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p.2 #1Alternative Tilt & Shift Thread
http://i038.radikal.ru/1004/f5/e3fce3256f9c.jpg
I was trying to get both the couple and the roof in focus but there was not enough tilt available.


I looks to me that you tilted too much for the desired effect. Am I wrong?
Apr 10, 2010 at 07:55 AM
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p.2 #2Alternative Tilt & Shift Thread
mirkoc wrote:
Earlier quotehttp://i038.radikal.ru/1004/f5/e3fce3256f9c.jpg
I was trying to get both the couple and the roof in focus but there was not enough tilt available.
I looks to me that you tilted too much for the desired effect. Am I wrong?


Too much swing?

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Apr 10, 2010 at 10:48 AM
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p.2 #3Alternative Tilt & Shift Thread
Unless you were trying for a different effect you tilted with the lens in the wrong orientation. You tilted horizontally right? I think you should have treated the couple as the foreground and the roof as the background and just tilted vertically.

You may still have not had enough tilt but the photo wouldn't have looked so odd...(again, unless that's what you wanted )

Mike
Apr 10, 2010 at 12:18 PM
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p.2 #4Alternative Tilt & Shift Thread
Jacob D wrote:
The adapter was $125 new, the lens was $95 used on eBay (I made an offer below their asking price and they accepted it). With shipping costs it adds up to $270


If I only knew that when I purchased my Mirex.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.
Apr 11, 2010 at 02:37 AM
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p.2 #5Alternative Tilt & Shift Thread
Yakim,

Come on now, you can tilt AND shift and have quite an arsenal of lenses to choose from... hardly any reason to be upset
Apr 11, 2010 at 12:32 PM
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p.2 #6Alternative Tilt & Shift Thread
Yeah, but I mostly tilt and that arsenal of lenses is costly.

Happy shooting,
Yakim.
Apr 12, 2010 at 01:13 AM
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p.2 #7Alternative Tilt & Shift Thread
rtallent wrote:
I'm really glad to see this thread! The TS-E 90 is one of my most used lenses for general purpose photography, not just tilt/shift stuff. Whenever I use it I always feels like I'm using an alt lens, due to the manual focus and character of the lens and wish I could post here. Thanks

Here are a few recent ones, all 5DMkII:

http://www.pbase.com/rtallent/image/121729656/original.jpg
(some tilt)



Old Campag stuff makes my heart flutter....
Apr 13, 2010 at 05:20 AM
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p.2 #8Alternative Tilt & Shift Thread
mcbroomf wrote:
Unless you were trying for a different effect you tilted with the lens in the wrong orientation. You tilted horizontally right? I think you should have treated the couple as the foreground and the roof as the background and just tilted vertically.

You may still have not had enough tilt but the photo wouldn't have looked so odd...(again, unless that's what you wanted )

Mike

This adapter allows tilting in any direction, so I did it roughly at 45 degrees.
Apr 13, 2010 at 08:18 AM
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p.2 #9Alternative Tilt & Shift Thread
Guys, I'm a total noob when it comes to TS so bear with me. I saw that Arax and Hartblei both make tilt adapter for native Nikon and Canon mount lenses. Why don't we go that route? I understand that you can only get the tilt effect in this case.
Apr 13, 2010 at 09:07 AM
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p.2 #10Alternative Tilt & Shift Thread
ht1948 wrote:
Guys, I'm a total noob when it comes to TS so bear with me. I saw that Arax and Hartblei both make tilt adapter for native Nikon and Canon mount lenses. Why don't we go that route? I understand that you can only get the tilt effect in this case.



I wonder how those will work due to the smaller image circle of the 35mm lens? Also worth noting is that those adapters all carry the "macro" designation.
Apr 13, 2010 at 10:17 AM
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p.2 #11Alternative Tilt & Shift Thread
aoluain wrote:
5D + Pentax 645 33-55 + Zoerk PSA


Hi Alan, nice photos and website. You have some great images.

How do you like the Pentax 645 33-55? I'm shooting the 35 FA and I've wondered about the zoom.

thanks

Mike
Apr 13, 2010 at 01:31 PM
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p.2 #12Alternative Tilt & Shift Thread
Some beautiful examples. Prashant, I loved them all! Mind sharing some of the locations? Specifically, the first forest with those brilliant greens, and the lake? Mcbroom, I loved the sand ripples with the grass in the mid-ground, and the cemetery was great. Very moody. Liked the first Campy shot too. Making me drool. Somewhere out there is a guy driving a brown truck bringing my new 5D2 closer and closer every day. When it gets here it's going to be married to the 90mm TS-E for at least a couple weeks, especially if I can get some free time on my hands! I need to look into something wider as well.
Apr 13, 2010 at 02:40 PM
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p.2 #13Alternative Tilt & Shift Thread
Oasisbill, then you will want to stay well clear of 60s and 70s sand-casted Ducati/ Guzzi/ Morini engine parts..and a thank you for the photos in this thread to all.

Apr 14, 2010 at 01:07 AM
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Apr 16, 2010 at 06:20 AM
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p.2 #15Alternative Tilt & Shift Thread
I'm still waiting on my lens to show up, but I received my Arax P-6 to EF adapter and the build quality seems very decent. I read about the issues with the stops not being properly aligned as well as the shiny reflective screws on the inner diameter.

Mine doesn't appear to have the issue with the stops. When mounted to my camera it has a stop at 12 o'clock, then 2 or 3 (I don't recall) stops between each 90 degree increment. If the stops are misaligned it is not enough to be able to tell with a basic visual inspection.

The screws on the inside don't have a shiny metallic finish, but not exactly matte black either. A Sharpie should easily fix this.

It arrived relatively quickly. I used the $15 shipping option (there is no indication on the website which option should be used) and this may have had to do with the way it was packaged but I don't know. It was sent in a very thinly padded envelope.. luckily no damage. Can't wait for my lens now! I'll be sure to post some photos once everything is in hand.
Apr 22, 2010 at 03:52 PM
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p.2 #16Alternative Tilt & Shift Thread
rtallent,

Very nice examples showing why the TS-E 90 is my favorite Canon lens... followed by the TS-E 45.

Really love the glow in this one!

http://www.pbase.com/rtallent/image/113343716/original.jpg

Beautifully rendered!:

http://www.pbase.com/rtallent/image/121729656/original.jpg
Apr 23, 2010 at 04:30 PM
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p.2 #17Alternative Tilt & Shift Thread
Thanks, mh2000! Hopefully a few more soon. Just returned from a short trip to a place that has flowers out so when I get a little time I'll process and post.

Bob
Apr 25, 2010 at 05:13 AM
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p.2 #18Alternative Tilt & Shift Thread
I sent the folks at Mirex an email requesting a price quote and ordering info for the Mamiya/EOS T/S adapter, but also considering the Mark II version the Canon 24mm T/S. Other than the ability to use multiple lenses on the Mirex, and the large cost difference between it and the Canon lens, are there any other pros/cons to using something like the Mirex versus the Canon lens?

I was considering buying the Canon lens a few more months down the road, but the Mirex has piqued my curiosity. Pretty much the only reason that I'm considering the Canon now is I fear that our "leaders" will soon slap us with a Euro-style VAT which will most definitely place this lens on the "forget" list.
Apr 25, 2010 at 08:56 AM
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p.2 #19Alternative Tilt & Shift Thread
One thing to ponder, considering this forum is such a fan of the Zeiss look, is that you can use the Mirex for Hasselblad Zeiss lenses. Zeiss and Canon have a different look, and that is worth consideration. The Hasselblad apparently has a bigger image circle than the Mamiya, and that is another factor to consider for tilt and shift, although there are some very strong proponents of Mamiya on the forum as well. The only thing about Hasselblad is that the widest lens available is the 40mm I believe, but that happens to be a very good lens and a good focal length for panoramic stitches in my view. 40mm is a lot different that 17 or even 24, though.
Apr 25, 2010 at 09:25 AM
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p.2 #20Alternative Tilt & Shift Thread
Mike Ganz wrote:
I sent the folks at Mirex an email requesting a price quote and ordering info for the Mamiya/EOS T/S adapter, but also considering the Mark II version the Canon 24mm T/S. Other than the ability to use multiple lenses on the Mirex, and the large cost difference between it and the Canon lens, are there any other pros/cons to using something like the Mirex versus the Canon lens?

I was considering buying the Canon lens a few more months down the road, but the Mirex has piqued my curiosity. Pretty much the only reason that I'm considering the Canon now
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What is the widest MF lens you can find? 35mm? 30mm? I haven't looked that hard but if you need a 24mm TS and you can afford the Canon it seems like an easy choice to me. The optics of the Canon should outshine most, if not all of the competition from a technical standpoint, but as said above if there is a certain look you're after...
Apr 25, 2010 at 08:56 PM
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