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chez wrote:
Now, being a "Canon Ambassador" I wonder if his reviews might have been a little bit slanted. Can someone tell me how a Canon Ambassador is different than being a Nikon whore?


both likely a bit rotten



Mar 27, 2010 at 06:09 PM
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Canon gave Ole the ambassador badge. This (IMHO) gave both sides some obligations: Ole had to endorse and promote Canon, Canon had to provide Ole with stuff. It seems Canon hasn't done its part but Nikon was there to provide.



Mar 27, 2010 at 06:29 PM
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rd4tile wrote:
Huh? How are you going to disguise that ugly Nikon body


All it said was that it didn't say Canon on it. Didn't say anything about the looks of the better ergonomically designed body.



Mar 27, 2010 at 09:49 PM
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Chris Beaumont wrote:
That's what I'm saying, in print I find the IQ differences between nearly all cameras negligable, it's the sensor size, AF quality, FPS and all the other features that help you get the image that's important to me.


And if you look at AF quality, FPS, and all the other features that help you get the image, many people who've tried both would say the Nikon D700/D3/D3s are better than the Canon 5D2 and 1D3, especially if higher iso is more important than higher resolution. It's a bit of a tossup with the 1D4, but for Canon users looking for a high frame rate, serious AF, full framer, there is no contest, because Canon's only entry is at a price level most of us can't even think of affording. This is frustrating.



Mar 28, 2010 at 12:46 AM
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p.5 #5 · Ole Jorgen moves to Nikon


Why the hate?


Mar 28, 2010 at 08:21 AM
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Grognard wrote:
Why the hate?


Why not? Would you expect human nature to change? There are many pious members of the Canon religion on this board.



Mar 28, 2010 at 08:27 AM
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skibum5 wrote:
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I forget but is this the guy who said the 50D focused faster than the 1D3 and had a truly top AI Servo system?? Not sure, that might have been the other guy.
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Nope, that was Art Morris. To be more specific he said that the center AF point only on the 50D did a better job of tracking BIFs than the center AF point of the 1D3. Some have corroborated, some refuted...



Mar 28, 2010 at 08:50 AM
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He is smart, and has the right to choose any brand which benefiting him the most.

We are NUTS b/c why do we care about it and arguing like a mad cow here...

Both systems are great any way....



Mar 28, 2010 at 09:08 AM
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thedigitalbean wrote:
Nope, that was Art Morris. To be more specific he said that the center AF point only on the 50D did a better job of tracking BIFs than the center AF point of the 1D3. Some have corroborated, some refuted...


well then it was Art Morris and someone else as well

The guy I am thinking of was from Sweden or Norway, I believe.



Mar 28, 2010 at 01:14 PM
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wickerprints wrote:
A little-known fact: back in her heyday, Ms. Spears was quite renowned in academic circles for her eminently accessible treatise on semiconductor physics.



Thanks for pointing that out as I am now most humbled. I shall give deference to her in the future for mastering a subject beyond my meager abilities.



Mar 28, 2010 at 01:46 PM
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Tim Ashton wrote:
denoir wrote:
From my point of view it's too bad as I liked his reviews. And yes this does hurt his credibility as an independent reviewer - both retroactively for the Canon reviews and for future Nikon reviews.

Time to chill
Denoir said it oh so succinctly right there near the start
All we have to do is create a niche for ourselves and do it so well that either Canon or Nikon think we are worth sponsoring.
Tim



You're exactly right Tim. there's nothing wrong with using Nikon equipment today as it's easily as good, if not better in some ways, than what Canon is offering. The problem, as Denoir, you, and others have pointed out is the credibility factor. This guys has none..

Still, when this thread is gone I'll rarely think of him, and completely disregard anything he has to say about anything in the future.

At least Ken Rockwell knows he's a clown, so if this guy will admit he is too and publish a "my opinion can be bought and everything I say is tainted" disclaimer, all would be right with the world again.

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Mar 28, 2010 at 01:55 PM
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skibum5 wrote:
well then it was Art Morris and someone else as well

The guy I am thinking of was from Sweden or Norway, I believe.


Guess your'e talking about Brutus Östling, a recently appointed Canon ambassador
AFAIK this was written before beeing promoted
http://brutusbloggar.blogg.se/2008/august/
Use google to translate:
http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=sv&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fbrutusbloggar.blogg.se%2F2008%2Faugust%2F&sl=sv&tl=en


Cheers
Lasse



Mar 28, 2010 at 01:55 PM
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jamesf99 wrote:
You're exactly right Tim. there's nothing wrong with using Nikon equipment today as it's easily as good, if not better in some ways, than what Canon is offering. The problem, as Denoir, you, and others have pointed out is the credibility factor. This guys has none..

Still, when this thread is gone I'll rarely think of him, and completely disregard anything he has to say about anything in the future.

At least Ken Rockwell knows he's a clown, so if this guy admit he is too and publish a "my opinion can be bought and everything I say is tainted" disclaimer,
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And you think when he was a "Canon Ambassador", he had credibility?



Mar 28, 2010 at 02:24 PM
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Yeah, that point does make me wonder. If we call him biased then he was no less biased in the past so why did anything change?

I've got to the point where I accept that there is no such thing whatsoever as objectivity and as such I read comments and reviews with that in mind. I do trust the opinion of pros using this gear but accept that it is opinion not some sort of pure truth.



Mar 28, 2010 at 02:34 PM
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reviews from a sponsored user should be taken with a grain of salt I'll admit, but "proof is in the pudding" as they say (Can't tell my parents were British now can you )

If Ole (or anyone) post great pics, the camera has something to do with it - albeit Petkal can take a great picture with a rusty can, match and carbon paper from what I've seen

I have a lot of practicing to do.



Mar 28, 2010 at 03:26 PM
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chez wrote:
And you think when he was a "Canon Ambassador", he had credibility?



None what so ever... That's my point. If he can dump Canon because he was only given 3 days with the 1D4 (perhaps he just expected a free one and resented his having to return it) and Nikon being the whores they are lately (in a good way ) he completely switched his cheaply-bought allegiance.

Never heard of him before this tempest in a teapot, never want to again.

Still, a camera is only a tool, just like a hammer. I rarely get attached to bodies and can dump them at will, so if he chooses to use a hammer called the D3s because he was given one for free, that's fine by me. Just don't claim that it's the best thing since sliced bread and the Canon offering is inferior (except for ISO) because you got it for free. We all prostitute ourselves at times, but we don't all advertise it on the web....



Mar 28, 2010 at 03:45 PM
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What on Earth is the matter with you lot? A photographer switches brand of camera, and most of you lot dump on him, with verbal abuse, put downs, and insults to his integrity. Cripes! It is only camera gear. Many photographers, some quite famous, have switched from Nikon to Canon. Examples include Art Wolfe (Canon offered to replace without charge his stolen Nikon gear), Frans Lanting (thought Nikon was not up to scratch) and Joe Macdonald (thought Nikon was not up to scratch). So he thinks Nikon better suits his needs. Big deal. Others think Canon better suits their needs. Equally big deal. By the way, do you know that the Pope is Catholic, and Santa Claus does not exist? Sorry to break it to you without warning.

rd4tile wrote:
Canon needs to retaliate fast and sign Ken Rockwell


Do you think they could hurry up? I can't bear the idea that Canon users might be missing the opportunity to benefit from his apercus, and gems of wisdom.



Mar 28, 2010 at 05:05 PM
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LeifG wrote:
What on Earth is the matter with you lot? A photographer switches brand of camera, and most of you lot dump on him, with verbal abuse, put downs, and insults to his integrity. Cripes! It is only camera gear. Many photographers, some quite famous, have switched from Nikon to Canon. Examples include Art Wolfe (Canon offered to replace without charge his stolen Nikon gear), Frans Lanting (thought Nikon was not up to scratch) and Joe Macdonald (thought Nikon was not up to scratch). So he thinks Nikon better suits his needs. Big deal. Others think Canon better suits their needs.
...Show more

You're very late to the party, but did you actually read what the guy wrote? Perhaps he's updated his excuse, I really don't care.

Anyway, this thread is the forum equivalent of wasting time, or much ado about nothing, but it identifies the individual as a suspect source of ANY information.

I'm done. I've spent too much time already on such an unimportant issue.



Mar 28, 2010 at 05:11 PM
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jamesf99 wrote:
You're very late to the party, but did you actually read what the guy wrote? Perhaps he's updated his excuse, I really don't care.

Anyway, this thread is the forum equivalent of wasting time, or much ado about nothing, but it identifies the individual as a suspect source of ANY information.

I'm done. I've spent too much time already on such an unimportant issue.


Amazing the venom generated. Yes I read what he wrote. So what. Those are his opinions. Why verbally abuse someone you probably have never met? Then again, internet camera forums seem to be full of abuse and fighting.



Mar 29, 2010 at 07:15 AM
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I don't know this guy and I don't really care anything about this issue specifically. But I do think that the matter of integrity and impartiality is essential when it comes to reporting.

If he switched brands because he really felt Nikon was better, then more power to him. But if he was essentially "bought off", then this calls into question any subsequent comparisons he may make between the Nikon and Canon platforms.

Only he really knows what his motivations were, but this *does* matter.



Mar 29, 2010 at 07:47 AM
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