butchM wrote:
Most experienced folks in the photography field recommend buying the best cameras, lenses, flash units that a budget can afford .... they also recommend the best possible methods to present your wares so that sales grow ... they also recommend offering the best possible customer service humanly possible to reach the pinnacle in client satisfaction ....
But when someone buys an Apple computer and indicates they are pleased with their investment .... they are considered a bunch of fanboy cultists that are blinded by unscrupulous marketing only buying Macs to achieve or maintain their "cool" factor ......
Too true! I wonder how many people spending thousands of dollars on boutique lenses would also castigate Mac users for being "fanboy cultists," or victims of Apple marketing.
Having had some experience in the exotic lens marketplace, I believe that many of the people extolling the virtues of certain lens and camera brands are less rational than Apple devotees touting the productivity benefits of the Mac. Forum gear snobs will wax eloquent on barely perceptible differences in Bokeh between arcane multi-thousand dollar lenses, or speak to the nostalgic wonder of using legacy systems to capture their images. But when it comes time to discuss OS features or hardware implementations on cutting edge computing platforms, many of these same people would call you "stupid for paying more for the same hardware." Or they may just resort to the most hackneyed of truisms; "they're just tools."
Such feigned objectivity in the realm of selecting tools rings hollow when it comes from a community that often obsesses over Teutonic, manually focusing optics.
It really goes to show that some photographers can be just as financially irrational as Mac "cultists;" they just overspend in a different hardware universe.
I'll fight the 'operating system is better fight' with Windows 7 over Snow Leopard any day. I can do things in about 5 less clicks with Windows. Call me when the mac mouse gets more than one button, what the hell is with that?
Scottbed wrote:
I'll fight the 'operating system is better fight' with Windows 7 over Snow Leopard any day. I can do things in about 5 less clicks with Windows. Call me when the mac mouse gets more than one button, what the hell is with that?
Ah, it's confusing but the right part of the mac mouse actually can act as the right button. Nothing more than clicking a little setting in the mouse preferences. So: where's your phone number? I need to call you
Emile Gregoire wrote:
Don't worry, be happy! Do as you please! And let me do as I please, which is spending my money like I want to!
I think you missed my sarcasm, with the little guy hitting his head on the wall. Usually it only tales 4 posts until someone suggests building a 'better' computer. I don;t want to build my own car or computer. I guess it's not so funny if I have to explain it...
Micky Bill wrote:
I think you missed my sarcasm, with the little guy hitting his head on the wall. Usually it only tales 4 posts until someone suggests building a 'better' computer. I don;t want to build my own car or computer. I guess it's not so funny if I have to explain it...
Micky, I'm so sorry I misunderstood. You were just too convincing Should go into politics
Scottbed wrote:
I'll fight the 'operating system is better fight' with Windows 7 over Snow Leopard any day. I can do things in about 5 less clicks with Windows. Call me when the mac mouse gets more than one button, what the hell is with that?
Apparently you haven't been paying attention ... I've been using mice with multiple buttons since OS X 10.2 circa 2001 (oh ... and it worked on OS 9 too) .... it's just that Apple didn't manufacturer a multi button mouse until the Mighty Mouse ... maybe you should look at the current Apple mouse ... it has NO buttons at all ... this fact probably renders it extremely inferior ... http://www.apple.com/magicmouse/
From what little I have seen, Windows 7 does look promising. By comparison in an ease of use factor ... W7 has finally caught up in many areas. OS X has always been about ease of use and fewest clicks necessary ... as well as right-out-of-the-box ready to rock and roll functionality ....
I'm not saying one platform or OS is better ... only that they are moving closer to each other in the terms of style and function ... blanket statements such as yours prove there are still quite a bit of outdated, widely misunderstood information being presented and many out dated misconceptions as well ....
The Mac vs. PC can be anything from a dilemma to a paradox -
It's been two years since I've switched - I do like the simplicity of a mac - yea, they "just work"
I'm well aware that the content inside is not superior to that of an ordinary pc (hardware wise...) - and know that much of the "Buy an Apple" thing is part of a successful design and marketing stuff -
The pros and cons on this topic was even part of strategy analysis at my college - but in the end, it's about YOU
There's just this "thing" that reduces the "COMPUTER" (neither PC...nor MAC ...simply the machine, it is...without sticking to preferences with this term) to the flawless operations - without any negative side effects - less time to be spent on unnecessary stuff. More efficiency, perhaps. That's why I love Macs. So, yea, My Mind is ttly AGAINST MAC, the feelings, however, push for a mac. I can still run essential win32 apps using bootcamp or other typa tools like CROSS OVER MAC no problem.
I agree with the pre-posters above - today's standards don't show significant differences for "basic applications" - likewise performance (as opposed to the general opinion that Macs would perform better w/ photoshop or w/e - simply: no...)
Again, there is no right or wrong. YOU decide. The only wrong decision is let your buying decision based on other people's preferences on this topic.
Everyone agrees with me that I am the most creative person they know. My MacBook Pro allows me to express my creativity by letting everyone know that I own a MacBook Pro. People sometimes ask "Is that a MacBook Pro?" to which I reply, "Yes it is, because I am creative".
Once when I was hiking and became lost in the wilderness, I was attacked by bears. Luckily, I had my MacBook Pro with me which has my face as the desktop picture. I raised the screen high above my head, effectively looking taller to the bears, and they ran away. I then used the shiny titanium case to signal a rescue plane.
The best thing about having a MacBook Pro is that you can take it anywhere...
I recently bought the new 27" iMac and it was a revelation after my old G4.
Really convenient as well......one Firewire cable...a few clicks on the mouse......and it transferred everything from the G4.
Screen is brilliant as far as I'm concerned......and still can't get used to the additional space.
Downsides are limited upgrade potential and I now have several external hard drives linked to it. What is quite cute is I transferred the whole contents of the internal drive to an external and the computer runs perfectly from it...everything is absolutely identicaL Which means ( I guess ) that if I connect the external drive to another INTEL Mac it effectively becomes my Mac if I boot up from it. Probably this can be done with a PC as well.
I have also loaded Parallels software then a Windows OS (XP Pro). Switching is seemless and I can't find any obvious faults (works just like my old work PC) except that I can't get it to recognize any devices such as my mobile broadband and my printers...any suggestions anyone!
anthonygh wrote:
What is quite cute is I transferred the whole contents of the internal drive to an external and the computer runs perfectly from it...everything is absolutely identicaL
If you're saying that you're booting from the external HDD then no, everything is not absolutely identical. Very few external drives, especially connected via Firewire, will run at the same performance as an internal SATA drive...so you're slowing your computer down any time it's doing something disk-intensive, like swapping virtal memory or loading large files or launching large applications.
Which means ( I guess ) that if I connect the external drive to another INTEL Mac it effectively becomes my Mac if I boot up from it. Probably this can be done with a PC as well.
It can't. Mac computers have special hardware chips that the OS looks for and won't boot without, even if the rest of the hardware is compatible. Running OSX on commodity PC hardware is what people refer to as a "Hackintosh" and requires using either a hacked version of OSX, an EFI bootloader or a SATA dongle that emulates Apple's additional hardware and tricks the OS into thinking it's booting on a Mac.
shatterkiss wrote:
It can't. Mac computers have special hardware chips that the OS looks for and won't boot without, even if the rest of the hardware is compatible. Running OSX on commodity PC hardware is what people refer to as a "Hackintosh" and requires using either a hacked version of OSX, an EFI bootloader or a SATA dongle that emulates Apple's additional hardware and tricks the OS into thinking it's booting on a Mac.
Simon ... I think Anthony was referring to booting another intel Mac from his cloned drive ... which can be done without any software hacks ... I do this all the time with my Macbook Pro and iMac to perform repair of permissions to the startup drive after installing apps, etc. ... I discovered this quite by accident by selecting the wrong drive to boot from .. and it works ...
Read again - he also mentioned booting a "PC" from the same drive, which in this thread tends to mean a Windows OS. If he means booting a PC from a Windows OS installed on an external drive (as opposed to his OSX external drive), then that might be possible, depending on the OS version...but that install won't be portable from system to system. Even if the hardware is exactly the same in both machines, using the same drivers, it'll break MS's installation authentication when the machine tries to phone home.
