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Archive 2010 · 35mm zeiss 1,4 >< rokkor 1,8

  
 
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p.1 #1 · 35mm zeiss 1,4 >< rokkor 1,8


just another world,
sharpness is almost the same,
but the rest, even corners with the zeiss @1,4 are better than
the rokkor at 1,8.

http://zneyder.de/fred/rokkor35.jpg
rokkor at 1,8
with canon 5D

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http://zneyder.de/fred/zeiss35.jpg
zeiss at 1,4
with canon 5D


Edited on Jan 13, 2011 at 12:43 PM · View previous versions



Feb 28, 2010 at 07:23 AM
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p.1 #2 · 35mm zeiss 1,4 >< rokkor 1,8


I don't like the yellow/red tint in the Rokkor ( I also saw this in the 58/1.2). The Zeiss also has more "pop". Not a big surprise


Feb 28, 2010 at 09:12 AM
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p.1 #3 · 35mm zeiss 1,4 >< rokkor 1,8


This is really surprising to me. Can you post a 100% crop? My copy of the distagon is significantly sharper at f1.8 than all 3 copies of my rokkor 35/1.8.


Feb 28, 2010 at 09:26 AM
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p.1 #4 · 35mm zeiss 1,4 >< rokkor 1,8


His labels are below the images.


Feb 28, 2010 at 09:31 AM
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p.1 #5 · 35mm zeiss 1,4 >< rokkor 1,8


This example makes me want Rokkor. Zeiss is great and I use it all the time, but at least in these two shots the Rokkor delivers more punch, makes bolder statement about the subject


Feb 28, 2010 at 08:06 PM
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p.1 #6 · 35mm zeiss 1,4 >< rokkor 1,8


very different. Must say I prefer the Zeiss.


Feb 28, 2010 at 08:41 PM
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p.1 #7 · 35mm zeiss 1,4 >< rokkor 1,8


Thanks for the comparison. I think it is pretty interesting. I think what you see here mostly is f/1.4 has a lot more blur than f/1.8. The Zeiss is a nicer lens, but it also costs three or four times as much. I am quite happy with my 35 f/1.8 Rokkor, but although mine is good wide open by f/2.8 it is even better. There is a bit of spherical aberrations and veiling flare wide open.


Feb 28, 2010 at 10:20 PM
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p.1 #8 · 35mm zeiss 1,4 >< rokkor 1,8


I like the Rokkor shot a lot more. Buttery bokeh with the Rokkor at 1.8. Choppy bokeh at 1.4 with the Zeiss.

Oops, never mind. Read it wrong. Zeiss looks much better.

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Jan 11, 2011 at 09:06 PM
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p.1 #9 · 35mm zeiss 1,4 >< rokkor 1,8


from what I see its the other way around... second pic has the more blur that is also smoother and that's the zeiss pic (unless I'm missing something?).

tell wrote:
I like the Rokkor shot a lot more. Buttery bokeh with the Rokkor at 1.8. Choppy bokeh at 1.4 with the Zeiss.




Jan 11, 2011 at 09:11 PM
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p.1 #10 · 35mm zeiss 1,4 >< rokkor 1,8


edit: I misread the labels. Zeiss is way smoother. My bad.

The Rokkor is so much smoother it's on a different planet. I'd imagine that in shots consisting of more than defocussed highlights and a metal pole I'd prefer the Zeiss, but here it's pretty ugly.



Jan 11, 2011 at 09:13 PM
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p.1 #11 · 35mm zeiss 1,4 >< rokkor 1,8


Shots of both at the same aperture please.


Jan 12, 2011 at 03:09 PM
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p.1 #12 · 35mm zeiss 1,4 >< rokkor 1,8


I was really shocked until I realized that I, like everyone else was misleading the labels. The world is right again


Jan 12, 2011 at 03:16 PM
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p.1 #13 · 35mm zeiss 1,4 >< rokkor 1,8


They seem pretty close from this one shot, at least close enough that I'd not spend 10x as much for the Zeiss.


Jan 12, 2011 at 03:28 PM
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p.1 #14 · 35mm zeiss 1,4 >< rokkor 1,8


Ed Sawyer wrote:
They seem pretty close from this one shot, at least close enough that I'd not spend 10x as much for the Zeiss.


the bokeh difference is pretty staggering - if they were shot at the same aperture. since they're not this just tells me that the rokkor isn't a good f/1.4 replacement.



Jan 12, 2011 at 03:56 PM
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p.1 #15 · 35mm zeiss 1,4 >< rokkor 1,8


It seem like they are both taken at fullopen iris.
Rokkor 1.8
Zeiss 1.4
I suppose that from the diameter of the unscharp light points.



Jan 13, 2011 at 11:24 AM
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p.1 #16 · 35mm zeiss 1,4 >< rokkor 1,8


ZoneV wrote:
It seem like they are both taken at fullopen iris.
Rokkor 1.8
Zeiss 1.4
I suppose that from the diameter of the unscharp light points.


that was my assumption as well.



Jan 13, 2011 at 11:28 AM
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p.1 #17 · 35mm zeiss 1,4 >< rokkor 1,8


i hope now its more clear.
and the world of everyone is fine again

cheerz
reinhard



Jan 13, 2011 at 12:45 PM
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p.1 #18 · 35mm zeiss 1,4 >< rokkor 1,8


sebboh wrote:
this just tells me that the rokkor isn't a good f/1.4 replacement.


Agreed.



Jan 13, 2011 at 12:48 PM
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p.1 #19 · 35mm zeiss 1,4 >< rokkor 1,8


believe me,
the zeiss was the lens which was most sadly and hard to sell.
but i use the ultron 40/2 much more, simply because
of its low weight.
and if i need great bokeh i use the samyang 85mm
but that a different story ...

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Jan 13, 2011 at 12:58 PM
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p.1 #20 · 35mm zeiss 1,4 >< rokkor 1,8


rsrsrs wrote:
believe me,
it was the lens which was most sadly and hard to sell.
but i use the ultron 40/2 much more, simply because
of its low weight.
and if i need great bokeh i use the samyang 85mm
but that a different story ...


which zeiss or rokkor?



Jan 13, 2011 at 01:00 PM
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