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p.5 #1 · Einsteins 640....Dec??


Oh I see, I know the CC will be a cool device to have and I think I am going to wait for the Einstein and get the CC. Then I don't need the CST and one of the CSRB's I was going to buy. Save myself some money and add some sweet features.

Dave



Dec 17, 2009 at 02:30 PM
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p.5 #2 · Einsteins 640....Dec??


derek walter wrote:
I'm sure they will work with any of the existing CSR/CSRB/CST devices, or any other remote, for that matter.
For use with the cyber commander, you will be able to use the "+" versions or the new plug-in module that will be available for the einstein


There would be no reason to use the "+" modules with the Einstein since it does NOT have the telephone jack connector. That is why you would use the plug-in module. Only the plug-in module will allow you to control the power levels.

Edited on Dec 17, 2009 at 02:32 PM · View previous versions



Dec 17, 2009 at 02:31 PM
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p.5 #3 · Einsteins 640....Dec??


muskydave22 wrote:
So the Einstein can't be triggered by the CST?


That is incorrect. They CAN be triggered by the CST.



Dec 17, 2009 at 02:32 PM
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p.5 #4 · Einsteins 640....Dec??


So if I buy the module for the Einstein, Use the CC as the trigger, and buy another csrb+ for my speedlight I should be good?

Dave



Dec 17, 2009 at 02:36 PM
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p.5 #5 · Einsteins 640....Dec??


muskydave22 wrote:
So if I buy the module for the Einstein, Use the CC as the trigger, and buy another csrb+ for my speedlight I should be good?


From what I have read, yes. Though not sure what the benefit of getting a CSRB+ versus just a CSRB for the speedlight would be. Since the "+" modules can only control power levels on the classic AlienBees (non Einstein) and White Lightnings. They won't control power levels on speedlights.



Dec 17, 2009 at 02:40 PM
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p.5 #6 · Einsteins 640....Dec??


I would get the + version for when I add another bee. Just thinking ahead.

Dave



Dec 17, 2009 at 02:44 PM
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p.5 #7 · Einsteins 640....Dec??


Has anyone seen this yet? Looks like some new development on the release of Einstein.
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-10046-10411



Dec 17, 2009 at 02:44 PM
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CUclimber wrote:
In other words: There is no way these are going to be released this month.


The previous estimate was if everything went perfectly. HW/SW development almost never goes that way. Personally, I predict mid-Feb before I get one in my hands in case there's another surprise in January, but there's probably a 90% chance Feb is real



Dec 17, 2009 at 03:15 PM
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RMS956 wrote:
Has anyone seen this yet? Looks like some new development on the release of Einstein.
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-10046-10411


What's new there? In fact, clicking the "previous article" link at the bottom shows very similar info and the same CAD rendering from two months ago.



Dec 17, 2009 at 03:21 PM
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shatterkiss wrote:
What's new there?


The date on the article :-)



Dec 17, 2009 at 03:24 PM
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kenyee wrote:
The previous estimate was if everything went perfectly. HW/SW development almost never goes that way. Personally, I predict mid-Feb before I get one in my hands in case there's another surprise in January, but there's probably a 90% chance Feb is real

True, but Paul hasn't come back here with any new estimates since his "Late December" goal that he put forth on December 3rd. If they're still making changes to the schematics they aren't going to be shipping any time soon.

He would do well to stop getting that whole "Under-promise, over-deliver" thing backwards when it comes to release dates.

(I'm not trying to pick on him or his company, btw. I'm a fan, a customer, and I do know how complex it is to design a piece of electronics such as this)



Dec 17, 2009 at 03:28 PM
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CUclimber wrote:
(I'm not trying to pick on him or his company, btw. I'm a fan, a customer, and I do know how complex it is to design a piece of electronics such as this)


You just painted a big ol' target on your forehead nonetheless. Welcome to the club!



Dec 17, 2009 at 04:13 PM
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HappyCamp wrote:
There would be no reason to use the "+" modules with the Einstein since it does NOT have the telephone jack connector. That is why you would use the plug-in module. Only the plug-in module will allow you to control the power levels.



You are correct, I was mistaken. Too bad they didn't make it reverse compatible with the existing + remotes

From PCB Technical: "The Einsteins do not have the RJ-11 jack on the back, therefore they will not be compatabile with the CSR+ or CSRB+, outside of basic triggering. The CSXCV module will be required for full functionality of the CyberCommander".



Dec 17, 2009 at 07:15 PM
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p.5 #14 · Einsteins 640....Dec??


shatterkiss wrote:
What's new there? In fact, clicking the "previous article" link at the bottom shows very similar info and the same CAD rendering from two months ago.




The paragraph at the top that says:

"Assuming no last-minute hiccups, pre-ordering is scheduled to commence before the end of this month, with delivery from the company's Nashville, Tennessee-based headquarters to follow in the first half of January 2010."



Dec 17, 2009 at 07:22 PM
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CUclimber wrote:
[True, but Paul hasn't come back here with any new estimates since his "Late December" goal that he put forth on December 3rd. If they're still making changes to the schematics they aren't going to be shipping any time soon.


Hopefully he won't until they actually start production and test the first batch for manufacturing consistency (that's how most companies work to avoid the slipping estimate issues). You can find surprises through the entire design process and even when you start testing interop between different components (e.g., the vagabond low voltage quirk w/ the CC and radiopoppers).

No idea where the 2 drafting errors are. If they're in the shell, it'll hurt but they can bribe the manufacturer to do a respin quickly. If it's on the board, it means a board respin which means weeks



Dec 17, 2009 at 09:43 PM
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kenyee wrote:
The previous estimate was if everything went perfectly. HW/SW development almost never goes that way. Personally, I predict mid-Feb before I get one in my hands in case there's another surprise in January, but there's probably a 90% chance Feb is real


You guys are killin me with your inside knowledge

If Paul and company was smart they would not make any pre announcement at all. What would your estimates be based on then.....beyond, errrr, ummmm,.....

Canon don't tell you jack most of the time. People sit a speculate all darn day.



Dec 17, 2009 at 10:24 PM
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p.5 #17 · Einsteins 640....Dec??


The info I have provided has all come from a barrage of "when's it coming, what does it do" and that includes a call to me yesterday from Rob Galbraith. Ask me no questions I'll tell you no lies. Ask me a zillion questions and I guess I'm fool enough to answer them as truthfully as I can. Some like my openness, replete with mistakes and missed schedules and others love to say I told you so, Buff is a fool, a liar a cheat, a manipulator - you name it.

Nothing has changed in the schematics and the prototypes work 100% and have for a couple of months. We are debugging the pre-production boards and finding a few drafting mistakes, etc. New boards take a few days. All parts are in stock in big quantities. Production takes about two weeks once we hand them (our robotic vendor) the finalized boards. If it weren't for Christmas we could probably make the December schedule. But it seems like only myself and Deb work on Christmas and new Years and Thanksgiving, etc.

Seems like there are a lot of manufacturing experts on this forum.

As far as reverse compatibility with the 20 year old analog interface . . . . what can I say . . . this technology won't support Einsteins capabilities. How come my new iMac won't run OS7? Gee . . . DOS was pretty good - pcs ought to be able to run it, along with Photoshop V1.



Dec 18, 2009 at 01:21 AM
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p.5 #18 · Einsteins 640....Dec??


Hey Paul, will the same 10% discount apply to original AB Max pre-orders?


Dec 18, 2009 at 03:25 AM
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p.5 #19 · Einsteins 640....Dec??


Still no news about europe?


Dec 18, 2009 at 06:05 AM
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p.5 #20 · Einsteins 640....Dec??


same question as Crev! we NEED your products in Spain! Tired of low quality chinese and crazy expensive european brands


Dec 18, 2009 at 06:31 AM
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