Rodluvan - your 1.4/35 Easter shot (?) is brilliant. Very interesting perspective
Edward - I enjoy the 85/4 GXR shot. Green leaves are my fav.
Samuli - Thanks for the explanation on Live View qustion. Now , that makes sense. I misunderstood what you meant. I am enjoying your 25 shots. Wheel shot was pretty strong. I also like the tree shot with 85.
Lieutenant - Wow. Absolutely stunning shot. One of my most favorite of your shots.
Weasel_Loader, Helena - Thank you for your comments.
Just like to file a disclaimer; I'm very sorry I don't take the time to comment on as many photos as I'd like, but the fm forum interface makes me nervous and I'm lazy.
Some pretty great stuff all around though, and a special mentioning of Akul's stuff that I really like.
Samuli Vahonen wrote:
As overall the rendering is great, my comment was concerning those bits of sky, which was shown for example at coordinates X=265, Y=195 (origo on top left corner) and many other places in the image. They are typical to 2/35 (and 2/28), and I'm really hoping 2/25 doesn't have them, but haven't yet shoot enough with it to report my findings. I really liked the photo, but since knowing the lens and knowing how ugly they look on A3 print, I would have edited them (at least for print).
No need to "defend" your lens, all lenses are compromises. I have not yet seen lens, which could not be tricked to show ugly bokeh. Typically this only happens when lens (EDIT: for clarification added that text from here is about 2/35) is focused to ~1.5m/5 feet @ f/2 (the highlights in infinity), not if focus plane is closer or further away. There are some ways to smoothen in post processing, but they do require drawing of rather accurate layer masks (when you have drawns masks, apply gaussian blur and drop contrast) - not my favourite task to perform, nice to learn and do it once, maybe twice but at 3rd time I would prefer automation or that somebody else would do it for me, the base reason why I hate post processing...
Thanks Samuli for elaborating and illustrating your point! I now know what you mean and will look for this bokeh behavior in the future (and in pictures already taken), although I'm undecided yet how severe I will consider this "fault" in a bokeh rendering. Its something I see much more often and pronounced in Olympus lenses where I don't like it, but less so in Zeiss lenses yet (the C/Y 28 2.8 has it, although). At least its less annoying for me than exaggerated highlight points in the bokeh what I see sometimes in the Canon 50L (it has a hit or miss bokeh for me).
Rodluvan wrote:
Nice place Weasel_Loader, but the last 4 look out of focus point of focus slightly behind subject).
When you called him 'Weasel_Loader' I thought, jeepers Daniel thats a bit rough then looked up and saw it was his name ....
What the heck are you doing hanging about here, didn't you see there is a thread on 3D. Its just like talking about cream and the nikkor 85D, oh wait, thats a dog now right?
My favourite shots since my last comments are:
bilalrafi flower shot, nice bokeh.
Gunzorro 1st shot, nice colors.
Samuli 1st shot (flower), it has incredible pop.
Lieutenant Z mysterious legs
Akul city shot.
Samuli, you said: "Edward, I'm surpriced (based on my assumptions - thou I have very little information about 4/85, to be honest I haven't even checked MTF...) that 4/85 has so bad bokeh in some pictures. I would have assumed lens so slow, would be made top quality wide open, however wide open the bokeh highlight seem to have very bright edges (like ZE/ZF 2/35 when it's bad). Liked 2nd and 3rd, thou slightly overexposed for my taste. GXR looks good camera, don't see anything obviously wrong, and if wides work without color issues it's quite good for ZM-lenses. Is it how difficult to focus to ZM-lenses with GXR?"
In fact, the 85/4 is very sharp and imo designed for size and weight rather than bokeh. It is very tiny and light and has only 5 elements. It can produce some bad bokeh at middle distances but up close it isn't too bad. I am sure my 85/2 (coming in December) will be much better in the bokeh department. As for the GXR, no color issues nor corner softness with any of my current lenses. It has no AA and the microlenses are offset just like the M9. Focusing is very easy, I just leave it on focus peaking, and for stationary subjects I just click on one button and I get 8X magnification. I rarely miss the focus.
OneAnt wrote:
When you called him 'Weasel_Loader' I thought, jeepers Daniel thats a bit rough then looked up and saw it was his name ....
What the heck are you doing hanging about here, didn't you see there is a thread on 3D. Its just like talking about cream and the nikkor 85D, oh wait, thats a dog now right?
Hi Ton!
Hope you're fine. I just ordered a B+W pol filter to the 2.8/21. We'll see how that pans out. Where's this thread you're talking about?
Rodluvan wrote:
Nice place Weasel_Loader, but the last 4 look out of focus. Point of focus slightly behind subject).
Your right about the focus being off. Really tough to get that focus just right in bright light. I think its a fun challenge to have. Just means I need to get out there a shoot more photos.
Lt Z -- I have to add to the praise for you "Legs" shot. I keep mulling it over, as it is so graphic and has such an open-ended story.
akul -- Sorry I haven't said anything yet. You have certainly been busy! The last broken tree stands out in my mind. But lots of interesting photo-essays, and I appreciate those.
Samuli -- I like your first spring flower, and please don't hate me -- your green jugs. Really. The color scheme is great, and the subject is a bit bizarre -- right up my alley.
