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p.11 #1 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems


It's not OUR fault that MA is needed these days when it was not needed earlier. We only use it to improve AF from not so great to what it should be. I'm pretty sure that it is needed as a cover for inadequate tolerances in the modern AF system.

Our perception of poor AF is also somewhat heightened with modern high-pixel-density cameras. It doesn't take much focus error to look poor when the pixels are so small and also packed so close together.

- Alan



Feb 04, 2010 at 01:43 AM
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p.11 #2 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems


mdbassman wrote:
Yours is dead on!!! Here is my p.o.s!


I can't see anything in sharp in your photo, which makes me wonder if it is not a diffraction problem at f/16, rather than a front or back focus problem. Have you tried at larger apertures and got better results ?

- Alan



Feb 04, 2010 at 01:53 AM
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p.11 #3 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems


digitalbug30d wrote:
WELL I have a stupid question...why is Micro Adjustment needed so much on Pro bodies when the 8 different lenses Ive used on my 30D that doesnt have MA
seem to work fine,AI servo works as well as it should with this particular body with the a 100-400 Ive used at an Airshow...


i've need to use MFA with practically every lens and body

it can really, really help

oddly, with every body i've owned/tested/hand my hands on (50D, 3 7D's and a 5D2) that had MFA and all but two lenses, it has always been "+" settings required and never "-" and when "-" was needed it was just a tad and never a huge amount. I forget, but I'm not sure if 0 was ever the best for me (sometimes it was a small +1 or +2 though).





Feb 04, 2010 at 01:56 AM
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p.11 #4 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems


rbaker wrote:
So, is it safe to say I should hold of on the firmware update for now?


I'm sticking with 1.0.4

AF is excellent with all my long lenses and I see no reason to 'upgrade' the firmware.



Feb 04, 2010 at 04:18 AM
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p.11 #5 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems


I think mine appears to be Ok now, providing I stear well clear of the ROF setting.

Pierre, did you see the story on Channel Online about the Guernsey birder coming as a runner up in that bird guide competition? Checked out his site and he's got some seriously nice bird shots!



Feb 04, 2010 at 06:05 AM
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p.11 #6 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems


ragebot wrote:
Well I went out to St. Marks National Wildlife Refuge today after some test shooting at local parks. Some of the sea gulls I shot at the parks were OOF, but most were dead on.

Got lots of keepers at St. Marks, including a couple of additions to my life time list. Used my 500/f4 and my Sigmonster. As it got later in the day and the setting sun and clouds forced me to go to 6400 I was very pleased with the results. My 1d4 came with 1.06 and I have no complaints. Got a pix of a Yellowbelly Sapsucker
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Are you presenting this gull image as an "oof" shot or a "keeper"? If the latter, then you have some serious problems with your 1D4 and/or lenses and with your post-processing.

Colin



Feb 04, 2010 at 07:16 AM
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p.11 #7 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems


Count me as a very happy camper. My m4 was delivered with 1.0.6 and I've shot over 2000 images with it, all at Daytona (24 Hours race) in varying conditions from pre-dawn to mid-day to dark, with oncoming cars, panning cars, etc. Initial focus ack and AI servo were both great. Best camera I've ever used.

http://danspot.zenfolio.com/img/v6/p67357741-4.jpg
http://danspot.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p323579365-4.jpg

More here: http://danspot.zenfolio.com/p393964561
That entire gallery is 1dm4.

[edit - changed gallery link to first page]

Edited on Feb 04, 2010 at 07:43 AM · View previous versions



Feb 04, 2010 at 07:27 AM
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p.11 #8 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems


Dan I couldn't help but notice on all of your photos the cars are heading up hill, is this intentional?

Chad



Feb 04, 2010 at 07:34 AM
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p.11 #9 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems


No, I think it's a firmware problem.


Feb 04, 2010 at 07:42 AM
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p.11 #10 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems


olearydj wrote:
No, I think it's a firmware problem.





Feb 04, 2010 at 07:42 AM
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p.11 #11 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems


Better?
http://danspot.zenfolio.com/img/v1/p466882826-4.jpg



Feb 04, 2010 at 07:44 AM
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p.11 #12 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems


That last shot was 1/30th at f/11 with a splash of flash. I wouldn't use it as a critical sharpness test, but it's ok even then...


Feb 04, 2010 at 07:46 AM
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p.11 #13 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems


DonM2 wrote:
One would think, with all this history of the infamous A/F in the 1D3, that Canon would finally see the merit of having a competent shooter grab a Mk4 as it was being packed to ship and come back with a report after a day and night's shooting everything in sight. The latter to be done once or twice a week at least for the first several months of production and at least randomly thereafter.

They don't need Rob Galbraith for this and he wouldn't do this again anyway for the way Canon essentially 'dissed' him for all his effort with
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The problem with this approach is that works only if a large number of cameras are defective (e.g. 1D3). If it's only a few isolated cases then you need a large number of testers to identify and diagnose the problem. But it's exactly what Canon is doing with the early adopters



Feb 04, 2010 at 07:46 AM
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p.11 #14 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems


olearydj wrote:
No, I think it's a firmware problem.


Ha ha



Feb 04, 2010 at 07:49 AM
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p.11 #15 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems


It's Seagull from Heaven

Colin Key wrote:
Are you presenting this gull image as an "oof" shot or a "keeper"? If the latter, then you have some serious problems with your 1D4 and/or lenses and with your post-processing.

Colin




Feb 04, 2010 at 07:50 AM
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p.11 #16 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems


olearydj wrote:
No, I think it's a firmware problem.

hilarious in a dry way



Feb 04, 2010 at 08:05 AM
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p.11 #17 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems


Guys, just as an update I have my mk4 working super with 1.06 now. I chatted the issue through with CPS who advised the resetting of the camera and clearing of all CFn's.

Once I had done this and then reapplied them the camera seems to be fine from the limited tests I've been able to do. There is certainly no hunting of the AF as I experienced previously.

Apparently the CPS chap recommended the re setting on the camera whenever a firmware update is performed.

I'm not sure what went on when I originally updated to 1.06, but it has now cleared.

Cheers
Garry



Feb 04, 2010 at 08:51 AM
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p.11 #18 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems


ppopsy wrote:
Guys, just as an update I have my mk4 working super with 1.06 now. I chatted the issue through with CPS who advised the resetting of the camera and clearing of all CFn's.

Once I had done this and then reapplied them the camera seems to be fine from the limited tests I've been able to do. There is certainly no hunting of the AF as I experienced previously.

Apparently the CPS chap recommended the re setting on the camera whenever a firmware update is performed.

I'm not sure what went on when I originally updated to 1.06, but it has now cleared.

Cheers
Garry


Garry, how did you reset the cam?
or only clean the CFn's?
thnx



Feb 04, 2010 at 09:09 AM
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p.11 #19 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems


Gary,
what exactly did he tell you to do, to reset it?

Chris



Feb 04, 2010 at 09:10 AM
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p.11 #20 · Mark IV Firmware 1.0.6 problems


I reset both the CF and the camera settings..


Feb 04, 2010 at 09:12 AM
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