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p.39 #1 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


denoir wrote:
Thanks Paul & ewadler. That would have been pretty much impossible with any other lens - at least of the ones that I've used. On occasion I can get a better medium format camera look from a single 35/1.4 shot than from a panorama shot with the 100/2.


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That is due to the difference in drawing style, especially the bokeh rendering difference between the two lenses.
And I don't see the same 3-d pop in the new 35/1.4 as it renders more like the 35/2 and both MP's as far as bokeh and separation.



Sep 16, 2010 at 06:19 PM
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p.39 #2 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


What is the MFD on this lens?
-Jim



Sep 17, 2010 at 06:50 AM
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p.39 #3 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


30 cm


Sep 17, 2010 at 06:59 AM
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p.39 #4 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


I just bought ZE 35 ...
I'm seriously thinking about getting the C/Y version as well...
They seem to draw pictures very differently...

I wish I have a better idea how the new ZE 35/1.4's rendering is.....



Sep 17, 2010 at 07:54 AM
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p.39 #5 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


Lloyd Chambers has some samples in the Zeiss guide now. From those I would say it has a bokeh/DOF fallof similar to the old 35/1.4 while the colors are more like the rest of the ZE line and in that respect similar to the 35/2.


Sep 17, 2010 at 08:21 AM
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p.39 #6 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


I don't know about what drawing style means. But I can tell the center sharpness of Zeiss is better compared to ef 35 1.4. Very impressive.


Sep 17, 2010 at 09:39 AM
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p.39 #7 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


denoir wrote:
Lloyd Chambers has some samples in the Zeiss guide now. From those I would say it has a bokeh/DOF fallof similar to the old 35/1.4 while the colors are more like the rest of the ZE line and in that respect similar to the 35/2.


I just saw that ...
What would be the price for new ZE 35/1.4?



Sep 17, 2010 at 10:30 AM
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p.39 #8 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


Sorry if it's been answered, but how much would one expect to pay for the Rollei 35 1.4?


Sep 17, 2010 at 10:33 AM
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p.39 #9 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


New Zeiss 35/1.4: $1800
Old Zeiss 35/1.4 (Rollei, Contax): $1000 +-$200 depending on condition.



Sep 17, 2010 at 10:59 AM
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p.39 #10 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


Thanks. Looks like the old Rollei, C/Y versions of the 35mm might suit my budget better :-)

Amazing examples denoir, !! I feel my wallet lightening already :-)



Sep 17, 2010 at 11:08 AM
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p.39 #11 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


I'm just debating myself whether it's worth to have 2 same focal length lens, despite of their different rendering....




Sep 17, 2010 at 11:13 AM
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p.39 #12 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


I used to have both Contax and Rollei 35/1.4 and I preferred Rollei wide open and Contax stopped down. Sold Contax, now I want it back... But I am sure once Rollei is gone my feelings will reverse


Sep 17, 2010 at 12:36 PM
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p.39 #13 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


Is it noticeably different wide open?


Sep 17, 2010 at 01:39 PM
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p.39 #14 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


Yes, I saw noticeable improvement with Rollei, especially at 100%. Actually, you can see it yourself. Rollei on the left, Contax on the right, 100% magnification:
http://s54.radikal.ru/i143/1009/b9/793711ba0856.jpg



Sep 17, 2010 at 02:29 PM
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p.39 #15 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


Given sample variation that applies to all lenses (or optomechanical items, for that matter) to some extent, I'd be hesitant to make a blanket statment about one version being better/different than the other based on a sample size of "one". That's how rumors start.


Regards,

David



Sep 17, 2010 at 02:35 PM
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p.39 #16 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


Paul Yi wrote:
I'm just debating myself whether it's worth to have 2 same focal length lens, despite of their different rendering....



Three lenses Paul, three lenses: The 35/2, the Rollei or Contax 35/1.4 and the new 35/1.4 ZE.



Sep 17, 2010 at 05:38 PM
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p.39 #17 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


Ataboy wrote:
Yes, I saw noticeable improvement with Rollei, especially at 100%. Actually, you can see it yourself. Rollei on the left, Contax on the right, 100% magnification:


Interesting. How come you miss the Contax if the Rollei was an improvement?

--

I'm going to be accused of again posting gloomy cloudy pictures but I really love the way the 35/1.4 renders the colors of clouds:


http://peltarion.eu/img/zeiss/rz35-170.jpg

http://peltarion.eu/img/zeiss/rz35-171.jpg



Sep 17, 2010 at 05:42 PM
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p.39 #18 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


lol what you talking about .. there looks to be some blue n the clouds hehe. great shots! i love the distance sunlight peeking through behind the clouds


Sep 17, 2010 at 06:12 PM
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p.39 #19 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


denoir wrote:
Lloyd Chambers has some samples in the Zeiss guide now. From those I would say it has a bokeh/DOF fallof similar to the old 35/1.4 while the colors are more like the rest of the ZE line and in that respect similar to the 35/2.


I just looked at his latest samples in the Zeiss guide for the prototype ZE 35/1.4 and its bokeh still looks different than the CZ/Rollei 35/1.4, not seeing the painterly bokeh, and the 3-d look is less. Hard to say for sure since a lot of these shots were taken in lousy dark/dusk conditions and are mostly close up type shots.
He does mention painterly bokeh in the end while discussing the portrait shots but I don't see it in his shots with the crappy dark background. Still a nice lens and am waiting for someone to take some pictures with it which do it justice.



Sep 17, 2010 at 07:18 PM
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p.39 #20 · The official Zeiss 35/1.4 thread


Luka.... you're a dangerous man ....
Your pictures draw me closer to buying this lens...

$1100 for C/Y 35/1.4 in collection quality condition, but no hood...... should I bite?.....



Sep 17, 2010 at 08:11 PM
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