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nathanlake wrote:
I disagree.
OK. 
If someone is making the case that the price for the 1D-IV is too high, then those types of comparisons are very meaningful.
I disagree.
But, let's compare just the MIII and MIV. What is the HD video worth?
Zero in my book right now....
To some, it might be worth nothing. Those people will not buy it.
Sorry, that's incorrect; we'll soon have no choice. I had this argument (it wasn't quite a discussion) with some others that think these new video features are "free"; they're not, we pay for them, but we can leave that discussion alone.
The problem is that for those of us that don't care about video, we're paying for it anyway. We can't elect to buy a 1D4 without video, or a 7d or even a 5d2 for that matter. It's no longer possible, so the argument falls apart. If you want a new camera today, you HAVE to pay for video...I want a new camera but not one with features I don't care about, a cropped sensor, a crappy body (5d2), etc. I, we, can't change it, it's just the way the world is today.
For those that are contemplating also buying a video camera, it is worth a $1000 or more easily. Camera prices are not set based solely on production costs. They are in large part based on what Canon believes will be of value to the customer.
I absolutely guarantee that the number of people that actually want to pay for video is a fraction of the people that just want a still camera. Video has been around, and largely ignored, by 50 million P&S users (no exaggeration on that number), yet those people routinely use their cameras to take "pictures".
Sure there's a difference in quality (the 1D4 looks like it produces great video quality judging from the examples I've seen), but not many people will rise to the level of a Vincent L, hire actors/models, get 15-20 support people together for filming (and then pretend he just "knocked it out" while he was brushing his teeth) before a crew takes on final production. In other words, don't be fooled... We're going to see more cat videos, pictures of everyone's kids that no one really wants to see, bad sporting event "films", and terabytes of trash. 
We're off our original discussion, but the point is that Canon doesn't care about what most of us think. They care about what a FEW people think, and I know I'm not in that select group. Canon is marketing products designed for the needs of those few, and making it the only choice for the many.
There was a recent thread with a link to a video where a Canon guy was talking to video people. The discussion was about the 5d2, but applies to all Canon's thinking these days. It's the convergence of video and still photography; a largely unstoppable train at this point. I guess we can either ride it, or be left behind. I'm not sure what I want to do yet.
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