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p.1 #1 · p.1 #1 · What's your professional opinion of this lens's quality?


These are raw unprocessed images taken with a camera attachment that I'd like to hear your opinions on.

In 35MM equivalents here are the focal lengths, scaling info, and other details:


30mm, 1/200 f/6.3, ISO 100, No attachment, 35% full width scale, No PP, (No evaluation needed.)




200mm, 1/200 f/6.3, ISO 100, No attachment, 35% full width scale, No PP, (No evaluation needed.)




60mm, 1/200 f/5.6, ISO 100, Attachment used, 35% full width scale, No PP, (Please evaluate.)




200mm, 1/100 f/3.5, ISO 64, Attachment used, 50% partial width (center crop) scale, No PP, (Please evaluate.)




200mm, 1/100 f/3.5, ISO 64, Attachment used, 100% partial width (center crop) scale, No PP, (Please evaluate.)



I suppose it's a bit of a barrier trying to evaluate glass quality when the images were shot with an interlaced RGBG 2/3-inch CCD at 8.3 MPx, so please consider when offering an opinion. Also the Sun was almost set (behind and slightly to the left of the subject) so the lighting is among the worst possible. So, what do you think? That much zoom from a lens attachment resulting in the quality you see here... Awesome, good, terrible?

Thanks!



Jan 09, 2010 at 07:49 PM
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p.1 #2 · p.1 #2 · What's your professional opinion of this lens's quality?


I find them soft with smearing of all fine detail but I have to wonder how much is due to 1/100 sec and the low aperture of 3.5 (I suspect things would get better stopped down more).


Jan 09, 2010 at 09:09 PM
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p.1 #3 · p.1 #3 · What's your professional opinion of this lens's quality?


At the pixel level, fine detail is lost and the color seems to be bleeding slightly.


Jan 09, 2010 at 09:57 PM
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p.1 #4 · p.1 #4 · What's your professional opinion of this lens's quality?


Agreed on all points.

I'm going to take some more shots with this attachment under better lighting conditions and with better settings and post those up.

It'll prolly be about a week or two till I do.

I was impressed by the amount of magnification that this lens-attachment offered. Basically it's the difference between image number two and image number four - which is what, about 15x or 20x?



Jan 10, 2010 at 11:16 AM
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p.1 #5 · p.1 #5 · What's your professional opinion of this lens's quality?


It would be a lot easier if you provided a "reference" - ie the camera/lens combination at 200mm, without attachment, at 100%. Then we could assess the "amount of degradation" - as it is the comparison is quite hard... Seems like a fun experiment though!


Jan 10, 2010 at 03:11 PM
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p.1 #6 · p.1 #6 · What's your professional opinion of this lens's quality?





1/200s f/6.3 ISO100 200mm (No attachment, no PP)


1/100s f/3.5 ISO64 200mm (With attachment, no PP)

and according to a pixel zoom it's at least 12x if not 13x depending on how the blur works






Edited on Jan 10, 2010 at 05:59 PM · View previous versions



Jan 10, 2010 at 05:44 PM
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p.1 #7 · p.1 #7 · What's your professional opinion of this lens's quality?


That's an astounding retention of optical quality for that kind of magnification! You loose quite a lot of fine contrast, but that's to be expected. General sharpness loss is kept at excellent low levels.

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Even if the lens was "perfect" without the extension, I'd say the result is good/acceptable. Considering the quality of the original, I'd say it's excellent.
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Jan 10, 2010 at 05:56 PM
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p.1 #8 · p.1 #8 · What's your professional opinion of this lens's quality?


Yeah "excellent" was the feeling I got while looking through the camera. While the lens is exceptionally good for a bridge camera from it's period in history it's not as good as most slightly hi-grade ($500 ~ $1000) lenses available for 35MM DSLRs and of course the image sensor sucks terribly compared to any DSLR from the past 6 or 7 years. The very best review site I have yet to find says this of the lens:

    The DiMAGE A2 appears to feature the same advanced apochromat 7x zoom GT Lens that was so impressive on previous models in the line. While this lens really stood alone in the earlier marketplace in which the A1 and other predecessors competed, other makers have now caught up with their optical designs, so the A2's lens is now less notable than it once was. (Still very good, it's just that the competition now equals or exceeds it in some respects.) Comprised of 16 glass elements in 13 groups, the GT lens has two anomalous dispersion (AD) and two aspheric glass elements...Show more


All that just to confirm your suspicions that indeed the lens is NOT perfect! Good or maybe even great for a bridge camera but far from perfect.




Jan 10, 2010 at 06:34 PM
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p.1 #9 · p.1 #9 · What's your professional opinion of this lens's quality?


Here's a shot of the "lens attachment" I was using BTW ( Kowa TSN-884 ):

http://tesselator.gpmod.com/Images/_Equipment_n_Tutorials/_MegaZoom/MZ9_Lens_Attachment_PICT6854.jpg

Reviews can be read here:
    http://www.freeportwildbirdsupply.com/pdf/Birding-09-2_Tools.pdf
    http://www.optics4birding.com/kowa-tsn-883-spotting-scope-review.aspx
    http://www.livingbird.org/netcommunity/bbimages/lb/pdf/ScopeChart2008.pdf
    http://www.eagleoptics.com/spotting-scopes/kowa/kowa-tsn-884-straight-88mm-prominar-spotting-scope


The price seems to hover around $2,200 in USD or $1,800 when purchased in Japan.





Jan 10, 2010 at 07:57 PM
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p.1 #10 · p.1 #10 · What's your professional opinion of this lens's quality?


Which IS quite impressive considering you shot straight up, meaning interaction of four pupils... not what's normally considered "optimal"! - but then again, the trace from entry pupil on a compact superzoom will probably fit inside the exit pupil of the scope, rendering the system "normal"... And limited by the camera Fstop, not the scope. I was thinking Takahashi Custom or some of the other exotics.


Jan 10, 2010 at 11:38 PM
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p.1 #11 · p.1 #11 · What's your professional opinion of this lens's quality?


Wow, you got it DAMN close then! This is probably nearly identical to what my camera would achieve peeping through something like a Takahashi FS-60 or FS-78 fluorite refractor. Kewl!




Jan 11, 2010 at 02:23 AM





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