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AGeoJO wrote:
Richard,
That's one heck of a great image using your 135mm lens but it hardly falls under "nature & wildlife" category . .



You never know she might be WILD in her NATURE
And as we know brainiac likes all things alternative



Sep 30, 2009 at 03:05 AM
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p.2 #2 · Jumbing to Canon ?


Ian.Dobinson wrote:
You never know she might be WILD in her NATURE:D
And as we know brainiac likes all things alternative:D


No comment ;-)



Sep 30, 2009 at 05:38 AM
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brainiac wrote:
Yes - if you are a long lens shooter for sports or wildlife moving at distance the 7D will indeed be better. But the 5D2 is great too. Get both ;-)


I am primarily a long lens sports shooter and I'm trading my 1DMkII for a 7D.



Sep 30, 2009 at 05:50 AM
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p.2 #4 · Jumbing to Canon ?


globalkiwi wrote:
You dog!


We've been together for 10 years. I commend Petkal and Doo-bop on their excellent taste...



Sep 30, 2009 at 06:51 AM
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MSC wrote:
Nikon colors are def different. Not as vibrant. Not sure if that is good or bad, just different. I've been comparing a lot lately.


I'm sure whatever differences you find in color can be corrected/changed/tweaked/whatever in your post processing program of choice.



Sep 30, 2009 at 07:22 AM
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kakomu wrote:
I'm sure whatever differences you find in color can be corrected/changed/tweaked/whatever in your post processing program of choice.


it looks over processed so no would be the answer.



Sep 30, 2009 at 08:30 AM
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I will just add that the long L lenses are considered a bit better (and possibly cheaper). At the same time nikon traditionally made better wide optics, so a good pick for birding imho. sz



Sep 30, 2009 at 09:36 AM
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MSC wrote:
it looks over processed so no would be the answer.


Your post processing program of choice can "unprocess" whatever processing you feel has been done.Moreover, if you feel there is a consistent problem you can always batch the process to transform many images at once.

Though, I think a better question is: Can you quantify the over processing you describe?



Sep 30, 2009 at 10:25 AM
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Either Canon or Nikon can render the same look it really comes down to who is processing the photos. One picture is take with the D3x and the other with a 1ds mk III it would be hard pressed to tell which is which with out looking at the exif.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2441/3866089101_86718685f6.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3106/3138928440_a10ed76a3a.jpg



Sep 30, 2009 at 11:39 AM
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no, not really interested in debating this or proving my point with a project i don't have time for, it is however my observation over many years and shooting both nikon and canon digital and i'm really good with post work.


Sep 30, 2009 at 01:41 PM
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MSC wrote:
no, not really interested in debating this or proving my point with a project i don't have time for, it is however my observation over many years and shooting both nikon and canon digital and i'm really good with post work.


That's wonderful, but certainly you can understand that this is a forum, which is supposed to facilitate discourse. Simple, broad statements don't fly well if there's not quantification or description to show your point.



Sep 30, 2009 at 02:27 PM
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kakomu wrote:
That's wonderful, but certainly you can understand that this is a forum, which is supposed to facilitate discourse. Simple, broad statements don't fly well if there's not quantification or description to show your point.


gosh, thanks for the insight on how FM works...will be sure and write that down and comply with every meaningless timewasting request from here on.



Sep 30, 2009 at 02:48 PM
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kakomu wrote:
Your post processing program of choice can "unprocess" whatever processing you feel has been done.


You can't "unprocess" differences in Color Filter Arrays.

You can try to post-process images from different cameras to the same single standard, but you can't unprocess to the underlying reality.

Kaa




Sep 30, 2009 at 02:53 PM
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Bruce Sawle wrote:
Either Canon or Nikon can render the same look it really comes down to who is processing the photos. One picture is take with the D3x and the other with a 1ds mk III it would be hard pressed to tell which is which with out looking at the exif.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2441/3866089101_86718685f6.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3106/3138928440_a10ed76a3a.jpg


# 1--Canon

#2-- Nikon

As your images have no EXIFs, so can't prove I am wrong or right...



Sep 30, 2009 at 03:05 PM
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MSC wrote:
gosh, thanks for the insight on how FM works...will be sure and write that down and comply with every meaningless timewasting request from here on.


Are you suggesting that we should just take everything you say at face value without proof?



Sep 30, 2009 at 03:05 PM
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kakomu wrote:
. Simple, broad statements don't fly well if there's not quantification or description to show your point.


Where's the proof for your point? Can you show it to us ?



Sep 30, 2009 at 03:08 PM
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kakomu wrote:
Are you suggesting that we should just take everything you say at face value without proof?


No, fair enough...in this case, I'm stating my opinion and not a white paper...but please feel free. Basically, this is a non-issue to me but I think the colors are different. Primary colors jump more with Canon right out of the box...open them neutral in the same converter and this is obviously true to anybody with eyeballs that work. That said, I not sure that is a good thing. Is velvia better than kodachrome? It is a style thing and personal.



Sep 30, 2009 at 03:11 PM
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lidesun wrote:
Where's the proof for your point? Can you show it to us ?


Agreed, show your own "proof" first and then, maybe, I'll spend a bunch of time putting together a case...will get right on it.



Sep 30, 2009 at 03:13 PM
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A comparison w/ a D700 would have been a tad more fair and different results. Agree w/ what Bean & others have said; great shot Mr Braniac and Peter you are correct!


Sep 30, 2009 at 03:25 PM
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p.2 #20 · Jumbing to Canon ?


PierreB wrote:
[ am primarily a long lens sports shooter and I'm trading my 1DMkII for a 7D.


I'm also a long lens shooter (birds), but I'm holding on to my 1D2. I'm comfortable that the 7D will be a great camera, but the expectations are just too high right now. Even if it does out-focus the 1D2 I'll still want two fast bodies for flexibility and backup.



Sep 30, 2009 at 03:30 PM
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