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Archive 2009 · what is '3d' ?

Marcel VanEerd
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p.6 #1 · p.6 #1 · what is '3d' ?

^ Nope, not to me. Sorry. (Don't feel bad - I'm NOT the authority on the topic, just an opinion)

Nov 02, 2009 at 06:17 PM

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p.6 #2 · p.6 #2 · what is '3d' ?

Marcel VanEerd wrote:
^ I disagree... although perhaps painstakingly sharp, there is no 3D feel to either image: could it be your mistaking 3D for "pop"?

Dammit yes - that's the word. Pop. I was reading Ansel Adams 'the Print' the other day and suddenly it all became clear. He says always use more pop. And in 'the Camera' he even recommends buying cameras that have a 'pop' button ;-)

Seriously, at least 3D effect is specific. I think 'pop' is a word people use in order to avoid objective discussion. None of my photos has ever had 'pop' and to be honest, I hope they never do. It's the noise a balloon makes when you stick a pin in it, and it's short for popular, especially in reference to music. If we can't agree on a definition of 3D effect, we'll certainly never be able to define, and therefore use 'pop' to communicate anything useful.

Nov 02, 2009 at 08:34 PM

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p.6 #3 · p.6 #3 · what is '3d' ?

Ronan O Keeffe wrote:

How about this effort? Slightly misfocused as I was in the process of falling on my rear end when I took it. I'm undecided if it exhibits any depth.


	http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3293/4069627980_84d91330b3_b.jpg

Was this the 35/1.8? I feel like it has some pop. Although aparently my definition of "3D" is different from others in this thread.

Nov 02, 2009 at 09:05 PM

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p.6 #4 · p.6 #4 · what is '3d' ?

I think this one has the 3D/'pop' look

https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/827487/0#7715507

Cheer

Nov 02, 2009 at 09:06 PM

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p.6 #5 · p.6 #5 · what is '3d' ?

OK - I'm outta here ;-)

Nov 03, 2009 at 07:24 AM

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p.6 #6 · p.6 #6 · what is '3d' ?

That picture has more Jazz than Pop. Seriously though if you don't see the 3D effect on the planar 100/2 images you're blind.

Nov 03, 2009 at 08:38 AM

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p.6 #7 · p.6 #7 · what is '3d' ?

Eric Schwab wrote:
That picture has more Jazz than Pop. Seriously though if you don't see the 3D effect on the planar 100/2 images you're blind.

"Tone Deaf" vs. "3D Blind" ... some people may just not be able to differentiate as well as others, which is unfortunate as they are missing out on what we enjoy ...

Nov 03, 2009 at 09:35 AM

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p.6 #8 · p.6 #8 · what is '3d' ?

weezintrumpete wrote:
Was this the 35/1.8? I feel like it has some pop. Although aparently my definition of "3D" is different from others in this thread.

Hi Patrick, it was indeed.

Nov 03, 2009 at 10:06 AM

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p.6 #9 · p.6 #9 · what is '3d' ?

I think this has a '3D feel' to it...not just a shallow DOF. (a900 & CZ 135mm Sonnar @ f5.6)

http://www.thewarmland.com/img/v3/p334100635-5.jpg

Nov 03, 2009 at 11:52 AM

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p.6 #10 · p.6 #10 · what is '3d' ?

Mamiya 150mm f8

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2567/4071984153_35c960f89d_b.jpg

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Nov 03, 2009 at 01:01 PM

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p.6 #11 · p.6 #11 · what is '3d' ?

Yes, I think so too. If you were a little closer, it might even have a tad more... I am looking at the two unopened buds at the bottom.

Nov 07, 2009 at 03:07 PM

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p.6 #12 · p.6 #12 · what is '3d' ?

Glad someone else is seeing it too!

It was just a quick test shot from the other day. Walked by a local photo shop that had a used one for sale at a good price. Could not resist and the 3D is a bonus...'

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Nov 07, 2009 at 03:13 PM

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p.6 #13 · p.6 #13 · what is '3d' ?

Sam N wrote:
It's mostly down to DOF, lighting, textures, and subject distance vs. background distance.

It actually doesn't have too much to do with the lens, though some would like to think that it does.

Don't buy in to all the hype.
I agree totally.

Nov 07, 2009 at 03:20 PM

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p.6 #14 · p.6 #14 · what is '3d' ?

So, Sam and musclepics, do you have some examples?

Nov 07, 2009 at 03:33 PM

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p.6 #15 · p.6 #15 · what is '3d' ?

I think this one is 3D: https://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/597185/225#7744808

Nov 07, 2009 at 03:43 PM

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p.6 #16 · p.6 #16 · what is '3d' ?

I see a bit around the middle of the shoe, but in general I think this photo shows more of a Leica-typical boke than Zeiss, i.e. subject isolation and less detail in the boke.

Nov 07, 2009 at 04:14 PM

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p.6 #17 · p.6 #17 · what is '3d' ?

For me, 3D isn't only about shallow DOF but about finding something in the picture that helps relate to distance. Here, at f/2 (135L, not Alt sorry), the front and back OOF seems to help that 3D feeling. So, more than magic driven from German engineers, composition might have something to do w/ it.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3108/3792807307_ba646df24b_o.jpg

Nov 10, 2009 at 08:42 AM

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p.6 #18 · p.6 #18 · what is '3d' ?

musclepics wrote:
I agree totally.

I totally disagree (regarding doesn't have much to do with lens).

I agree that other elements contribute to perspective, but without the lens' ability to resolve the gradient changes as the light 'wraps' around its subjects ... you'll NEVER get it. Does it have to be Zeiss lens, certainly not, but it must have the ability to resolve minute variance (forgive the technically challenged) ... otherwise, you should be able to get as much a 3-D from a coke bottle as you do a microscope.

jpgs from camera via flickr

Canon 28-135 @ 80 mm f8
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2443/4071793917_369af0d330.jpg

Zeiss 80-200 @ 80mm f8
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2748/4071794597_f177d639c5.jpg

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Nov 10, 2009 at 08:57 AM

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p.6 #19 · p.6 #19 · what is '3d' ?

AlexTokyo wrote:
For me, 3D isn't only about shallow DOF but about finding something in the picture that helps relate to distance. Here, at f/2 (135L, not Alt sorry), the front and back OOF seems to help that 3D feeling. So, more than magic driven from German engineers, composition might have something to do w/ it.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3108/3792807307_ba646df24b_o.jpg

Wow, just like looking into a "diorama". I hope it's the correct word for it, I had to use google to translate the Dutch word "kijkdoos".

Nov 10, 2009 at 09:04 AM

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p.6 #20 · p.6 #20 · what is '3d' ?

AlexTokyo wrote:
For me, 3D isn't only about shallow DOF but about finding something in the picture that helps relate to distance. Here, at f/2 (135L, not Alt sorry), the front and back OOF seems to help that 3D feeling. So, more than magic driven from German engineers, composition might have something to do w/ it.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3108/3792807307_ba646df24b_o.jpg

Is there additional selective blurring via post processing in this image to increase the illusion? It certainly does not look like a 'straight' photograph.

Nov 10, 2009 at 09:12 AM

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