a fan of the Spanish team since the 90's and willwill peacock 'em when necessary.
Thrice needs to re-shoot that with his M9, now - the jersey has changed and now has a single little gold star atop the Kingdom of Spain seal, indicating having won one World Cup title.
Red dot, Red jersey.
wayne seltzer wrote:
Thrice,
Do you still have that shot of a guy with a red soccer jersey on that was taken with the 90 AA?
Or buttering it...