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Ataboy
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p.1 #1 · Tamron 500 SP mirror lens


Tamron 500 SP mirror lens is not very sharp, has funky doughnut bokeh and requires ISO 800 even on a sunny day to shoot hand-held, but I am having a blast with it anyway:

http://i015.radikal.ru/1003/75/2642c7efa337.jpg
http://s46.radikal.ru/i114/1003/bf/0cf950011d60.jpg
http://i050.radikal.ru/1003/11/396d15e96230.jpg



Mar 18, 2010 at 04:33 PM
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p.1 #2 · Tamron 500 SP mirror lens


I'm impressed though. How do you manage to focus action scenes like the fighters so accurately? Amazing shots.

Best regards,
si



Mar 18, 2010 at 04:38 PM
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p.1 #3 · Tamron 500 SP mirror lens


The sharpness is certainly acceptable, nice shots.

Dave



Mar 18, 2010 at 04:43 PM
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p.1 #4 · Tamron 500 SP mirror lens


staticInc wrote:
I'm impressed though. How do you manage to focus action scenes like the fighters so accurately? Amazing shots.

Best regards,
si


It is very forgiving. Even if you miss focus a bit, images still look OK. Its only aperture is f/8 so the viewfinder is pretty dark, but still usable during the daytime.

davenfl wrote:
The sharpness is certainly acceptable, nice shots.

Dave

At 100% magnification it becomes apparent that per-pixel sharpness is not there. Downsized and sharpened - no problem.



Mar 18, 2010 at 04:50 PM
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p.1 #5 · Tamron 500 SP mirror lens


I hate donut holes in most cases but sometimes it can be avoided or put to good use.. Third is nice but the other two it's really distracting for me.


Mar 18, 2010 at 05:13 PM
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p.1 #6 · Tamron 500 SP mirror lens


systemlayers wrote:
I hate donut holes in most cases but sometimes it can be avoided or put to good use.. Third is nice but the other two it's really distracting for me.


For me the donut bokeh is fitting right into those scenes. With the first sample it is not as overtly visible as in the second. It gives an ancient look, especially to the fence or whatever it is in the background, which looks more like a chain this way.
And in the second picture the donut rings seem to resemble the lion's iris. Very interesting after all, and IMHO quite fitting.



Mar 18, 2010 at 06:20 PM
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p.1 #7 · Tamron 500 SP mirror lens


Doughnut or not but if you find me a better 500mm lens that weighs a pound, fits in a small bag and does not cost a fortune I'll switch right away!


Mar 18, 2010 at 10:50 PM
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p.1 #8 · Tamron 500 SP mirror lens


I have the Tamron 350 f5.6 and Nikkor 500mm C mirror both are nice I like shooting them when I have water in the background for me the donut bokeh works well there.


Mar 19, 2010 at 01:38 AM
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p.1 #9 · Tamron 500 SP mirror lens


Great shots ! Love the donuts behind the lion !

By the way, is it the first (55B) or second (55BB) version of the lens ?

The Adaptall2 ring for my copy should be here on Monday, now I just need to find a lion



Mar 20, 2010 at 01:10 PM
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p.1 #10 · Tamron 500 SP mirror lens


re Tamron SP 350 f5.6:

What would you guess is the value for this lens? How much would you pay if you'd found one in excellent condition?
A local store is having one but requests about $600 for it (in a somewhat used condition) and something is telling me that this is completely overpriced...



Mar 21, 2010 at 08:04 AM
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p.1 #11 · Tamron 500 SP mirror lens


Don't know about the SP 350.
I paid 150 euros for the SP 500 without the adapter but including the original 5 rear filters, all in good condition.



Mar 21, 2010 at 04:32 PM
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p.1 #12 · Tamron 500 SP mirror lens


Nice images! I like them all - doughnut bokeh and everything.

Any chance of seeing some 100% crops of these? Say, the lion's fur, the hot nail, or whatever part of the swordsmen you feel is in sharpest focus?

Thanks!



BTW, there's a pretty good write-up on this lens here: http://www.bobatkins.com/photography/tutorials/mirror.html that head-to-heads it with the Canon 500/4.5L



Mar 21, 2010 at 06:06 PM
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p.1 #13 · Tamron 500 SP mirror lens


CheshireCat wrote:
Great shots ! Love the donuts behind the lion !

By the way, is it the first (55B) or second (55BB) version of the lens ?

The Adaptall2 ring for my copy should be here on Monday, now I just need to find a lion

This is a 55B version of the lens.
Here is a 100% crop showing that this lens is no match to 5D Mark II sensor:
http://s57.radikal.ru/i156/1003/b8/3f0ba6a88eb1.jpg



Mar 21, 2010 at 06:50 PM
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p.1 #14 · Tamron 500 SP mirror lens


Well, comparing ANY 500mm lens from the film days that is still very very good. And really fairly excellent all things considered anyway - considering that's unsharpened. I think the only downside for me would be the fixed aperture. The doughnut bokeh is kind of interesting to me. And even the fixed aperture doesn't seem so bad when you consider that it costs less than $5,000 and weighs about 1/20th of the refractors of the same focal length.

Cool lens man!




Mar 21, 2010 at 07:12 PM
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p.1 #15 · Tamron 500 SP mirror lens


I find mine extremely sharp:

This is a large crop of the original image:


I use it for things I cannot get close to:
Prostitutes:


Bees:


Sexy Girls on the Beach:


North Korea:


and finally Turtles in the middle of a lake:



I want the 350mm f/5.6, but I've not been keeping an eye on eBay. In the last two weeks they've sold from $206-$650. Also the 500 is WAY sharper up close than far away.



Mar 21, 2010 at 10:54 PM
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p.1 #16 · Tamron 500 SP mirror lens


Great pics! Yes, that bird seems to be very sharp. I use my Tamron for the same reasons, but interestingly, people notice anyway
I used to have Russian Rubinar 500/5.6 mirror lens and it was sharper than Tamron at infinity and faster (f/5.6) too, but it was also much bulkier and heavier, so I've sold it.
Does anyone have experience with Vivitar Series 1 mirror lenses that are abundant on eBay nowadays? Are they any good?



Mar 22, 2010 at 09:10 AM
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p.1 #17 · Tamron 500 SP mirror lens


Ataboy wrote:
Does anyone have experience with Vivitar Series 1 mirror lenses that are abundant on eBay nowadays? Are they any good?

AFAIK those Viv S1 mirror lenses are rebranded Samyang lenses. They are not spectacular though. There are a couple of reviews on the net and what I've seen confirms most of the reviews, namely "limited" IQ...



Mar 22, 2010 at 10:02 AM
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p.1 #18 · Tamron 500 SP mirror lens


Unlike the Tamron, which has glass mirrors the Vivitar has plastic mirrors which means it will be awful.


Mar 22, 2010 at 04:56 PM
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p.1 #19 · Tamron 500 SP mirror lens


I've got a newer Vivitar 500 f/6.3. Despite it being a cheap lens with mediocre picture quality, at best, it serves it's purpose when called upon. Usable images can be had from it under the right conditions, it's not heavy, and it can be focused while hand held...despite having a paper thin DOF and no IS. Best of all, if anything happens to it I'm only out $180 and not thousands.
Some of us like donuts.



Mar 23, 2010 at 11:51 PM
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p.1 #20 · Tamron 500 SP mirror lens


Preliminary tests with my 55B copy on a 5D2 confirm the lens is sharper up close than at infinite.

Using tripod and remote, I could get similar results as Ataboy got in the lion shot... but as soon as I used Live View (equivalent to MLU on the 5D2) the IQ increased dramatically in close focus shots (i.e. 100% crops with a little PP are very similar to the bird shot taken by TWoK).

Tripod, remote, and MLU



Mar 27, 2010 at 09:27 PM
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