Greetings to all Zeiss users. Thanks for great images being posted here. I have been intrigued by zeiss glass and recently acquired a 2/28 and 1.4/85. I live in NYC and would like to post some city images. I have a question about filter use especially a CP, how often/frequent with zeiss glass?. Does UV filter affect zeiss color rendetion Thanks.
tjny wrote:
Greetings to all Zeiss users. Thanks for great images being posted here. I have been intrigued by zeiss glass and recently acquired a 2/28 and 1.4/85. I live in NYC and would like to post some city images. I have a question about filter use especially a CP, how often/frequent with zeiss glass?. Does UV filter affect zeiss color rendetion Thanks.
tjny
Welcome. I'm fairly new to Zeiss as well. I haven't put any filters on my glass yet so I can't really comment. Looking forward to seeing some images from my home town.
tjny wrote:
Greetings to all Zeiss users. Thanks for great images being posted here. I have been intrigued by zeiss glass and recently acquired a 2/28 and 1.4/85. I live in NYC and would like to post some city images. I have a question about filter use especially a CP, how often/frequent with zeiss glass?. Does UV filter affect zeiss color rendetion Thanks.
tjny
The zeiss glass' delivers really nice colours in themselves, sure their might be some occasions when a CP would be useful but I would recommend to start without it.
tjny wrote:
Greetings to all Zeiss users. Thanks for great images being posted here. I have been intrigued by zeiss glass and recently acquired a 2/28 and 1.4/85. I live in NYC and would like to post some city images. I have a question about filter use especially a CP, how often/frequent with zeiss glass?. Does UV filter affect zeiss color rendetion Thanks.
tjny
Welcome, tj, and congratulations on your new lenses. Now, without presuming, and certainly not in any way other than helpful, you have not exactly chosen the easiest of Zeiss lenses to get acquainted with the brand. Unless you have quite a bit of experience, I suggest you do some reading, either of John Black's pebbleplace, or of Lloyd Chambers' diglloyd, or of this thread, to help you understand what your lenses do best, and not. Else you might not get the enjoyment out of them that they can deliver.
Yes, Joakim, this is Notre-Dame, with the 50mm f:1.4, my love of which is the subject of some controversy...:-)
Now, for those of you who want to have some OT fun, look at the male faces on the last shot. They all look terribly alike, don't you think? The reason is this: the French Revolution wiped out not only the aristocracy, but also the clergy, and in a wave of anti-royalty and anti-church feelings, many works of art depicting them were mutilated or destroyed. Such was the case with Notre-Dame, where all the statues of saints and/or kings were beheaded. It later befell to a fellow called Viollet-le-Duc to restore the cathedral. Not only did he "improve" on the design, by adding, inter alia, the needle-thin spire and the march of copper Saints descending from Heaven, but he needed faces for the to-be-restored heads. Guess which one he used for all of them. Yes, you guessed it: his own! And BTW this is not the only place where he did this. Every monument and building which he restored is now "graced" with at least one statue head, sculpture or bas-relief with his head....
philber wrote:
...It later befell to a fellow called Viollet-le-Duc to restore the cathedral. Not only did he "improve" on the design, by adding, inter alia, the needle-thin spire and the march of copper Saints descending from Heaven, but he needed faces for the to-be-restored heads. Guess which one he used for all of them. Yes, you guessed it: his own! And BTW this is not the only place where he did this. Every monument and building which he restored is now "graced" with at least one statue head, sculpture or bas-relief with his head....
Ha, ha. Either he was lazy or he had a great sense of humor. Thank you for the OT info, I will know meet the next sunset more schooled then the previous one
I like the second shot of Notre Dame, it almost looks like the thin pink clouds emerges from the building. Could it be the ghost of some beheaded saint?
tjny wrote:
Greetings to all Zeiss users. Thanks for great images being posted here. I have been intrigued by zeiss glass and recently acquired a 2/28 and 1.4/85. I live in NYC and would like to post some city images. I have a question about filter use especially a CP, how often/frequent with zeiss glass?. Does UV filter affect zeiss color rendetion Thanks.
UV filters are considered somewhat of a sacrilege in these parts. Consider this: The image quality and rendering characteristics of the lens is achieved by an arrangement of optical elements positioned with sub-millimeter precision. The glass in the elements have have their refractive indices controlled by the substances in the glass which are controlled to the precision of parts per million. Is it really reasonable to think that one can improve the lens characteristics or get them to stay neutral by slapping on a random piece of glass in front of it?
A very high quality UV filter will of course minimize the impact but you will still lose a lot of the characteristic behavior - especially when stopped down and facing bright lights. Even the best multicoated filters can't compare to the T* coating of the Zeiss glass.
Add to that the front element of the lens is far stronger than any filter and that you increase the risk to the lens manifold by putting on a filter. Should you break the filter it is likely to create severe scratches in the front element. Filters break easily - front elements do not. You could hit it with a hammer without breaking it.
There are of course legitimate situations for UV filter use. If you are encountering salt water spray or dust storms then an UV filter can provide certain protection. Since Zeiss glass isn't weather sealed I would however not recommend using it in extreme conditions.
As for using a CPL - few people here do but it's not unheard of. Unlike UV filters there is a point to them and you do get something in return.
Thanks guys for your response regarding filter use, your answers wre closer to my thinking. I am using a Nikon clear filter and occasionally a Hoya pro1 CP.
I was very happy using mostly a nikon 16-85 vr that is one of the top rated zoom by Photozone, but my two zeiss are not only sharper but produce purer color hues and tonality that gives a sense of reality in an image.