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p.3 #1Mamiya(MF) on Digital Thread
OIC, FD/EOS ... not an issue with Macro (only infinity) ... I knew that. 
Mar 29, 2010 at 02:06 PM
p.3 #2Mamiya(MF) on Digital Thread
A few more pictures with my 120 f4 Macro.I know this lens is not advertised as APO but IMO it must be awful close. First 2 images were @ f4, #3 is f11 or 16
-Jim
1. http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4026/4473757649_07d610f808_b.jpg
2. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2759/4473752119_d9dcb3accc_b.jpg
3 .http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4011/4473748061_13ddbda836_b.jpg
-Jim
1. http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4026/4473757649_07d610f808_b.jpg
2. http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2759/4473752119_d9dcb3accc_b.jpg
3 .http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4011/4473748061_13ddbda836_b.jpg
Mar 29, 2010 at 02:48 PM
p.3 #3Mamiya(MF) on Digital Thread
Gotta love those needles for torture testing 
Sometimes it is APO, other times it is only A
B&H lists it as APO
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/FrameWork/charts/comp_mamiyamed_2.html
Although I've never seen my 150 2.8 A listed as APO ... it's clean enough to make you believe it is.
Oddly enough, they didn't carry it over to their AF lineup.
Sometimes it is APO, other times it is only A
B&H lists it as APO
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/FrameWork/charts/comp_mamiyamed_2.html
Although I've never seen my 150 2.8 A listed as APO ... it's clean enough to make you believe it is.
Oddly enough, they didn't carry it over to their AF lineup.
Mar 29, 2010 at 02:59 PM
p.3 #4Mamiya(MF) on Digital Thread
I usually shoot ZF on my D3 and wanted to have a longer lens to add to my ZF100 on the tele end. I was searching for something different than the 135/2 or 180/2.8 AIS lenses I had and good advice from Conner999 encouraged me to get the Mamiya A 150/f/2.8. I use the Fotodiox adapter.
This is from my first session some weeks ago. I'm pretty sure I shot it at f/2.8, but it could also have been f/4.
http://www.neroli.de/nik/fm/2052_150_f2.8.jpg
Kind regards,
Bernd
This is from my first session some weeks ago. I'm pretty sure I shot it at f/2.8, but it could also have been f/4.
http://www.neroli.de/nik/fm/2052_150_f2.8.jpg
Kind regards,
Bernd
Mar 29, 2010 at 06:02 PM
p.3 #6Mamiya(MF) on Digital Thread
Bernd, that's a great shot. I hope that's your wife, 'cause she's absolutely stunning. Handsome young fellow as well.
I've seen sharper pics, but that's plenty sharp for portraits. Tis pic shows the one thing I do love about most 645 shots, no matter which lens: Nicely saturated colors, with seemingly lots of tonal gradation. I think the 645 has a look closely resembling the typical Minolta 35mm look.
Also, that's some sweet bokeh.
I've seen sharper pics, but that's plenty sharp for portraits. Tis pic shows the one thing I do love about most 645 shots, no matter which lens: Nicely saturated colors, with seemingly lots of tonal gradation. I think the 645 has a look closely resembling the typical Minolta 35mm look.
Also, that's some sweet bokeh.
Mar 29, 2010 at 08:38 PM
p.3 #7Mamiya(MF) on Digital Thread
Cableaddict ...
The tonal gradations are what I find to be the best part of shooting MF glass
150 2.8 A
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3512/3765881317_af60b037ac_b.jpg
The tonal gradations are what I find to be the best part of shooting MF glass
150 2.8 A
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3512/3765881317_af60b037ac_b.jpg
Mar 29, 2010 at 09:20 PM
p.3 #8Mamiya(MF) on Digital Thread
Cableaddict wrote:
Bernd, that's a great shot. I hope that's your wife, 'cause she's absolutely stunning. Handsome young fellow as well.
I've seen sharper pics, but that's plenty sharp for portraits. Tis pic shows the one thing I do love about most 645 shots, no matter which lens: Nicely saturated colors, with seemingly lots of tonal gradation. I think the 645 has a look closely resembling the typical Minolta 35mm look.
Also, that's some sweet bokeh.
+1 I agree that it's not as sharp as a 90AA or Planar 100 would be but I like the look. Looking at all the images in this thread, I see a lot of the look I've always associated with MF. Maybe it's the tonal gradation, I'm not sure, but I can see it and like it.
I might be interested in one of the 80mm versions. The f/4 macro shots are very impressive. Anybody have any portraits shots done with it?
Bernd, that's a great shot. I hope that's your wife, 'cause she's absolutely stunning. Handsome young fellow as well.
I've seen sharper pics, but that's plenty sharp for portraits. Tis pic shows the one thing I do love about most 645 shots, no matter which lens: Nicely saturated colors, with seemingly lots of tonal gradation. I think the 645 has a look closely resembling the typical Minolta 35mm look.
Also, that's some sweet bokeh.
+1 I agree that it's not as sharp as a 90AA or Planar 100 would be but I like the look. Looking at all the images in this thread, I see a lot of the look I've always associated with MF. Maybe it's the tonal gradation, I'm not sure, but I can see it and like it.
I might be interested in one of the 80mm versions. The f/4 macro shots are very impressive. Anybody have any portraits shots done with it?
Mar 29, 2010 at 09:54 PM
p.3 #9Mamiya(MF) on Digital Thread
RustyBug wrote:
Bernd ... welcome to the club.
Thanks
Cableaddict wrote:
Bernd, that's a great shot. I hope that's your wife, 'cause she's absolutely stunning. Handsome young fellow as well.
Thank you. No and yeah, she absolutely is. It's a girl.
Cableaddict wrote:
I've seen sharper pics, but that's plenty sharp for portraits. Tis pic shows the one thing I do love about most 645 shots, no matter which lens: Nicely saturated colors, with seemingly lots of tonal gradation. I think the 645 has a look closely resembling the typical Minolta 35mm look.
Also, that's some sweet bokeh.
zombii wrote:
+1 I agree that it's not as sharp as a 90AA or Planar 100 would be but I like the look. Looking at all the images in this thread, I see a lot of the look I've always associated with MF. Maybe it's the tonal gradation, I'm not sure, but I can see it and like it.
Though you will have surely noticed already I want to add, that I applied some skin smoothening (and vignette obviously), which contributes to the overall softness I wanted for this picture. Also I am rather conservative with applying additional contrast. On the web-sized picture I showed this may sum up to too much softness.
I have a 40cm wide print of this and believe me, no one in the world would debate about sharpness having seen the print.
Surely this lens' sharpness doesn't match the 90AA/ZF100 (I could supply a comparison with the latter), but I was amazed how defined it is from the get-go (no coma, good sharpness). It's not APO, but works to that direction, CA seems well controlled from the few pictures I made.
I bought it for portraits and find it really great for this. I love the gentle colors and tonal transitions.
Here's another shot, slightly larger, no skin-smoothening, but still vignette added:
http://www.neroli.de/nik/fm/2070_150_f2.8.jpg
Kind regards,
Bernd
Bernd ... welcome to the club.
Thanks
Cableaddict wrote:
Bernd, that's a great shot. I hope that's your wife, 'cause she's absolutely stunning. Handsome young fellow as well.
Thank you. No and yeah, she absolutely is. It's a girl.
Cableaddict wrote:
I've seen sharper pics, but that's plenty sharp for portraits. Tis pic shows the one thing I do love about most 645 shots, no matter which lens: Nicely saturated colors, with seemingly lots of tonal gradation. I think the 645 has a look closely resembling the typical Minolta 35mm look.
Also, that's some sweet bokeh.
zombii wrote:
+1 I agree that it's not as sharp as a 90AA or Planar 100 would be but I like the look. Looking at all the images in this thread, I see a lot of the look I've always associated with MF. Maybe it's the tonal gradation, I'm not sure, but I can see it and like it.
Though you will have surely noticed already I want to add, that I applied some skin smoothening (and vignette obviously), which contributes to the overall softness I wanted for this picture. Also I am rather conservative with applying additional contrast. On the web-sized picture I showed this may sum up to too much softness.
I have a 40cm wide print of this and believe me, no one in the world would debate about sharpness having seen the print.
Surely this lens' sharpness doesn't match the 90AA/ZF100 (I could supply a comparison with the latter), but I was amazed how defined it is from the get-go (no coma, good sharpness). It's not APO, but works to that direction, CA seems well controlled from the few pictures I made.
I bought it for portraits and find it really great for this. I love the gentle colors and tonal transitions.
Here's another shot, slightly larger, no skin-smoothening, but still vignette added:
http://www.neroli.de/nik/fm/2070_150_f2.8.jpg
Kind regards,
Bernd
Mar 30, 2010 at 04:16 AM
p.3 #10Mamiya(MF) on Digital Thread
Hey Bernd - welcome. As you say, the prints from these shots (still love seeing them) have got be stellar.
Rusty - The 150/2.8A actually was reformulated a couple of years ago into an AFD variant - with pricing to match. Apparently it makes the MF version look like a sandblasted coke bottle. One place for sample shots and commentary on the glass is the MF section at www.getdpi.com. It's considered by many experienced uber-glass junkies as the best, or one of the very best, lens they've ever used across any formats. Knowing these guys and their gear closets, that's saying a lot. Sadly, it's electronic aperture control only, so no 35mm use.
While Mamiya used the "A" designation for indicate ULD glass vs "APO" for the white (M645) APO lenses (200, 300, 500), you'll often see the 120/4 and 150/2.8 A's listed as "APO" on sites.
Rusty - The 150/2.8A actually was reformulated a couple of years ago into an AFD variant - with pricing to match. Apparently it makes the MF version look like a sandblasted coke bottle. One place for sample shots and commentary on the glass is the MF section at www.getdpi.com. It's considered by many experienced uber-glass junkies as the best, or one of the very best, lens they've ever used across any formats. Knowing these guys and their gear closets, that's saying a lot. Sadly, it's electronic aperture control only, so no 35mm use.
While Mamiya used the "A" designation for indicate ULD glass vs "APO" for the white (M645) APO lenses (200, 300, 500), you'll often see the 120/4 and 150/2.8 A's listed as "APO" on sites.
Mar 30, 2010 at 05:27 AM
p.3 #11Mamiya(MF) on Digital Thread
Conner, thanks for that morsel.
I was almost certain there was an AF version of the 150 2.8.
It is pricey so for now the 3.5 will have to do but my preliminary results look very good on 645.
I was almost certain there was an AF version of the 150 2.8.
It is pricey so for now the 3.5 will have to do but my preliminary results look very good on 645.
Mar 30, 2010 at 06:06 AM
p.3 #12Mamiya(MF) on Digital Thread
No worries - I had a 3.5 for years before I switched to the 2.8A and quite liked it.
Mar 30, 2010 at 06:30 AM
p.3 #13Mamiya(MF) on Digital Thread
Cannot let this thread die so quickly.Here are a few i posted on the Alt thread forum.
-Jim
All taken with 120f4 Macro
1.f4 iso 100 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2440/4479569995_85592c522f_b.jpg
2 f4 iso 100 .http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4018/4480213748_f986467d2e_b.jpg
3. f5.6 iso 1600 http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4008/4479561787_969403dc96_b.jpg
4. f4 iso 200 http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4023/4479846809_b2d788e7b2_b.jpg
-Jim
All taken with 120f4 Macro
1.f4 iso 100 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2440/4479569995_85592c522f_b.jpg
2 f4 iso 100 .http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4018/4480213748_f986467d2e_b.jpg
3. f5.6 iso 1600 http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4008/4479561787_969403dc96_b.jpg
4. f4 iso 200 http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4023/4479846809_b2d788e7b2_b.jpg
Mar 31, 2010 at 04:17 PM
p.3 #14Mamiya(MF) on Digital Thread
Those are nice, Jim. I ordered my 645/EOS adapter from Fotodiox and got the shipping confirmation. Then got another message shortly thereafter saying to ignore the first message...back ordered. 
Nice to see that the 645 glass works well on a Canon body...I have a few gathering dust that I'm looking forward to trying out.
Nice to see that the 645 glass works well on a Canon body...I have a few gathering dust that I'm looking forward to trying out.
Mar 31, 2010 at 07:56 PM
p.3 #15Mamiya(MF) on Digital Thread
Mike ... I ordered my FotoDiox adapter through Amazon. It was cheaper, no shipping & no taxes (IL). I'm not sure who's doing the fulfillment though ... if it's Amazon, or FotoDiox ... worth a look.
Amazon's showing in stock ... delivery by Friday available 79.95.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_12?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=fotodiox+mamiya&sprefix=fotodiox+mam
Amazon's showing in stock ... delivery by Friday available 79.95.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_12?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=fotodiox+mamiya&sprefix=fotodiox+mam
Mar 31, 2010 at 08:02 PM
p.3 #16Mamiya(MF) on Digital Thread
RustyBug wrote:
Mike ... I ordered my FotoDiox adapter through Amazon. It was cheaper, no shipping & no taxes (IL). I'm not sure who's doing the fulfillment though ... if it's Amazon, or FotoDiox ... worth a look.
Amazon's showing in stock ... delivery by Friday available 79.95.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_12?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=fotodiox+mamiya&sprefix=fotodiox+mam
Thanks for the link, Kent. I checked it, and the adapter is shipped from Fotodiox. I ordered it anyway, if only to save a few bucks, plus cashed in a $50 Amazon gift card at the same time. Not a bad deal...
Mike ... I ordered my FotoDiox adapter through Amazon. It was cheaper, no shipping & no taxes (IL). I'm not sure who's doing the fulfillment though ... if it's Amazon, or FotoDiox ... worth a look.
Amazon's showing in stock ... delivery by Friday available 79.95.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_12?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=fotodiox+mamiya&sprefix=fotodiox+mam
Thanks for the link, Kent. I checked it, and the adapter is shipped from Fotodiox. I ordered it anyway, if only to save a few bucks, plus cashed in a $50 Amazon gift card at the same time. Not a bad deal...
Apr 01, 2010 at 06:13 AM
p.3 #18Mamiya(MF) on Digital Thread
Are these lenses better than any L glass?
A lot better, or slightly?
I just got a 5DMkII, and I want some really good glass.
A lot better, or slightly?
I just got a 5DMkII, and I want some really good glass.
Apr 01, 2010 at 12:52 PM
p.3 #19Mamiya(MF) on Digital Thread
Some taken with my Mamiya 45 f2.8
-Jim
1.f8 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2735/4482423034_7f84380695_b.jpg
2.f8-11 in harsh noon sun -portrait picture style in DPP http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4068/4481829597_b257d3699a_b.jpg
3.f2.8 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2677/4482484470_b79274b889_b.jpg
4.f2.8 http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4018/4482489342_910dc4bb1c_b.jpg
-Jim
1.f8 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2735/4482423034_7f84380695_b.jpg
2.f8-11 in harsh noon sun -portrait picture style in DPP http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4068/4481829597_b257d3699a_b.jpg
3.f2.8 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2677/4482484470_b79274b889_b.jpg
4.f2.8 http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4018/4482489342_910dc4bb1c_b.jpg
Apr 01, 2010 at 01:51 PM
p.3 #20Mamiya(MF) on Digital Thread
Well...since Fotodiox gave me a two week wait due to backorder status, I ordered the adapter through Amazon to use up a gift card before I lost it. Fotodiox canceled my ordered and agreed to apply a credit to my credit card. Strangely, one hour later, the adapter from Fotodiox appears in the mailbox, and the adapter through Amazon will probably be here Monday. To make a long story short, I'll be looking to sell one of the adapters or just return it to Fotodiox. If anyone is interested in a brand new Mamiya 645/EOS adapter, drop me an email or PM. Due to the 'niche' market for alt gear, putting it on the B/S board may take some time to sell. If there's no interest here, I'll just simply return it.
By the way, Jim...I took some backyard test shots yesterday with my 45/2.8 and the 75-150/4.5 zoom on my 5D2. All I can say is wow...the images SOOC look very impressive. I'll give the 80/1.9 a shot today. FWIW, all of my lenses are the 'C' version, and if they look that good, I'm not sure what the 'N' version will do as far as IQ goes. I'll give them another spin later today and post a few up.
By the way, Jim...I took some backyard test shots yesterday with my 45/2.8 and the 75-150/4.5 zoom on my 5D2. All I can say is wow...the images SOOC look very impressive. I'll give the 80/1.9 a shot today. FWIW, all of my lenses are the 'C' version, and if they look that good, I'm not sure what the 'N' version will do as far as IQ goes. I'll give them another spin later today and post a few up.
Apr 03, 2010 at 05:07 AM