ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)
p.595 #1ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)
Samuli -- Thanks for your remarks on the flowers photo. The OOF dappled lighting is on a low roof (grey) with deep green trim.
Apr 16, 2012 at 05:15 PM
p.595 #2ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)
Rodluvan - your 1.4/35 Easter shot (?) is brilliant. Very interesting perspective
Edward - I enjoy the 85/4 GXR shot. Green leaves are my fav.
Samuli - Thanks for the explanation on Live View qustion. Now , that makes sense. I misunderstood what you meant. I am enjoying your 25 shots. Wheel shot was pretty strong. I also like the tree shot with 85.
Lieutenant - Wow. Absolutely stunning shot. One of my most favorite of your shots.
Weasel_Loader, Helena - Thank you for your comments.
With ZF21
Edward - I enjoy the 85/4 GXR shot. Green leaves are my fav.
Samuli - Thanks for the explanation on Live View qustion. Now , that makes sense. I misunderstood what you meant. I am enjoying your 25 shots. Wheel shot was pretty strong. I also like the tree shot with 85.
Lieutenant - Wow. Absolutely stunning shot. One of my most favorite of your shots.
Weasel_Loader, Helena - Thank you for your comments.
With ZF21
Apr 16, 2012 at 08:48 PM
p.595 #3ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)
Just like to file a disclaimer; I'm very sorry I don't take the time to comment on as many photos as I'd like, but the fm forum interface makes me nervous and I'm lazy.
Some pretty great stuff all around though, and a special mentioning of Akul's stuff that I really like.
Some pretty great stuff all around though, and a special mentioning of Akul's stuff that I really like.
Apr 17, 2012 at 12:49 AM
p.595 #4ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)
Lieutenant, very nice. Interesting composition.
Apr 17, 2012 at 01:04 AM
p.595 #5ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)
Finally got a chance to play with the D4 and 100 mp.
Chasing the Sun by tsy87, on Flickr
Chasing the Sun by tsy87, on Flickr
Apr 17, 2012 at 01:10 AM
p.595 #6ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)
Samuli Vahonen wrote:
As overall the rendering is great, my comment was concerning those bits of sky, which was shown for example at coordinates X=265, Y=195 (origo on top left corner) and many other places in the image. They are typical to 2/35 (and 2/28), and I'm really hoping 2/25 doesn't have them, but haven't yet shoot enough with it to report my findings. I really liked the photo, but since knowing the lens and knowing how ugly they look on A3 print, I would have edited them (at least for print).
No need to "defend" your lens, all lenses are compromises. I...Show more →
Thanks Samuli for elaborating and illustrating your point! I now know what you mean and will look for this bokeh behavior in the future (and in pictures already taken), although I'm undecided yet how severe I will consider this "fault" in a bokeh rendering. Its something I see much more often and pronounced in Olympus lenses where I don't like it, but less so in Zeiss lenses yet (the C/Y 28 2.8 has it, although). At least its less annoying for me than exaggerated highlight points in the bokeh what I see sometimes in the Canon 50L (it has a hit or miss bokeh for me).
As overall the rendering is great, my comment was concerning those bits of sky, which was shown for example at coordinates X=265, Y=195 (origo on top left corner) and many other places in the image. They are typical to 2/35 (and 2/28), and I'm really hoping 2/25 doesn't have them, but haven't yet shoot enough with it to report my findings. I really liked the photo, but since knowing the lens and knowing how ugly they look on A3 print, I would have edited them (at least for print).
No need to "defend" your lens, all lenses are compromises. I...Show more →
Thanks Samuli for elaborating and illustrating your point! I now know what you mean and will look for this bokeh behavior in the future (and in pictures already taken), although I'm undecided yet how severe I will consider this "fault" in a bokeh rendering. Its something I see much more often and pronounced in Olympus lenses where I don't like it, but less so in Zeiss lenses yet (the C/Y 28 2.8 has it, although). At least its less annoying for me than exaggerated highlight points in the bokeh what I see sometimes in the Canon 50L (it has a hit or miss bokeh for me).
Apr 17, 2012 at 02:20 AM
p.595 #7ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)
Nice place Weasel_Loader, but the last 4 look out of focus. Point of focus slightly behind subject).
Apr 17, 2012 at 02:43 AM
p.595 #8ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)
Rodluvan wrote:
Nice place Weasel_Loader, but the last 4 look out of focus point of focus slightly behind subject).
When you called him 'Weasel_Loader' I thought, jeepers Daniel thats a bit rough then looked up and saw it was his name ....
What the heck are you doing hanging about here, didn't you see there is a thread on 3D. Its just like talking about cream and the nikkor 85D, oh wait, thats a dog now right?
Nice place Weasel_Loader, but the last 4 look out of focus point of focus slightly behind subject).
When you called him 'Weasel_Loader' I thought, jeepers Daniel thats a bit rough then looked up and saw it was his name ....
What the heck are you doing hanging about here, didn't you see there is a thread on 3D. Its just like talking about cream and the nikkor 85D, oh wait, thats a dog now right?
Apr 17, 2012 at 03:55 AM
p.595 #9ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)
Weasel Loader (was just dying to say that) am looking forward to seeing more, hurry up and decide.
Apr 17, 2012 at 04:03 AM
p.595 #10ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)
Thanks Akul, Gunzorro, Samuli, Lieutenant Z.
My favourite shots since my last comments are:
bilalrafi flower shot, nice bokeh.
Gunzorro 1st shot, nice colors.
Samuli 1st shot (flower), it has incredible pop.
Lieutenant Z mysterious legs
Akul city shot.
Samuli, you said: "Edward, I'm surpriced (based on my assumptions - thou I have very little information about 4/85, to be honest I haven't even checked MTF...) that 4/85 has so bad bokeh in some pictures. I would have assumed lens so slow, would be made top quality wide open, however wide open the bokeh highlight seem to have very bright edges (like ZE/ZF 2/35 when it's bad). Liked 2nd and 3rd, thou slightly overexposed for my taste. GXR looks good camera, don't see anything obviously wrong, and if wides work without color issues it's quite good for ZM-lenses. Is it how difficult to focus to ZM-lenses with GXR?"
In fact, the 85/4 is very sharp and imo designed for size and weight rather than bokeh. It is very tiny and light and has only 5 elements. It can produce some bad bokeh at middle distances but up close it isn't too bad. I am sure my 85/2 (coming in December) will be much better in the bokeh department. As for the GXR, no color issues nor corner softness with any of my current lenses. It has no AA and the microlenses are offset just like the M9. Focusing is very easy, I just leave it on focus peaking, and for stationary subjects I just click on one button and I get 8X magnification. I rarely miss the focus.
My favourite shots since my last comments are:
bilalrafi flower shot, nice bokeh.
Gunzorro 1st shot, nice colors.
Samuli 1st shot (flower), it has incredible pop.
Lieutenant Z mysterious legs
Akul city shot.
Samuli, you said: "Edward, I'm surpriced (based on my assumptions - thou I have very little information about 4/85, to be honest I haven't even checked MTF...) that 4/85 has so bad bokeh in some pictures. I would have assumed lens so slow, would be made top quality wide open, however wide open the bokeh highlight seem to have very bright edges (like ZE/ZF 2/35 when it's bad). Liked 2nd and 3rd, thou slightly overexposed for my taste. GXR looks good camera, don't see anything obviously wrong, and if wides work without color issues it's quite good for ZM-lenses. Is it how difficult to focus to ZM-lenses with GXR?"
In fact, the 85/4 is very sharp and imo designed for size and weight rather than bokeh. It is very tiny and light and has only 5 elements. It can produce some bad bokeh at middle distances but up close it isn't too bad. I am sure my 85/2 (coming in December) will be much better in the bokeh department. As for the GXR, no color issues nor corner softness with any of my current lenses. It has no AA and the microlenses are offset just like the M9. Focusing is very easy, I just leave it on focus peaking, and for stationary subjects I just click on one button and I get 8X magnification. I rarely miss the focus.
Apr 17, 2012 at 04:12 AM
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p.595 #11ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)
OneAnt wrote:
When you called him 'Weasel_Loader' I thought, jeepers Daniel thats a bit rough then looked up and saw it was his name ....
What the heck are you doing hanging about here, didn't you see there is a thread on 3D. Its just like talking about cream and the nikkor 85D, oh wait, thats a dog now right?
Hi Ton!
Hope you're fine. I just ordered a B+W pol filter to the 2.8/21. We'll see how that pans out. Where's this thread you're talking about?
EDIT: Never mind, found it.
Rodluvan wrote
Nice place Weasel_Loader, but the last 4 look out of focus point of focus slightly behind subject).What the heck are you doing hanging about here, didn't you see there is a thread on 3D. Its just like talking about cream and the nikkor 85D, oh wait, thats a dog now right?
Hi Ton!
Hope you're fine. I just ordered a B+W pol filter to the 2.8/21. We'll see how that pans out. Where's this thread you're talking about?
EDIT: Never mind, found it.
Apr 17, 2012 at 04:42 AM
p.595 #12ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)
what's this 4/85 I keep hearing about in this thread, is it a ZM/ZE/ZF lens?
Apr 17, 2012 at 05:01 AM
p.595 #13ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)
Rodluvan wrote:
what's this 4/85 I keep hearing about in this thread, is it a ZM/ZE/ZF lens?
It's a ZM
what's this 4/85 I keep hearing about in this thread, is it a ZM/ZE/ZF lens?
It's a ZM
Apr 17, 2012 at 05:09 AM
p.595 #14ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)
Wow, so there's no 1.4/85 to m-mount? Quite a difference in aperture.
Apr 17, 2012 at 05:47 AM
p.595 #15ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)
Rodluvan wrote:
Wow, so there's no 1.4/85 to m-mount? Quite a difference in aperture.
Well, with the Sonnar 85/2 costing 3300$, I would say we're lucky there is no 85/1.4
Wow, so there's no 1.4/85 to m-mount? Quite a difference in aperture.
Well, with the Sonnar 85/2 costing 3300$, I would say we're lucky there is no 85/1.4
Apr 17, 2012 at 06:54 AM
p.595 #16ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)
Rodluvan wrote:
Nice place Weasel_Loader, but the last 4 look out of focus. Point of focus slightly behind subject).
Your right about the focus being off. Really tough to get that focus just right in bright light. I think its a fun challenge to have. Just means I need to get out there a shoot more photos.
Nice place Weasel_Loader, but the last 4 look out of focus. Point of focus slightly behind subject).
Your right about the focus being off. Really tough to get that focus just right in bright light. I think its a fun challenge to have. Just means I need to get out there a shoot more photos.
Apr 17, 2012 at 07:54 AM
p.595 #17ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)
OneAnt wrote:
Weasel Loader (was just dying to say that) am looking forward to seeing more, hurry up and decide.
Name comes from my old job in the Air Force loading weapons on Wild Weasel F-4G and F-16 aircraft. I guess it is a strange name.
Weasel Loader (was just dying to say that) am looking forward to seeing more, hurry up and decide.
Name comes from my old job in the Air Force loading weapons on Wild Weasel F-4G and F-16 aircraft. I guess it is a strange name.
Apr 17, 2012 at 07:56 AM
p.595 #18ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)
Lt Z -- I have to add to the praise for you "Legs" shot. I keep mulling it over, as it is so graphic and has such an open-ended story.
akul -- Sorry I haven't said anything yet. You have certainly been busy! The last broken tree stands out in my mind. But lots of interesting photo-essays, and I appreciate those.
Samuli -- I like your first spring flower, and please don't hate me -- your green jugs. Really. The color scheme is great, and the subject is a bit bizarre -- right up my alley.
Edward -- You nailed that yellow! Spot on.
akul -- Sorry I haven't said anything yet. You have certainly been busy! The last broken tree stands out in my mind. But lots of interesting photo-essays, and I appreciate those.
Samuli -- I like your first spring flower, and please don't hate me -- your green jugs. Really. The color scheme is great, and the subject is a bit bizarre -- right up my alley.
Edward -- You nailed that yellow! Spot on.
Apr 17, 2012 at 08:26 AM
p.595 #19ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)
TSY87 wrote:
Finally got a chance to play with the D4 and 100 mp.
D4! Tell all!
Finally got a chance to play with the D4 and 100 mp.
D4! Tell all!
Apr 17, 2012 at 08:38 AM
p.595 #20ZE/ZF/ZM Images (Official Thread!)
Samuli, interesting and creative composition in #1:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/860134/532#10548891
Like Gunzorro I also like the green jugs photo, even though it was just an example.
Lieutenant Z, very interesting photo of the legs:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/860134/532#10548958
TSY87, I like this a lot, especially how the flowers seem to be lit from within, and the colors:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/860134/532#10550578
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/860134/532#10548891
Like Gunzorro I also like the green jugs photo, even though it was just an example.
Lieutenant Z, very interesting photo of the legs:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/860134/532#10548958
TSY87, I like this a lot, especially how the flowers seem to be lit from within, and the colors:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/860134/532#10550578
Apr 17, 2012 at 09:22 AM