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cameron12x wrote:
Thanks for the information, Conrad... great shots, too, btw.

When you have a chance, try some low-light stuff too.


Thanks Cameron! Low light in a couple days. I've become really behind in work from doing nothing but playing with this camera haha!



Sep 29, 2009 at 07:26 PM
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LCollector wrote:
Dood, you paid full price, there better be ISO info in those darn exifs ! Where did you order it from, btw ?


Haha!!! I don't know why exif data is not showing ISO info. They are all ISO400. Its my goto setting when I'm out shooting.



Sep 29, 2009 at 07:27 PM
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A while back, Conrad mentioned some issues with using PS-CS/ACR to convert RAW files, so I offered to see if it would work on my system. I was able to convert a production 7D .CR2 using CS4 and ACR5.5 with the Beta Profile.

With Conrad's permission, I put up a web page shows the difference between as-shot JPEG and processed RAW (using my 40+ year old eyeballs!) which you can see here.

First image below is for those that like tight crops, and second one is actual pixels slightly sharpened in Photoshop - EXIF in images.








Sep 29, 2009 at 08:05 PM
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p.5 #4 · My 7D came in today...


Conrad,

FWIW, I just converted a sample 7D CR2 file using Adobe's DNG converter 5.5 and it opened up nicely in ACR and then in CS3. Fyi !

Kiran



Sep 29, 2009 at 08:16 PM
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p.5 #5 · My 7D came in today...


Alek Komarnits wrote:
A while back, Conrad mentioned some issues with using PS-CS/ACR to convert RAW files, so I offered to see if it would work on my system. I was able to convert a production 7D .CR2 using CS4 and ACR5.5 with the Beta Profile.

With Conrad's permission, I put up a web page shows the difference between as-shot JPEG and processed RAW (using my 40+ year old eyeballs!) which you can see here.

First image below is for those that like tight crops, and second one is actual pixels slightly sharpened in Photoshop - EXIF in images.

http://www.komar.org/faq/camera/canon-7d-versus-50d/conrad/IMG_6729-crop.jpg

http://www.komar.org/faq/camera/canon-7d-versus-50d/conrad/IMG_6729-actual-pixels.jpg



Good stuff Alek! You can process all my photos from now on.



Sep 29, 2009 at 08:25 PM
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p.5 #6 · My 7D came in today...


kirry007 wrote:
Conrad,

FWIW, I just converted a sample 7D CR2 file using Adobe's DNG converter 5.5 and it opened up nicely in ACR and then in CS3. Fyi !

Kiran


Thanks! I'm working on that now Kiran.



Sep 29, 2009 at 08:26 PM
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I don't know if it's the beta ACR, the body or the processing technique, but those look incredibly noisy for ISO400.


Sep 29, 2009 at 08:28 PM
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Greg Schneider wrote:
I don't know if it's the beta ACR, the body or the processing technique, but those look incredibly noisy for ISO400.


You can download the XMP file from the web page and all I did in Photoshop was apply a Smart Sharpen of 50/1.0/Lens Blur. It would be interesting to have someone do similar touch-ups in DPP (I can't, since I don't have 3.7) and see if a difference in noise.

Remember in the picture above that you are looking at actual pixels, but given that there are 18 million of 'em, the noise "per image" (as Brainiac often reminds us) isn't too shabby if you don't pixel peep.

BTW, Conrad said it would be OK to post links to the full-res versions of the processed image, plus the extracted jpeg from the RAW file, so those are now available if you want to see the entire image.


Conrad Tan wrote:
Good stuff Alek! You can process all my photos from now on.


Thanks Conrad ... there is no "right" answer on what looks "best" when processing photo's, but you certainly provided a nice image to start with.



Sep 29, 2009 at 08:43 PM
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Greg Schneider wrote:
I don't know if it's the beta ACR, the body or the processing technique, but those look incredibly noisy for ISO400.


And if I'm not seeing things, there looks to be some "pattern noise" as well? Strange. Wouldn't expect to see anything like that at ISO 400.



Sep 29, 2009 at 08:49 PM
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My worst fear about the 7D is noise at ISO 400, a setting that I use often. I disliked it on the 50D.


Sep 29, 2009 at 09:08 PM
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p.5 #11 · My 7D came in today...


We can deal with ISO noise. It is an image which is OoF that is unfixable.
If 7D AF is clearly superior to 40/50/5D, that's worth the price of admission in my books.



Sep 29, 2009 at 09:33 PM
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PetKal wrote:
If 7D AF is clearly superior to 40/50/5D, that's worth the price of admission in my books.



I can only smile. We'll see soon, I'd say.

Based on my experience with the 40D, I'd say that the 5D/5D2 is the body to beat in this situation.



Sep 29, 2009 at 09:43 PM
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Alek Komarnits wrote:
A while back, Conrad mentioned some issues with using PS-CS/ACR to convert RAW files, so I offered to see if it would work on my system. I was able to convert a production 7D .CR2 using CS4 and ACR5.5 with the Beta Profile.


Hmmmnnn.... ACR 5.5 Beta Profile. I didn't see that one on their page. I'll have to look. I did send an email to Canon asking when they were going to put DPP 3.7 up on the web.



Sep 29, 2009 at 09:45 PM
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PetKal wrote:
We can deal with ISO noise. It is an image which is OoF that is unfixable.
If 7D AF is clearly superior to 40/50/5D, that's worth the price of admission in my books.


+1



Sep 30, 2009 at 03:21 AM
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p.5 #15 · My 7D came in today...


Looking good Conrad. Look forward to more.

Cheers



Sep 30, 2009 at 07:30 AM
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p.5 #16 · My 7D came in today...


cameron12x wrote:
And if I'm not seeing things, there looks to be some "pattern noise" as well? Strange. Wouldn't expect to see anything like that at ISO 400.


If you are looking at the worm-like patterns that I see, they are most probably JPEG compression artifacts caused by the heavy compression for the web-sized images. I don't think that they are produced by the camera. The compression could also be the source of some of the perceived noise.






Oct 01, 2009 at 03:47 AM
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GeneO wrote:
Looking good Conrad. Look forward to more.

Cheers


Thanks Gene! I got more on the way don't worry.



Oct 01, 2009 at 04:02 AM
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p.5 #18 · My 7D came in today...


Conrad Tan wrote:
+1


+2

Noise is what it is but OOF is untreatable.



Oct 01, 2009 at 04:16 AM
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p.5 #19 · My 7D came in today...


Well I got Photoshop working. Now Lightroom will not import the photos. I have to manually copy the folder to my C drive. What gives?? Grrrr......


Oct 01, 2009 at 04:14 PM
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p.5 #20 · My 7D came in today...


Conrad Tan wrote:
Well I got Photoshop working. Now Lightroom will not import the photos. I have to manually copy the folder to my C drive. What gives?? Grrrr......



If you get the latest version of Lightroom, 7D files are imported correctly.



Oct 01, 2009 at 04:32 PM
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