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p.3 #1Rokinon 85/1.4 Does Model Shoot
Gasrocks, could it just be vignetting?
I find that due to vignetting many lenses only need 2/3 EV slower shutter speed when going from wide open to one stop down to achieve a comparable average exposure.
I find that due to vignetting many lenses only need 2/3 EV slower shutter speed when going from wide open to one stop down to achieve a comparable average exposure.
Oct 30, 2009 at 11:31 AM
p.3 #2Rokinon 85/1.4 Does Model Shoot
smithphyo wrote:
A nice portrait series. Very nice bokeh and contrast. Is the lens only Manual Focus?
The Canon mount version is fully manual (both focus and aperture). I'm pretty sure the F and K mount versions offer camera controlled aperture.
A nice portrait series. Very nice bokeh and contrast. Is the lens only Manual Focus?
The Canon mount version is fully manual (both focus and aperture). I'm pretty sure the F and K mount versions offer camera controlled aperture.
Oct 30, 2009 at 11:49 AM
p.3 #3Rokinon 85/1.4 Does Model Shoot
cogitech wrote:
This is currently the best deal going for an EOS mount version, since "cametaauctions" has none of the EOS mount Rokinons listed: http://cgi.ebay.com/Opteka-85mm-f-1-4-IF-Portrait-Lens-for-Canon-EOS-SLR-85_W0QQitemZ360201642986
Apparently it doesn't include the hood (which is sub-standard anyway). "Includes: Opteka 85mm f/1.4 Portrait Lens, Front & Rear Lens Caps, Lens Pouch, 1 Year Opteka Warranty."
You can always cover the label with black tape, if that's a concern. ("Opteka?!!!")
Unfortunately for Canadians, they ship via UPS, and will only take up to $200 via PayPal.
A better deal for those south of the border, I suppose.
This is currently the best deal going for an EOS mount version, since "cametaauctions" has none of the EOS mount Rokinons listed: http://cgi.ebay.com/Opteka-85mm-f-1-4-IF-Portrait-Lens-for-Canon-EOS-SLR-85_W0QQitemZ360201642986
Apparently it doesn't include the hood (which is sub-standard anyway). "Includes: Opteka 85mm f/1.4 Portrait Lens, Front & Rear Lens Caps, Lens Pouch, 1 Year Opteka Warranty."
You can always cover the label with black tape, if that's a concern. ("Opteka?!!!")
Unfortunately for Canadians, they ship via UPS, and will only take up to $200 via PayPal.
A better deal for those south of the border, I suppose.Oct 30, 2009 at 11:53 AM
p.3 #4Rokinon 85/1.4 Does Model Shoot
Does the Samyang line of lenses have AF confirmation chips? Or any kind of electrical connection to the camera?
Oct 30, 2009 at 12:31 PM
p.3 #5Rokinon 85/1.4 Does Model Shoot
cogitech wrote:
The Canon mount version is fully manual (both focus and aperture). I'm pretty sure the F and K mount versions offer camera controlled aperture.
Do the aperture and focus rings go "the wrong way" on the Canon version?
smithphyo wrote
A nice portrait series. Very nice bokeh and contrast. Is the lens only Manual Focus?Do the aperture and focus rings go "the wrong way" on the Canon version?
Oct 30, 2009 at 12:35 PM
p.3 #6Rokinon 85/1.4 Does Model Shoot
NO on the AF confirmation chip, at least for the Sony mount versions. The Sony version, like the EF, is completely stop-down manual - no electronic control of the aperture.
Oct 30, 2009 at 12:36 PM
p.3 #7Rokinon 85/1.4 Does Model Shoot
If one really wanted the 'blinkies', I imagine they could buy the chip from someone like big_is and glue it on.
Oct 30, 2009 at 12:43 PM
p.3 #8Rokinon 85/1.4 Does Model Shoot
helimat wrote:
If one really wanted the 'blinkies', I imagine they could buy the chip from someone like big_is and glue it on.
Yes, one can do that with the Sony as well. At least with the Sony a900, the really big advantage I see would be the ability to shoot in aperture priority mode as well as a more accurate Steady Shot function.
If one really wanted the 'blinkies', I imagine they could buy the chip from someone like big_is and glue it on.
Yes, one can do that with the Sony as well. At least with the Sony a900, the really big advantage I see would be the ability to shoot in aperture priority mode as well as a more accurate Steady Shot function.
Oct 30, 2009 at 12:55 PM
p.3 #9Rokinon 85/1.4 Does Model Shoot
PSquared63 wrote:
The Canon mount version is fully manual (both focus and aperture). I'm pretty sure the F and K mount versions offer camera controlled aperture.Do the aperture and focus rings go "the wrong way" on the Canon version?
The focus ring goes "the right way" (opposite of Nikon). The aperture ring goes the other way, which isn't really the "wrong" way since no EF lenses have an aperture ring.
cogitech wrote
smithphyo wrote
A nice portrait series. Very nice bokeh and contrast. Is the lens only Manual Focus?The focus ring goes "the right way" (opposite of Nikon). The aperture ring goes the other way, which isn't really the "wrong" way since no EF lenses have an aperture ring.
Oct 30, 2009 at 12:56 PM
p.3 #10Rokinon 85/1.4 Does Model Shoot
helimat wrote:
Apparently it doesn't include the hood (which is sub-standard anyway). "Includes: Opteka 85mm f/1.4 Portrait Lens, Front & Rear Lens Caps, Lens Pouch, 1 Year Opteka Warranty."
You can always cover the label with black tape, if that's a concern. ("Opteka?!!!")Unfortunately for Canadians, they ship via UPS, and will only take up to $200 via PayPal. A better deal for those south of the border, I suppose.
Ah, I didn't know that. Very good to know, though. Thanks.
(mental note; avoid 47th)
cogitech wrote
This is currently the best deal going for an EOS mount version, since "cametaauctions" has none of the EOS mount Rokinons listed: http://cgi.ebay.com/Opteka-85mm-f-1-4-IF-Portrait-Lens-for-Canon-EOS-SLR-85_W0QQitemZ360201642986Apparently it doesn't include the hood (which is sub-standard anyway). "Includes: Opteka 85mm f/1.4 Portrait Lens, Front & Rear Lens Caps, Lens Pouch, 1 Year Opteka Warranty."
You can always cover the label with black tape, if that's a concern. ("Opteka?!!!")
A better deal for those south of the border, I suppose.Ah, I didn't know that. Very good to know, though. Thanks.
(mental note; avoid 47th)
Oct 30, 2009 at 12:57 PM
p.3 #11Rokinon 85/1.4 Does Model Shoot
cogitech wrote:
But my priorities have had a bit of a paradigm shift lately. My CV 125/2.5 is also gone, and I've "replaced" part of its functionality with a $60 lens.
Well Daaammn. We want to hear about that! Spill the beans! ;-) that's serious talk, given that your 125 I thought was a '....cold, dead hands' kind of lens for you.
-Ed
But my priorities have had a bit of a paradigm shift lately. My CV 125/2.5 is also gone, and I've "replaced" part of its functionality with a $60 lens.
Well Daaammn. We want to hear about that! Spill the beans! ;-) that's serious talk, given that your 125 I thought was a '....cold, dead hands' kind of lens for you.
-Ed
Oct 30, 2009 at 01:41 PM
p.3 #12Rokinon 85/1.4 Does Model Shoot
Ed Sawyer wrote:
Well Daaammn. We want to hear about that! Spill the beans! ;-) that's serious talk, given that your 125 I thought was a '....cold, dead hands' kind of lens for you.
-Ed
Yes, which $60 lens would that be?
cogitech wrote
But my priorities have had a bit of a paradigm shift lately. My CV 125/2.5 is also gone, and I've "replaced" part of its functionality with a $60 lens.-Ed
Yes, which $60 lens would that be?
Oct 30, 2009 at 01:52 PM
p.3 #13Rokinon 85/1.4 Does Model Shoot
Ed Sawyer wrote:
Well Daaammn. We want to hear about that! Spill the beans! ;-) that's serious talk, given that your 125 I thought was a '....cold, dead hands' kind of lens for you.
-Ed
Yes, it was a "cold, dead hands" lens. I'll always miss it. But other things tend to take priority over lenses. In this case, new windows for my home. I've also come to realize that having "the best" lenses makes no difference to my clients or my enjoyment of photography as a hobby. The Rokinon will make it easy to let go of the SSC Aspherical.
There's no real replacement for the CV 125, of course, but I picked up a Rolleinar-MC (Mamiya-made) 135/2.8 (4 element version) for "long portrait" work. It's a damn fine lens as far as I can tell. I'll be posting shots with it in the near future. I was tempted to get another Contax Sonnar 135/2.8, but tests I saw showed the Rolleinar to be basically on par, and it is smaller, lighter and less than half the price.
I don't do a lot of "true macro", so I'm sticking with the EF 50/2.5 CM for now. I might buy the life-size converter for it, or buy an old manual focus 1:1 macro at some point, but it isn't a priority for me at all.
cogitech wrote
But my priorities have had a bit of a paradigm shift lately. My CV 125/2.5 is also gone, and I've "replaced" part of its functionality with a $60 lens.-Ed
Yes, it was a "cold, dead hands" lens. I'll always miss it. But other things tend to take priority over lenses. In this case, new windows for my home. I've also come to realize that having "the best" lenses makes no difference to my clients or my enjoyment of photography as a hobby. The Rokinon will make it easy to let go of the SSC Aspherical.
There's no real replacement for the CV 125, of course, but I picked up a Rolleinar-MC (Mamiya-made) 135/2.8 (4 element version) for "long portrait" work. It's a damn fine lens as far as I can tell. I'll be posting shots with it in the near future. I was tempted to get another Contax Sonnar 135/2.8, but tests I saw showed the Rolleinar to be basically on par, and it is smaller, lighter and less than half the price.
I don't do a lot of "true macro", so I'm sticking with the EF 50/2.5 CM for now. I might buy the life-size converter for it, or buy an old manual focus 1:1 macro at some point, but it isn't a priority for me at all.
Oct 30, 2009 at 02:00 PM
p.3 #14Rokinon 85/1.4 Does Model Shoot
Whoever said it was right; web JPEGs can only tell us so much.
Here's a quick 100% crop from a random sample to give you all a better idea...
http://www.cogitech.ca/photos/Rokinon/Joanna/crop.jpg
Here's a quick 100% crop from a random sample to give you all a better idea...
http://www.cogitech.ca/photos/Rokinon/Joanna/crop.jpg
Oct 30, 2009 at 03:51 PM
p.3 #15Rokinon 85/1.4 Does Model Shoot
Paul, your wife is a fine photographer. Kudos to her.
The model is also very photogenic, which doesn't hurt one bit.
The model is also very photogenic, which doesn't hurt one bit.
Oct 30, 2009 at 04:16 PM
p.3 #16Rokinon 85/1.4 Does Model Shoot
Tariq Gibran wrote:
At the same time I purchased the Rokinon, I also picked up a very nice Super Multi Coated Takumar 85 1.8. While the Tak is sharper closed down and offers more contrast, I think I will be getting rid of it. It's just so nice to shoot the Rokinon between 1.4 and 2.8 and the Rokinon offers better Bokeh to boot.
I was wondering about a comparison: I have that same Tak as well, and I love it. How's the build quality compare between the two? And what suprises me is your comment about shooting the Rokinon wide open - you can't with the Tak? Mine is "Tak" sharp at f1.8:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/ufiles/09/372409.jpg
At the same time I purchased the Rokinon, I also picked up a very nice Super Multi Coated Takumar 85 1.8. While the Tak is sharper closed down and offers more contrast, I think I will be getting rid of it. It's just so nice to shoot the Rokinon between 1.4 and 2.8 and the Rokinon offers better Bokeh to boot.
I was wondering about a comparison: I have that same Tak as well, and I love it. How's the build quality compare between the two? And what suprises me is your comment about shooting the Rokinon wide open - you can't with the Tak? Mine is "Tak" sharp at f1.8:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/ufiles/09/372409.jpg
Oct 30, 2009 at 08:43 PM
p.3 #17Rokinon 85/1.4 Does Model Shoot
Marcel VanEerd wrote:
I was wondering about a comparison: I have that same Tak as well, and I love it. How's the build quality compare between the two? And what suprises me is your comment about shooting the Rokinon wide open - you can't with the Tak? Mine is "Tak" sharp at f1.8:
https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/ufiles/09/372409.jpg
There is no comparison between the Tak and the Rokinon. The Tak is simply beautifully made as you know. The Rokinon is decent but nowhere near the build quality of the Tak.
Wide open, CA is more noticeable with the Tak than with the Rokinon. That was really surprising to me as the Rokinon actually shows worse/more noticeable CA when stopped down one or two stops vs wide open. The Tak acts more as expected in that it shows it's worst CA wide open and improves stopped down. Both perform really will in this respect and issues will only be noticeable under extreme conditions. The Tak is sharp wide open but I can tell that it improves, particularly towards the edges when stopped down. That is on my a900 and under extreme scrutiny. Which camera are you using your Tak with out of curiosity?
The main advantage of the Rokinon over the Tak, beyond its ability to shoot at 1.4, is the Bokeh which is better than the Tak at every F-stop in my opinion. The out of focus areas with the Rokinon seem softer - blend together a bit more and are "rounder". The advantage the Tak has over the Rokinon is richer color, better micro contrast and the ability to pull off more resolving power into the corners when stopped down.
Tariq Gibran wrote
At the same time I purchased the Rokinon, I also picked up a very nice Super Multi Coated Takumar 85 1.8. While the Tak is sharper closed down and offers more contrast, I think I will be getting rid of it. It's just so nice to shoot the Rokinon between 1.4 and 2.8 and the Rokinon offers better Bokeh to boot.https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/ufiles/09/372409.jpg
There is no comparison between the Tak and the Rokinon. The Tak is simply beautifully made as you know. The Rokinon is decent but nowhere near the build quality of the Tak.
Wide open, CA is more noticeable with the Tak than with the Rokinon. That was really surprising to me as the Rokinon actually shows worse/more noticeable CA when stopped down one or two stops vs wide open. The Tak acts more as expected in that it shows it's worst CA wide open and improves stopped down. Both perform really will in this respect and issues will only be noticeable under extreme conditions. The Tak is sharp wide open but I can tell that it improves, particularly towards the edges when stopped down. That is on my a900 and under extreme scrutiny. Which camera are you using your Tak with out of curiosity?
The main advantage of the Rokinon over the Tak, beyond its ability to shoot at 1.4, is the Bokeh which is better than the Tak at every F-stop in my opinion. The out of focus areas with the Rokinon seem softer - blend together a bit more and are "rounder". The advantage the Tak has over the Rokinon is richer color, better micro contrast and the ability to pull off more resolving power into the corners when stopped down.
Oct 30, 2009 at 09:14 PM
p.3 #18Rokinon 85/1.4 Does Model Shoot
^ Thanks for your detailed feedback. Sounds like I will be sticking with my Tak. This shot, as most of my work, is with a 1D classic.
Oct 30, 2009 at 09:18 PM
p.3 #19Rokinon 85/1.4 Does Model Shoot
Your welcome. I'm going to do some more shooting with the Tak before I let it go because it is a really nice lens.
Oct 30, 2009 at 09:24 PM
p.3 #20Rokinon 85/1.4 Does Model Shoot
Tariq Gibran wrote:
NO on the AF confirmation chip, at least for the Sony mount versions. The Sony version, like the EF, is completely stop-down manual - no electronic control of the aperture.
Anyone know if the Nikon version of the Rokinon features AiS or auto aperture control or is it all manual stop down only ?
Wonderful shots for such a reasonable lens... thanks for posting.
NO on the AF confirmation chip, at least for the Sony mount versions. The Sony version, like the EF, is completely stop-down manual - no electronic control of the aperture.
Anyone know if the Nikon version of the Rokinon features AiS or auto aperture control or is it all manual stop down only ?
Wonderful shots for such a reasonable lens... thanks for posting.
Oct 30, 2009 at 10:06 PM